I was excited all week for this game. I show up to see a stadium full of orange. If you sold your tickets to TN fans then you are the problem. If you need money that bad then don’t buy tickets ever again.
So… The visiting fan situation
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I’m sure you have a perfect 100% attendance record and have never had to watch a game on TV because you couldn’t make it to town for family obligations.
I wasn't at the game. My brother in law, who is a big OM homer, was watching the game with me....."whole lot of orange in those seats" it was very embarrassing seeing that on TV
No one wants to attend games. It’s not just a facility problem. 10-15 years ago if I had a couple of extra tickets, I could post on FB and they’d be sold to state fans in a few hours. Last 5 years I haven’t been able to give them away. I tried to get some of my old crew together to tailgate yesterday… no luck. Not a single person out of 6-7 guys wanted to come to the game. Our fanbase simply isn’t what it was 10 years ago. We’ve basically lost everyone except for us diehards and it’ll be that way until we string together a couple of good seasons
There’s ideas being tossed around with the east upper deck too like if you buy upper east season tickets you get free fountain drinks, popcorn and hotdogs. They’re trying to think outside the box without building another trailer park in the sky.
I have been sitting in section 21 for a long time. I saw another poster state that the faculty paid a premium this year for these seats and that is true. We had a lot of orange in the section yesterday. Whether this is people selling tickets on the secondary market or simply open seats that are available- I don't really know.
Our problem is that the fanbase really just doesn't care about football. Yes we show up (sort of) when we win but we really aren't invested like other fanbases. South Carolina has 80k show up to every home game whether good or bad. Even when we are good, and playing a good team, we are lucky to have 48k in the stadium. ASU was the biggest game in several years. At home playing a team that made the playoff last year, and there were MAYBE 50k people there.
Our fans put an emphasis on baseball. There are no excuses for baseball... Hot/cold, hotels, easy to watch on TV, it doesn't matter- People show up. In my opinion that's always been the problem. It's just a culture issue We fail to see the big picture that football is what matters no matter if you like it or not. Having a good football program funds the rest of the athletic department. Baseball doesn't even make a profit. Until we switch the emphasis to football being #1 we are constantly going to have this issue. I think changing the mindset is way easier said than done though.
Our problem is that the fanbase really just doesn't care about football. Yes we show up (sort of) when we win but we really aren't invested like other fanbases. South Carolina has 80k show up to every home game whether good or bad. Even when we are good, and playing a good team, we are lucky to have 48k in the stadium. ASU was the biggest game in several years. At home playing a team that made the playoff last year, and there were MAYBE 50k people there.
Our fans put an emphasis on baseball. There are no excuses for baseball... Hot/cold, hotels, easy to watch on TV, it doesn't matter- People show up. In my opinion that's always been the problem. It's just a culture issue We fail to see the big picture that football is what matters no matter if you like it or not. Having a good football program funds the rest of the athletic department. Baseball doesn't even make a profit. Until we switch the emphasis to football being #1 we are constantly going to have this issue. I think changing the mindset is way easier said than done though.
This is why we need chair back seats, cut out 10% of the capacity in the process
(I know, they won’t fit)
(I know, they won’t fit)
This is a major issue imo. I blame cohen for most of this. We have to show commitment to football from our fanbase if we want to be successful in the SEC
Do State fans put an emphasis on baseball? Or is it all the same fans that show up for both?
Because 10k at a baseball game is awesome. 10k at a football game no so much.
Also the athletic budget for football is many times larger than baseball.
Because 10k at a baseball game is awesome. 10k at a football game no so much.
Also the athletic budget for football is many times larger than baseball.
20 year member of the east side upper deck club. I don’t sit there because it’s cheap, I sit there because I can see the entire field and see every play unfold, good or bad. I tried the lower bowl on the west side, too many bad angles and felt like I was 100 yards from the field.
Yes, there were too many orange fans all around me but I am used to it. Just the price we pay for not enough season ticket sales.
But, if you know the game is a sellout and you know it will be 85 degrees and you know it will be direct sunshine for 3 plus hours, why do concessions run out of water??!! Bad look all around for the home crowd as well as the invaders. (Also heard they ran out of beer)
Yes, there were too many orange fans all around me but I am used to it. Just the price we pay for not enough season ticket sales.
But, if you know the game is a sellout and you know it will be 85 degrees and you know it will be direct sunshine for 3 plus hours, why do concessions run out of water??!! Bad look all around for the home crowd as well as the invaders. (Also heard they ran out of beer)
It’s the socio economics of the local area more than anything. It always has been. That’s just fact.
I know a family like this. They will not miss a weekend baseball series home or away and will attend a football game once a decade. They were there yesterday though. Wearing orange.
At the 96 SEC basketball tourney we sat next to some nice folks from Kentucky. When I asked the gentleman if they made many games at Rupp he responded they had never been inside Rupp and the only way they could see Kentucky play in person was to travel. I would bet there were ton of "sidewalk" UT fans there yesterday for the same reason.
