Six reasons Auburn will cruise past MSU in week 2
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Leak was not that special. Russell is still a bit of an unknown, but I can see him comoerabke to Leak. To imply they aren't in the same league is ridiculous.
Terrible read. That guy was obviously given a headline and instructed to write something for it.
Terrible read. That guy was obviously given a headline and instructed to write something for it.
Even though the last couple of losses could be chalked to up to one or two mistakes at critical points in the game, they've pretty much had our number. When you play teams really close and still win time after time it does leave you with, shall I say, a sense of entitlement. Furthermore, call it what you will; luck, talent, hard work, destiny, selling your soul, etc...but I have never seen a team get as many breaks as Awbun does on the field. Maybe it's just me and my complete disdain for the war 17ing chickens that makes it seem this way, but it seems like the ball almost always bounces their way. The only point that I sort of agree with the writer of this article on is that their defense could wreak havoc (the writer says will wreak havoc) on our offensive line. I think we evenly match or over match them in every other area. I'll be watching the Clemson-Awbun game with great interest. Anyway, I hope we beat them so bad that they'll believe they haven't won a game against us in the last 20 years. (Does that sound too angry?)We'll find out soon enough, though.<div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">Most of the reasons he gave are the same things I've been telling myself for why this game will be extremely tough. He swung and missed when he mentioned "inexperienced safeties" because it looks like we will have Broomfield and Whitley back there. I really hope hope we keep Dak on the sideline for this game because I don't see our O line creating enough push to make his package successful.</div>
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not named Ole Miss we should have some confidence in playing. At least, other than 2009, we have played them extremely close even in losses. I mean in 2007 we won, 2008 we lost by 1, 2010 we lost by 3 and last year we lost by 7. We haven't played ANY other West teams (not named Ole Miss) anywhere near that close consistently. Given the game is in Starkville this year and the fact that Auburn has so many question marks on offense, I think we finally get over the hump with them this year barring us turning the ball over a bunch.
The problem with the article is that the basis for his argument relies on 3 enormous incorrect assumption. 1. The author is assuming they will beat a very good Clemson team. That game could go either way, but half his points in the article have to do with the confidence they will gain from winning that game. 2. The author assumes we will be using a 2 QB system which couldn't be further from the truth of what a true 2 QB system. Will Dak get some playing time against JSU? Yes, but he ain't splitting snaps with Russell. He is a situational QB and a back up. 3. The author further assumes that the loss of Cox and Brandon Wilson will cause major problems for our team without the slightest clue of the fact that those 2 positions are the deepest on the team and that we are actually more talented at both those positions than we were a year ago. I am guessing he will know that Autry guys name after this one.
Article sucks because the author is uninformed and makes many incorrect assumptions that all happen to go Auburn's way.
Article sucks because the author is uninformed and makes many incorrect assumptions that all happen to go Auburn's way.
trumaroon said:
If you dont play Dak and just let those DE's rush Tyler all day, he will end up getting sacked 6-7 times. We need to push on those DE's with our size and make them work instead of just letting them speed rush our OT's. WE have all that size upfront for a reason and we need to use it
Chris Leak - 5'11 206lb undrafted free agent into the NFL
Junior Season Stats
235cmp 374att 62.8% 2639yds 20td 6int 136.5pass rating
Tyler Russell - 6'4 220lb projects as a 4th-6th rd draft pick @ CBS' NFLdraftscout.com
2012 Rotowire Proj.(pre bowl game)
250cmp 402att 62.2% 3015yds 23td 13int
Russell's career pass rating is about 138.5 and will likely improve this year.
http://www.cbssports.com/...prospectrankings/2014/QB
http://news.rotowire.com/...tball/player.htm?ID=8371
Of course, I'm sure you know more about football than CBS and Matt Berry***
Junior Season Stats
235cmp 374att 62.8% 2639yds 20td 6int 136.5pass rating
Tyler Russell - 6'4 220lb projects as a 4th-6th rd draft pick @ CBS' NFLdraftscout.com
2012 Rotowire Proj.(pre bowl game)
250cmp 402att 62.2% 3015yds 23td 13int
Russell's career pass rating is about 138.5 and will likely improve this year.
http://www.cbssports.com/...prospectrankings/2014/QB
http://news.rotowire.com/...tball/player.htm?ID=8371
Of course, I'm sure you know more about football than CBS and Matt Berry***
but he does bring up a good point about Auburn's D Line and our problems at O line last year (mostly because of injuries and lack of depth). Auburn returns all 4 starters on their D line inlcuding all SEC Lemoinier(?) - and 9 off 11 starters from last year. Granted, its a new D coordinator they have and they were salty last year on D but I am worried how our O line will hold up rushing and protecting Russell.
I expect this game will be another 17-14 type game as it was 2 years ago . It will be extremely close and Iwill definitely not be claming an early victory or declaring an early loss. It will come down to who catches a couple of breaks in the game.
