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Boomboom521

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It was crap from the getgo, and half the nation told you so.
If we work on fixing what's wrong with the Obamacare system instead of being hell bent on erasing his legacy, we might eventually find a workable, effective system of healthcare. Party politics is killing our nation
 

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If we work on fixing what's wrong with the Obamacare system instead of being hell bent on erasing his legacy, we might eventually find a workable, effective system of healthcare. Party politics is killing our nation
Nope, let it stand or fail on its own. Then put through something bi-partisan.
 

dave

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If we work on fixing what's wrong with the Obamacare system instead of being hell bent on erasing his legacy, we might eventually find a workable, effective system of healthcare. Party politics is killing our nation
You cant fix garbage. You toss it out
 

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The GOP is at the fvcking plate, why TF are we still talking about letting it fail on it's own....swing the fvcking bat!
No need. Doing something for sake of doing something is why we're where we are now. Take the time and do it correctly so you don't repeat the same mistake. I swear, you guys would never make it in business.
 

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No need. Doing something for sake of doing something is why we're where we are now. Take the time and do it correctly so you don't repeat the same mistake. I swear, you guys would never make it in business.

We don't need another "We need to pass it to find out what's in it" moment from the GOP. Take the time and get it right.
 

dave

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The GOP is at the fvcking plate, why TF are we still talking about letting it fail on it's own....swing the fvcking bat!
Why? Something had to be passed and your hero gave us this shitbag and you did nothing or said nothing but now you are running your mouth? How bout *** you?
 

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Well, we are seeing that fixing the healthcare problem in this nation isn't so easy is it? Obama gave it a good first house. He got Bin Laden (Bush failed to do so over 6 years). He stopped the economy's hemorrhage (a cut that began to bleed as he took his oath), stabilized the economy, put protections in place to prevent the cut from occurring again and still grew the economy.....I'm sure you could care less about LGBT rights, so let's not go there....but he did more than you would ever give him credit for
LGBTQ (rstuvwxyz) folks deserve the same rights as straight folks.....but no more....damn sick and tired of ANYBODY saying "give me this because I am (fill in the blank)"...and you should be also
 

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Take the time
They've had what, 6 or 7 years to get ready for this moment and it's like someone woke them up and said grab your glove, you're in the game and they're all running around bewildered. They became quite comfortable being the party of no and now it's time to lead and they're still not ready.
 

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They've had what, 6 or 7 years to get ready for this moment and it's like someone woke them up and said grab your glove, you're in the game and they're all running around bewildered. They became quite comfortable being the party of no and now it's time to lead and they're still not ready.

And they were just thrown in the game. It's not like they expected Trump to win.

With the way the press is against the GOP, it is best to let it fail under its own weight, and pick up the pieces. That way the GOP won't be blamed for the Democratic mistakes, only waiting.
 

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And they were just thrown in the game. It's not like they expected Trump to win.

With the way the press is against the GOP, it is best to let it fail under its own weight, and pick up the pieces. That way the GOP won't be blamed for the Democratic mistakes, only waiting.
GOP is in full control, so LEAD THE COUNTRY. Fix what needs to be fixed now while they have the momentum because, like every other presidency, your first two years are the best time to get big projects done. Momentum shifts are inevitable.
 

dave

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GOP is in full control, so LEAD THE COUNTRY. Fix what needs to be fixed now while they have the momentum because, like every other presidency, your first two years are the best time to get big projects done. Momentum shifts are inevitable.
They are fixing it notradomas
 

Boomboom521

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LGBTQ (rstuvwxyz) folks deserve the same rights as straight folks.....but no more....damn sick and tired of ANYBODY saying "give me this because I am (fill in the blank)"...and you should be also
More rights? How about just simple respect as Americans
 

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They've had what, 6 or 7 years to get ready for this moment and it's like someone woke them up and said grab your glove, you're in the game and they're all running around bewildered. They became quite comfortable being the party of no and now it's time to lead and they're still not ready.

Moe ya know ironically you on the Left should be thanking Conservatives for calling out this phony "repeal & replace" bill which has allowed you Statists to attack it!