We have the cheapest season tickets in the SEC minus Vandy. Our fans are an issue and yesterday was embarassing. The excuses are laughable. Somehow, Tennessee fans managed to tough it out in the sun. There were thousands of unsold tickets a couple of weeks ago and almost all of them were bought by Tennessee fans, so “they bought them all preseason on the open market” doesn’t excuse how many we let them cram in there.
I think the problem will fix itself once we get a product on the field that we KNOW will be competitive and exciting to watch week in and week out and every season. There are still questions and holes surrounding the program. I've talked to fans since last night and they are still gunshy about the direction of the program with very little hope against TAMU next week. I mean, look at UMiss. They KNOW what they've got and they KNOW they've got the players and coaches that will compete. I can remember when they weren't packing their stands either.
A lot of faculty graduated at other universities too. They’ll ring the cowbells til their home team visits.
We have thousands of State alumni that live within a 3 hour radius of Starkville that make plenty of money to attend 4-5 football games a year
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I can’t believe that faculty and staff have so many seats to sell to the opposing team**
I can’t believe that faculty and staff have so many seats to sell to the opposing team**
Three hours is a bit much for every game fans. That’s six hours of DRIVING. Minimum time at the game is 5 hours. You are talking 11 hours minimum. That’s the entire day. The young folks that have the energy to do that week in and week out are going to be dealing with kids and all they do for 18 years minimum. Your every game base, for the bad times as well as the good is 2 hours at the most, realistically it’s less. MSU has always relied on people that just buy tickets to support the athletic department to sell tickets, especially in the bad times. Those tickets are going to get sold. It’s always been that way except in our best years like under Mullen. You don’t live in reality.
My tailgate consists of at least 6 families that live roughly 3 hours away. They all have young kids. We all have a lot of fun tailgating and attending the games. It’s 6 Saturdays a year. Not sure why people complain. You’re either committed or you’re not
it’s fine if you don’t want to come to games, but just say it. Don’t say it’s too expensive or too hot. Those are just excuses because you’d rather be doing something else. But these are the same people that will show up in 40 degree weather to watch us lose 2 out 3 to Lipscomb in February at Dudy Noble
It’s a lot that didn’t renew. You just need to do your part now and buy those seats. I gave up 6. They’re premium now. You have no excuse.
I support plenty. Glad you gave up yours like a b!ch!
I wasn't talking about me, and your tailgate is exceptional. Most people aren't going to do that. Most people are NOT that "committed" and never will be. Your every game base, thick or thin, is always going to be local, within at most two hours. We have the smallest population population in that range in the SEC and probably one of the smallest in the country. You are never going to get your whole geographic base, and ours is split three ways. You live in fantasy land, and to some extent our athletic department does too. They continually throw up barriers for local folks to attend the games. In the long run that is going to be very detrimental.
As for me, I've attended more than my share of games in football and especially basketball over the years. I'm getting old and like my comforts now. Going to a football game isn't comfortable anymore. It never was really but it's exponentially worse now. The thing is, young folks increasingly like their comforts now too. That didn't matter much back in the day to us, It does now. The times are changing, and our athletic department better get with it. What they are doing now is all well and good for the present, but if the situation back when I was a kid had been like it is now, I might not have ever gone to a MSU game of any kind. Just something to think about for the future.
Hold on. Are you saying that more than 50% of our season tickets are less than 2 hrs away?
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So explain to me why we are the only SEC school struggling to fill our stadium right now? Does no other program “like their comforts” too? We have an attendance problem and I’m not sure it will be fixed. It’s a big issue in this era of football when you want to make your school as attractive as possible for students and recruits. Ole Miss is kicking our *** right now with this
Yeah, I've beaten that dead horse for years. Chairback lower levels and reduce stadium capacity down to about 50K. Yes, chairbacks will fit as long as you have a jackhammer, shovels, picks, and some rebar/concrete forms, etc. Our stadium was built back in the day when men averaged 5'9"/175lbs. and had an a$s width of about 15-17". Look around and tell me if that works for nowadays people.
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I agree. I think you should bowl in the SEZ and Chairback everything except the student section and upper levels. Take capacity down a few thousand, but make it a nice smaller stadium.
Yeah, it’s from the Croom era I believe. Was just showing the difference in where visitor seats used to be located.
I kept looking at the stands, I think it was just the orange on white that made it
Why shouldn't staff pay premium when they've used the discount to sell to the market?
Our fanbase is full of woe is me, poor old Mississippi State people. They complain about everything. It’s too hot, it’s too early, it’s too late, the offense isn’t exciting enough, the coach isn’t emotional on the sideline, tickets are too expensive, Ole Miss is so awesome and Lane is so cute. They’d rather sit at home and b!tch than come support the team.