I expect this game will be another 17-14 type game as it was 2 years ago . It will be extremely close and Iwill definitely not be claming an early victory or declaring an early loss. It will come down to who catches a couple of breaks in the game.
1. He assumes there is no way Clemson will beat them, and while not having their starting QB will make it tougher, Clemson is going to be pretty good. Plus they have all of August to get their back-up ready to play.
2. The advantage of playing a good team to open does in fact give you some growth- but it can also show the next week's opponent your holes and problems for them to also exploit like the week 1 opponent did.
3, Auburn cant afford to hide anything in week 1 going against Clemson, they have to let it all hang out to win. WE dont have to do that vs J-State. We should have a couple of surprises for them, they dont have that luxury.
4, He fails to mention Frazier will be going against one of the nation's top defenses in Starkville, on the road for the 2nd straight week, in a tough environment.
5. He fails to mention Auburn's OL problems and how they might be starting a true freshmen at guard
I could list about 5-6 more, but I'll stop there for now
2. The advantage of playing a good team to open does in fact give you some growth- but it can also show the next week's opponent your holes and problems for them to also exploit like the week 1 opponent did.
3, Auburn cant afford to hide anything in week 1 going against Clemson, they have to let it all hang out to win. WE dont have to do that vs J-State. We should have a couple of surprises for them, they dont have that luxury.
4, He fails to mention Frazier will be going against one of the nation's top defenses in Starkville, on the road for the 2nd straight week, in a tough environment.
5. He fails to mention Auburn's OL problems and how they might be starting a true freshmen at guard
I could list about 5-6 more, but I'll stop there for now
And also the completely baseless assumption that Frazier is going to have a breakout game against us. Maybe he will, but there is nothing right now to indicate that he can complete passes against anyone much less against a SEC team with lots of talent in the secondary. He didn't throw it much last year because he couldn't grasp the offense...Wasn't he supposed to know the Malzahn offense because he ran it in HS? Now he is going to be able to switch to a pro-style and grasp it in year one? It's more likely that he won't be able to throw it consistently making it easier for us to stop their "stable" of 5-10 200 running backs.<div>shotgunDawg said:
</div><div>And another thing...AU has big problems at Linebacker. Any informed Auburn fan will tell you that Jake Holland sucks. Darren Bates is average at best and they have no clue who their other LB will be.</div><div>
</div><div>We might lose because we turn the ball over and/or crap the bed on special teams (see last year), but I just don't see Auburn winning otherwise based on the match-ups.
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They return their entire defense.... a defense that we ran ALL over last year in the option game to the tune of 333yds rushing(198yd passing). They've already proven they have NO answer for the option, and I fully expect us to use Dak to expose them in several different key series in that game...
Salty? They gave up the following on defense last year
Utah State: 448yds
MSU: 531yds
Clemson: 624yds
Fl Atl: 307yds
SC: 289yds
Ark: 438yds
Fla: 194yds (only good game)
LSU: 393yds
Tsun: 382yds
Georgia: 528yds
Samford (NOT STANFORD): 338yds
Bama:397yds
Virginia: 435yds
If that's "salty" idk what is "sugar". That's terrible!
Utah State: 448yds
MSU: 531yds
Clemson: 624yds
Fl Atl: 307yds
SC: 289yds
Ark: 438yds
Fla: 194yds (only good game)
LSU: 393yds
Tsun: 382yds
Georgia: 528yds
Samford (NOT STANFORD): 338yds
Bama:397yds
Virginia: 435yds
If that's "salty" idk what is "sugar". That's terrible!
sorry..wrong term . should have said "swiss cheese" instead of salty.
Granted, they will be better this year and outside of Bama and LSU I think they may be the best defense we face. It will be an early test for our offensive line to produce running lanes as well as hold up the pocket for Russell to throw. I 17in hate Auburn and want to beat them as bad as anyone we play this year. Dont get me wrong. I just dont see this being a high scoring contest and think it will be a similar type game as the South Carolina game last year with us hopefully on the winning end.
Granted, they will be better this year and outside of Bama and LSU I think they may be the best defense we face. It will be an early test for our offensive line to produce running lanes as well as hold up the pocket for Russell to throw. I 17in hate Auburn and want to beat them as bad as anyone we play this year. Dont get me wrong. I just dont see this being a high scoring contest and think it will be a similar type game as the South Carolina game last year with us hopefully on the winning end.
It really shouldn't be mistaken for reporting. They are really all about telling targeted audiences what they want to hear. Targeted audiences being teams with a very large national following. Awbun is very vulnerable this year, but I highly doubt you'll see an article titled "6 Reasons Mississippi State Will Cruise to a Victory Against Auburn" on Bleacher Report. I like our chances against the tigger war chickens this year.
but let's face it, our OL didn't just look terrible against anyone not named Alabama or LSU. We played tight games and moved the ball vs. Auburn and South Carolina, who are similar teams. I also hate seeing Emory Blake and Onterrio McCalebb, but I think we can contain those guys this year without Malzahn.
