Singleton said that he has know where he wants to go for about a month now.

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He still wants to keep it a secret until the Army Bowl.

One other thing is that Ole Miss is trying to get him with their Juco transfer QB as a selling point and not even really mentioning Stanley. Is that Juco player that good? Stanley looked pretty good earlier this season when he was getting a few snaps.
 

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He still wants to keep it a secret until the Army Bowl.

One other thing is that Ole Miss is trying to get him with their Juco transfer QB as a selling point and not even really mentioning Stanley. Is that Juco player that good? Stanley looked pretty good earlier this season when he was getting a few snaps.
 
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Ole Miss may beat us this year. Just reality, and that's how it is in the Egg Bowl. But I'm not worried about them in recruiting against us or anything they may have in the immediate future. Their high rankings the last two years have proven to be nothing, with alot of the players not even playing football for them anymore....while the results on the field speak for themselves: defense is ****, offense is Masoli. A couple of senior receivers. Don't see how anybody could be excited about what's happening up there.

Singleton is coming to State. Pretty obvious, especially with the Brassell commitment. We are only going to get better, we are replacing our seniors with equally or better talented players.
 

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Joe Price than Brassell. Tobias and Joe are allegedly best friends.

They all know each other, though.
 

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What does getting a guy that was a Heisman darkhorse last year have to do with Mackey's abilities?

You do realize that Mackey showed up in August, right? We all know that, in most cases (with Cam Newton not being one of those cases), it takes a JUCO several games before they can get adjusted to the speed of the SEC. And if it wasn't hard enough, add to the fact that he's a JUCO QB, which is even tougher in most instances.

Add to all of this the fact that he has a slight speech impediment (stuttering) that is and has been worked on. He has also never taken snaps under center (shotgun in HS, shotgun at JUCO).

The kid was an All-American in HS and would've been highly recruited if he had a chance in hell of qualifying (he had zero chance). He was a two-time All-American in JUCO and led the nation in passing, completion percentage, and pass efficiency last year (yes, the same year Cam Newton played in JUCO). He has won at every single level he has played in (38-0 in the highest classification of LA football, 19-3 in two years at EMCC which hadn't been to the playoffs in a few years before, yet went to the playoffs back-to-back for the first time in school history while he was QB).

The kid may amount to nothing, and I know there is a long line of JUCO QBs who haven't done ****. But to say that going after Masoli shows that Mackey isn't very good is just plain stupidity. Ole Miss had 2 scholarship QBs on campus, one being a JUCO transfer that arrived in August and the other being a kid with something like 5 career passes. If you know you can get a guy with the talent of Masoli, and you have this QB situation, why the hell wouldn't you?

By the way, Mackey will most likely be the starter next year.

If you have anything that points to the contrary, by all means, show it.
 

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We are only going to get better, we are replacing our seniors with equally or better talented players.
We're having to replace our entire LB lineup, including White and Wright. Who is equally talented or better than these guys? Is there someone equally as talented as Sherrod and Brignone? Big Pern?
 

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You do realize that there is a stark difference between being qualified for JUCO football and NCAA football, right? You can qualify for JUCO football by getting your GED or just graduating HS.
 

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clone. I agree with you that Mackey could be a great qb, but the odds are against it. His short stature and the fact that he was used exclusivelyin the shotgun through his Juco yearsdoes not improve the odds of him being productive at UM. Omar Conner never seemed to get comfortable with taking snaps under center and Tyson Lee was a JUCO All American also. I am not saying that he won't be a great player, but the odds are against him. I am sure that Brassell and company also realize that he only has two years to play. Tyler will have three years of elgibility remaining, small difference I know, just pointing out a few things.
 

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is plain stupidity.

Nobody will know how the kid is going to play at this level until it happens. He could be the next Spurlock/Schaeffer/Lane QB at Ole Miss that sucks *** after whipping *** at every other level, but Todd's thought process is pure stupidity.

Oh, and as for Brassell, I'll be really, really surprised if the kid plays much, if any, WR at the college level. He has the ability to be a really, really good CB or S.
 

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If you have a guy that is good enough to be your starting QB, whether that be from a JUCO, high school, etc., why would your school have to go all out to get Masoli, a guy with a LOT of baggage and a move that was a huge PR nightmare for a shot at the Birmingham Bowl?