So it's being fixed now and it's flaws are being pointed out by Conservatives who saw it as only ACA 'lite' which you Leftists are now deadpanning. The dirty little secret moe is the original Republican bill left in place much of Leviathan you on the Left masturbate over.

So you can actually thank Conservatives for putting the breaks on passing another big Government Turkey, and and as other posters in this thread have suggested getting it right so we don't have to serve the American people more of the same foul bird your side originally cooked up.
 
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atlkvb

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More rights? How about just simple respect as Americans

Boom no one 'disrespects' folks who prefer their sex with their own kind or are confused over who they want their sex with. They still have the same rights as any other Americans.

Their perversions are just not praised, promoted, or protected as a cultural deity the way they advocate.
 

atlkvb

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And they were just thrown in the game. It's not like they expected Trump to win.

With the way the press is against the GOP, it is best to let it fail under its own weight, and pick up the pieces. That way the GOP won't be blamed for the Democratic mistakes, only waiting.

I understand the political strategy behind that, but they were elected to first repeal that blob, then put something better in place. I'm for fixing the car and making it run, not just letting it break down. I'm confident a replacement will address the leading drivers of spiraling costs, which once that problem is fixed...solves the other health care delivery issues.

They'll get it right.
 

Boomboom521

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Boom no one 'disrespects' folks who prefer their sex with their own kind or are confused over who they want their sex with. They still have the same rights as any other Americans.

Their perversions are just not praised, promoted, or protected as a cultural deity the way they advocate.
If there is respect in the above post....we need to redefine the word I think. An attitude that surely helps homosexuals feel good about being themselves. But isn't that the best thing about religion.....you get to be right and judgmental all the time.
 

atlkvb

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If there is respect in the above post....we need to redefine the word I think. An attitude that surely helps homosexuals feel good about being themselves. But isn't that the best thing about religion.....you get to be right and judgmental all the time.

No boom I am specifically warned NOT to judge, but to be discerning. As I said, what consenting adults want to do in the Freedom and Privacy of their own homes in their own lives is perfectly fine and perfectly legal. No one is telling them they do not have that right.

But society also has a right to decide if what they choose to do in private is acceptable for the rest of the general population and the culture?

Are you saying we have no right to decide that, or define that?
 

dave

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Bipartisan is good. GOP congress was eager to do a bipartisan bill and give Obama credit were they?
Never had the chance.

I havent seen any democrats talking about helping out here. Funny thing about bipartisanship.
 

atlkvb

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Never had the chance.

I havent seen any democrats talking about helping out here. Funny thing about bipartisanship.

I think the best vote the Republicans made for that dud (ACA) was not giving a yes vote to it. It's all Left, all the time. If at least one Republican had voted for it, the Left would be blaming Republicans too for its abject failure.

Instead, they (Left) own it.
 

Boomboom521

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No boom I am specifically warned NOT to judge, but to be discerning. As I said, what consenting adults want to do in the Freedom and Privacy of their own homes in their own lives is perfectly fine and perfectly legal. No one is telling them they do not have that right.

But society also has a right to decide if what they choose to do in private is acceptable for the rest of the general population and the culture?

Are you saying we have no right to decide that, or define that?
For yourself? Sure. For ANYONE else? No.
 

Boomboom521

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No boom I am specifically warned NOT to judge, but to be discerning. As I said, what consenting adults want to do in the Freedom and Privacy of their own homes in their own lives is perfectly fine and perfectly legal. No one is telling them they do not have that right.

But society also has a right to decide if what they choose to do in private is acceptable for the rest of the general population and the culture?

Are you saying we have no right to decide that, or define that?
And if you are warned not to judge....you need some more reflection.
 

atlkvb

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And if you are warned not to judge....you need some more reflection.

It's not my prerogative boom. It says so right here

Matthew 7:1-6 New International Version (NIV)

7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged ... For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Can't be more clear than that boom my friend.

However it also also specifically instructs us to be discerning (just one verse among many)
Hebrews 5:14
But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.