Would u not agree that our defensive line is an elite D line in this conference our 2 deep is as good as most in the nation. Now imagine going against that same "elite" level D line day in & day out. It can only make you (as an O linemen) better prepared for facing other elite defensive lines. Auburn's defensive line isn't as good as ours. And I hate to quote C34 from his show but we lost 3 starting O linemen in 9qtrs of football last yr & replaced them w/ talent that was too young & inexperienced. Our offensive line will be better suited in this yr IF that happens again.
However, I do think we could struggle defending the pass, and I think Auburn will beat us to the outside with McCalebb. Hopefully we will prepare for that. Auburn will be the better prepared team because of their 1st week competition. As I've said before, we have no business playing a SWAC school. Absolutely none! Sunbelt teams dominate the swac. This is a detriment going into week 2 against a talented SEC opponent.
I don't know if Aub wins their first game, but I do know that we are tougher then Clemson. Plus we are at home and Aub is a monkey that Dan desperately needs off his back. I look for Autry to help us, I look for our rb's to open the passing game, I look for a stronger will to win by our team. We have to win this game, imo!
I don't know if Aub wins their first game, but I do know that we are tougher then Clemson. Plus we are at home and Aub is a monkey that Dan desperately needs off his back. I look for Autry to help us, I look for our rb's to open the passing game, I look for a stronger will to win by our team. We have to win this game, imo!
engie said:
I know Eli Manning has programmed you bears to think NFL prospects have some kind of relevance in college football. But you're wrong.
I find it just as puzzling that you've found Russell's 2012 stats.
Yeah...there's really no reason for me to debate someone that can invent facts on the fly.
<div style="text-align: center;">Wait a minute, did that dumbass just say Brandon Wilson was key to our run defense last year? I honestly have no response. </div>
I am just curious for your reasoning as to why we will struggle defending the pass? We have the best corner is college football, an experienced CB on the other side, experienced hard hitting safety, and a d-line w Autry that should be able to get consistent pressure on the QB. What am I missing here? Is there something else we need to be able to defend Auburn's mediocre at best passing game?
And stopped there. Bleacher report is literally user articles. You don't need any credentials to write an article for them.
....but the above statement is ludicrous. It's all about how the first came comes out. They played Utah State last year, and I might add they were pretty fired up and played very well vs. us in the week after. That preparation stuff is bullcrap. What it allows for us, is that we can focus some preseason attention on Auburn and not shoot our wad in Week One. And yes, Auburn is a must-win. <div>Palos Verdes said:
</div><div>Emory Blake and McCalebb will get their touches, and they'll do good things, just like they have the last few years. But the offense will be down due to Malzahn leaving - in other words, it won't cost us the game.
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We're going to struggle defending the pass, against a qb that is CAREER 5-12 for 34yds with 2int?
Against a newly pro-style offense that ranked 105 of 120 last year in pass ypg in the Malzahn spread?
Against a new OC that is in his second CAREER season as an OC, after being Mullen's QB coach at Florida?
How are they going to have time to pass, with Autry going up against a rsFR lt backed up by a true fr...part of an OL unit with 1 senior, 2 sophs, and 2 rsFR, one of the youngest and most inexperienced in the SEC?
I have no doubts their defense will be improved and their DL will be nasty. Their RB's and special teams will be a strength as well. Literally everything else for them is a questionmark...
Against a newly pro-style offense that ranked 105 of 120 last year in pass ypg in the Malzahn spread?
Against a new OC that is in his second CAREER season as an OC, after being Mullen's QB coach at Florida?
How are they going to have time to pass, with Autry going up against a rsFR lt backed up by a true fr...part of an OL unit with 1 senior, 2 sophs, and 2 rsFR, one of the youngest and most inexperienced in the SEC?
I have no doubts their defense will be improved and their DL will be nasty. Their RB's and special teams will be a strength as well. Literally everything else for them is a questionmark...
one and we playateam that couldn't beatsome of the junior colleges in this state. I am sayingthe comparisonshould account for something, that's all.I like cupcakeson the schedule, but thinkthe swac is unnecessary. Btw, Utah St. was a decent team last year. I watched them and they have a2 star rb thatcould play in the SEC. They almostbeat Auburn and beat BYU on the field only to have their game stolen awaybyatrumped upcall.
Concerningour pass D,I know we have talented db s butwe always seem vulnerable here.The Arky game last year was painful to watch.We allowed too much timelast year, butI do like Autry'stenacity and hope he can causesome seriousproblems.
Lastly,Auburn is a must win.
Concerningour pass D,I know we have talented db s butwe always seem vulnerable here.The Arky game last year was painful to watch.We allowed too much timelast year, butI do like Autry'stenacity and hope he can causesome seriousproblems.
Lastly,Auburn is a must win.