No we WOULDN'T have won without mintz and we WOULDN'T have won if Murphy was small 1a!!!! But we DID win so get over it!!! And I'll tell you like I told knight, I never knew unz were good till I got in high school cause we slapped unz in tha mouth all tha time to!! Smith, wildcat, panther, parker, husky, Taylor, tisio, squirrel, sain,gronewald, crow and I could keep on if you'd like!!! No unz would be perfectly fine without our kids down there, unz would win all tha champions there was to win without our kids!!! And stop with tha, there "maroon devils" we don't think of them any different then what we think about our own kids!!! Well there's a couple needin help, come help them if there yours!! All of em needs work to support there families, give them a job!! We know what unz think about us because your kids don't have enough since not to say, stupid Indians!!! And please don't start with tha me bein racist thing cause a have a couple real good white friends and do make friends with some, guess you can call me "civilized"!! Hahaha!!! What a joke!!!