Very clear to me here too boomer my Man.
 

atlkvb

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For yourself? Sure. For ANYONE else? No.

You're right my friend. I can't decide for everyone else boom, you are 100% correct. However I get to decide for myself...as well as every other individual gets to decide for themselves and then exponentially, the entire society gets to decide.

We get to make that choice boom, as a society. Aren't you "pro choice" boom?
 

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You're right my friend. I can't decide for everyone else boom, you are 100% correct. However I get to decide for myself...as well as every other individual gets to decide for themselves and then exponentially, the entire society gets to decide.

We get to make that choice boom, as a society. Aren't you "pro choice" boom?
Pro-choice, anti-knowitall
 

atlkvb

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For yourself? Sure. For ANYONE else? No.

Let me give you a quick example boomer'cause you are my main Man over on the Left. (I think you are a really cool Dude, and I've told you that)

Some Leftists on this board are really mean, nasty, spiteful specimens (not you of course). Some call me horrible names, crushing my Spirit of good will. I Pray for them, I truly do 'cause I think I'm a nice guy and I really want to help them understand their error.

Do they NOT have the right to decide that I'm everything they claim I am? Every vile, disgusting piece of trash they throw at me they have the right to both say and think don't they boom?

Well, don't other posters also have the right to judge if their insults are correct, fair, and even respectful?

Of course they do! As I also have the right to reject their claims, and return their insults with correctly placed verbiage that refutes not only their bogus insults, but places them where they belong.

My point is boom, we all get to decide who's right and what's wrong. No one "owns" thought, or behavior...except Leftist totalitarian Statists that many of those same folks worship.

So if society either individually or collectively decides that homosexuality is indeed a perversion or deviant, why do you suggest they don't have that right to make that choice decision?

Get it now my Man?
 
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GOP is in full control, so LEAD THE COUNTRY. Fix what needs to be fixed now while they have the momentum because, like every other presidency, your first two years are the best time to get big projects done. Momentum shifts are inevitable.
Our definitions of fixing it aren't the same. You can't "fix it" and still execute the overall plan they want. The existing legislation would not allow them to do what they want to do, you can't break the ACA up like that. It has to either fail or be completely repealed in order to put in place what the party will accept and that is dismantling the Fed control and flowing a lot of it to the states.
 

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GOP is in full control, so LEAD THE COUNTRY. Fix what needs to be fixed now while they have the momentum because, like every other presidency, your first two years are the best time to get big projects done. Momentum shifts are inevitable.
Our definitions of fixing it aren't the same. You can't "fix it" and still execute the overall plan they want. The existing legislation would not allow them to do what they want to do, you can't break the ACA up like that. It has to either fail or be completely repealed in order to put in place what the party will accept and that is dismantling the Fed control and flowing a lot of it to the states.
 

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For yourself? Sure. For ANYONE else? No.
By your logic, and only using your logic, then you need to respect the beliefs and behavior of racists as well. They are Americans and entitled to their belief system and their actions, according to your logic.
 

atlkvb

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By your logic, and only using your logic, then you need to respect the beliefs and behavior of racists as well. They are Americans and entitled to their belief system and their actions, according to your logic.

Is this for me DvlDog4WVU?

(hope not)

Using my logic, we as a society have decided that Racists are pigs. (correctly adjudicated I might add)
 

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You're right my friend. I can't decide for everyone else boom, you are 100% correct. However I get to decide for myself...as well as every other individual gets to decide for themselves and then exponentially, the entire society gets to decide.

We get to make that choice boom, as a society. Aren't you "pro choice" boom?
Pro-choice anti-
By your logic, and only using your logic, then you need to respect the beliefs and behavior of racists as well. They are Americans and entitled to their belief system and their actions, according to your logic.
as long as it stays in their heads and homes....I don't give a flippin **** what someone wants to believe. Racism seeks a stratification of society based on race, that's not American, and it doesn't promote freedom. As long as it isn't implemented in practice in open society, one is free to think whatever they choose. I'd even go as far to say that a company has the right to not hire based on race (as long as the practice is declared openly by the PRIVATE owners).