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tatedog

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It's beyond shocking to me that anyone could look at our defense from this past season and say "we want that."
 

RightOfCenter

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Wow. I would have liked to be a fly on the wall at that interview. "Mr.Sirmon. How many times did AL and ARK have to run the same scoring RUN play before you felt the need to scheme to stop it?"
 

tatedog

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"We are looking for a guy who can get our offense back on the field quick, and your name came up in a Google search..."
 

dawgphd

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Wow. I would have liked to be a fly on the wall at that interview. "Mr.Sirmon. How many times did AL and ARK have to run the same scoring RUN play before you felt the need to scheme to stop it?"

So channeling my inner Star Trek geekdom - isn't that Sirmon's Kobayashi Maru question?
 

Shamoan

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coach66

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You would think Mullen already had a plan since he told Sirmon to look around

but you never know.
 

T-TownDawgg

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Nate Woody, if he wants it. His defenses were undersized, but they made up for it with great fundamentals and great effort.
 

RightOfCenter

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Whoever it is, I hope they turn our players into something a little less nasty than Grayson Allen. If he can, we would have a solid D.
 

engie

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Diaco was a Broyles finalist in 2011 and won it in 2012 at ND. His actual stats aren't as impressive at first glance though.
 

Shamoan

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that is what im thinking. dan isnt stupid. sirmon was a major liability to dan's success.


the 3-4 can work, but the 4-3 is old reliable and will work NOW, not take a few years of recruiting.
 

engie

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Prettymuch all of our JUCO guys in the trenches were brought for the 3-4. We're 2 years down the rabbit hole now.
 

philduckworth

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Prettymuch all of our JUCO guys in the trenches were brought for the 3-4. We're 2 years down the rabbit hole now.

Lee Autry is probably better suited as a NT, but I see no reason why Sweat couldn't play WDE in a 4-3 or why Rivers couldn't play SDE in a 4-3. Pope can play DT. If I'm Mullen, I'm going after the best DC I can find regardless of scheme.
 

DawgatAuburn

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Sadly, that's what I was thinking when people started throwing out names. Prepare to be disappointed in the hire.
 
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Pro Tip: If you've heard of him, we ain't getting him.

Yep. It won't be anyone we pick. They won't offer enough money.

Which is something that would pick our program up in a hurry with the A-Train/Fitz here now and Thompson/Hill incoming. IF we could make a home run DC hire, we could be in the mix soon.
 

BiscuitEater

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Prettymuch all of our JUCO guys in the trenches were brought for the 3-4. We're 2 years down the rabbit hole now.

Correction .. We are ONE year down the 3-4 'xperiment'

Meanwhile .. 1) we didn't have the personnel to run the 3-4 this year .. and it showed. 2) 3-4 is 'supposedly' better at stopping the spread BUT relies 'more' on LBs to make the stops (Richie Brown, standout LB in the 4-3, suddenly became 'pedestrian' in the 3-4) 3) 'Most' defensive coaches will tell you that it is easier to teach, learn (and run) the 4-3 than the 3-4.

I'm think that we are better suited for the 4-3. After AJ Jefferson was injured/slowed, we totally lacked ANY discernible pass rush .. forcing our DBs to 'try' and cover receivers for way too long.

We were NOT able to stop most teams this year. I thought that the OM game was a 'watershed' moment BUT the St Petersburg Bowl proved otherwise.

Bottom Line .. I won't lose any sleep 'if' Sirmon leaves.
 

engie

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No one successfully runs a 3-4 in year one. If it didn't happen at Georgia and Bama -- it's unreasonable to expect it at Mississippi State. Going 3-4 was always going to be a long-term play, otherwise it was stupid of Mullen to try it with a west coast guy that was never staying long-term rather than just sticking with what we had been doing. We can question it all we want(I did at the time) -- but once it's off and running, you almost have to stick with it. I think we start to see the fruits of it this year as our projected front 7 start to fit the mold a lot more.

We have basically recruited for it twice now. Hence two years down the rabbit hole.
 

BiscuitEater

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We have basically recruited for it twice now. Hence two years down the rabbit hole.

BS .. Sirmon was hired middle of Jan last year. Barely set foot on campus till spring training. Recruiting, if you can call it that, was DONE by the time he was even hired .. much less, made a token appearance at State.

Name a single player we recruited and got because we were going to the 3-4. I'll hang up and listen.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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Who's the S&C coach? Savage? Yeah, take him too. And take our the jerseys that fit like belly shirts too. Thanks.
 

Vice

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When is the next coaching convention? Probably February or March? That's where Dan will go find some guy no one has ever heard of.
 

Vice

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I guarantee you that Dan told Sirmon that if he was going to leave, it HAS to be before the coaches convention. So he can send someone there to lock down our next DC. I'd love to know how that process works. I'll bet Dan sends Gonzales and Hev there to each collect 10 resumes each. Then Dan will sit down and check out the resumes and pick someone. It's gotta be the right fit too. Someone that will be submissive and allow Dan to basically run the defense.

It's so bizarre how we cannot hang on to a DC for more than 2 seasons.
 

BiscuitEater

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When is the next coaching convention? Probably February or March? That's where Dan will go find some guy no one has ever heard of.

Actually, it was last week, Jan 8 - 11. MSU had a couple of coaches that 'participated.'

Sun, first night, during the Buzz Sessions, Maurice Linguist, Mississippi State University, spoke on DBs from 7:00PM 7:50PM and again .. On Discipline & Accountability (Linquist is on the Hog's short list to hire)

Mon, Brian Johnson, Mississippi State University, was a Panelists on: Graduate Assistants/Career Forum (Johnson has actually already departed MSU)

We should have had Hevesy and Sirmon speaking!
 

Shamoan

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mullen should be banned from attending after the sirmon hire. im glad they "clicked" over shoes and t-ball, but that is how we end up like we did.
 
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