And you do realize that Nathan Stanley has taken more snaps than Mackey, right? If Mackey is that good, why hasn't he played?

This really isn't that hard.

You don't have a guy good enough, so you went out and got one.
 

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I should have specified that he qualified for a university from JUCO. Thought that would go without saying after you pointed out that he couldn't qualify out of high school (for a four year university).

You do realize that you still have to make good grades while in JUCO to move on to universities, right?

You do realize that OM is about the equivalent of John Calipiari when it comes to getting people qualified that don't make the grades (Jerrell "Hit the books" Powe, Chris Strong, Darius Barksdale - before he was kicked out - to name a few).
 

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Nathan Stanley was named the starter, not Mackey. I think that says something.

I also don't believe Nutt would have gone through the huge PR hit he and Ole Misstook to bring in Masoli if he felt really good about Mackey. But you being an Ole Miss fan, I understand your hopeful optimism in promoting Mackey.
 

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Columbus Dawg said:
Nathan Stanley was named the starter, not Mackey. I think that says something.

I also don't believe Nutt would have gone through the huge PR hit he and Ole Misstook to bring in Masoli if he felt really good about Mackey. But you being an Ole Miss fan, I understand your hopeful optimism in promoting Mackey.


Spurlock will be better than Eli*.


*At wide receiver.
 

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The first time Masoli inquired about the transfer he was told we didn't have any interest. The interest only occured when a redshirt freshman decided it was better for him to go play on the 3rd team at USA than to stay at Ole Miss. At that point, the QB depth chart was reduced to two. Then all the other Masoli mess ensued.

In regards to Stanley, you do realize that Masoli didn't even play until the 2nd quarter in the first game behind...you guessed it, Stanley. And Mackey hasn't played a snap this year because, as long as Masoli is available, he can redshirt and save a year of eligibility. Why would Mackey need to play this year if Masoli is fine and waste one of his two years of eligibility?

Masoli was purued before Mackey ever had a part of any official practice. The only thing Mackey had been a part of was offseason conditioning.

Like I said, the guy may suck, but to proclaim that Masoli was pursued because both of our QBs suck, while we only have two on scholarship, is just stupid logic at this point in time. It doesn't make sense considering everything else in the situation.
 

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about getting him qualified from JUCO. He reported to EMCC in the summer and took a summer semester full of classes to get a head start.

What point are you making about Mackey and his JUCO? Are you claiming that he couldn't have possibly passed JUCO, and therefore his grades must be fake?

Or are you suggesting that signing a kid out of JUCO is some roundabout way to skirt the NCAA Eligibility Rules on players?


Powe and Barksdale's situations aren't remotely similar to Mackey. Mackey never went to a post-grad school and Powe and Barksdale never went to a JUCO.
 

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Columbus Dawg said:
Nathan Stanley was named the starter, not Mackey. I think that says something

It says that Mackey had exactly zero practices at that time at Ole Miss.
 

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Just as the Masoli mess got started. What a lucky stroke of sheer coincidence.

I like how you took the comparison of players gaining eligibility to get into OM as literally comparing the paths they took. Also, i was not aware that Powe did not attend JUCO. I know he reads at about a 4th grade level though, and he probably needed to hit up a JUCO before a four-year university.

I can hear him now...
"why are there so many - what do you call these again, coach?
"Those are commas, Jerrell."
"Well, why are they?"

And as far as Mackey getting into OM after not coming close to qualifying because he "didn't apply himself" in high school. I'm not claiming anything, he's there now - regardless of how he got there. And as they say, the rest is history. No point arguing.

You're obviously justifying reasons you picked up Masoli and getting frustrated that your coach's hypocritical move to simply pick up another quarterback is backfiring. The OM players aren't rallied around Jeremiah, he's just kinda there. It's the OM Black Bears AND Jeremiah Masoli.

Your record is now 3-5 (1-4) with the one OOC loss obviously being to JACKSONVILLE STATE, so that kinda hurts, but I'm sure OM will be back in no time. I know recruits are watering at the mouth thinking about sporting those stylish and intimidating grey jerseys.

Y'all need to keep your heads up at the little brother university of MS.
 

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Then I have some **** i need to sell you for a great price. Just because it came out that in the media in that order sure as hell don't mean it happened in that order. No one but a person that hangs on to Fancy Porter's every word as gospel really believes that.
 
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