So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

[Indndawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

when the #1 was in your backyard. "WOW" to quote Verne.

This charade, masquerade was just to please the delusional base of OM fans, right? Que the OM spinmeisters............................

 

[Indndawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

when the #1 was in your backyard. "WOW" to quote Verne.

This charade, masquerade was just to please the delusional base of OM fans, right? Que the OM spinmeisters............................

 

[Mutt the Hoople.buhoops]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

I think Archie likes Ole Miss, and knows he's the greatest hero they have. However, he's not as passionate about the school as its fans are. He knows the only reason he's beloved there is because he played some good football games up there in the late '60's. He probably cares more about his gig at CBS, and his kids' careers in the NFL.<div>
</div><div>However, Olivia is Ole Miss Royalty. She was aHomecomingQueen and she's probably VERY concerned with what her friends say in the Grove and around the old Sorority House. Archie was probably a little pissed at the negative reaction when Peyton chose Tennessee, but I bet it cut Olivia to the bone, and as we all know, when Mama isn't happy NO ONE is happy. Thus, now when Ole Miss comes calling asking for Archie to help them, he does what he can to keep Olivia happy.</div><div>
</div><div>This sorta reminds me when Larry Templeton got Hartley Peavey to donate some new speakers to Scott Field. The next season, the sound was worse than before. What probably happened was that Peavey wanted this little pissant AD from his old college out of his hair, so he scrounged around the back of the warehouse and found some old speakers that he couldn't sell anyway so he donated them and got the tax writeoff.</div>

 

[prettygooddawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

Arch lost alot of fans and friends when Peyton chose the Vols; in effect they threw Archie under the bus. I remember Jackie [always ready to rub salt in the rebs wounds] saying, "Peyton was the best freshman quarterback he had ever seen!"Back then, when Jackie said something Rebs sat up-right and listened.Jackie was, the Word!

 

[Indndawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

Love Jackie

 

[RebelBruiser]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

but they vetted candidates from all over the nation, started with a really long list. Many of the candidates or their agents had contacted us first. Many were names the committee chose to vet. We eliminated a good number of candidates after the vetting process. Some candidates weren't interested, as you would expect with any job. That part of the process was the primary role of the search firm.

After that, candidates were interviewed, and Freeze had the best interview of the candidates that made it to the interview process. He was the most highly recommended by the search firm, and both Mike and Archie were more impressed with him than the others they interviewed.

And that information doesn't come from the Chuck, internet rumors, or any of that. It's fact whether you choose to believe it or not. The standard response is going to be to make fun of our hire, the process, whatever, but I can tell you that we went through this process the right way. The GOB way would've been to pick a candidate based on name and make an offer to appease the masses. We didn't do that.

I won't say that Freeze wasn't favored by a lot of people from the outset, because he was, but he was vetted just like everyone else and had to interview just like everyone else we interviewed, and he won the job.

 

[patdog]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

You're usually a fairly reasonable poster, but you've had a lot of Kool-Aid to drink this morning.

 

[thunderclap]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

and how hard is it to win an interview when you're the only person that wants the job?

 

[captaindawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

There is a lot of careful wording in that explanation. If everything went down the way that you said it did then I would hate to see tapes of the other guys interviewed.

 

[RebelBruiser]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

just that he beat out the others that interviewed.

We went about this process the right way. You don't have to believe it, but I have a source that's closer to this than most people out there.

We haven't done a coaching search the right way in my life really. We did it this time. Whether you think the decision was right or not, the process was right, and Freeze won the interview over the other candidates. I don't know all of the candidates that interviewed, but I do know the name of at least one.

We had some that chose not to interview with us for various reasons as expected. Would they have won the job? Possibly. We'll never know.

I also know that a few of the popular names were eliminated early in the process for very valid concerns that were raised through the vetting process.

Again, you don't have to agree with it, but these are facts.

 

[TilloDawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

And did he turn either down ?

 

[Shmuley]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

nm

 

[ckDOG]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

Who cares about your process? If Freeze won out over more experienced/better qualified candidates, you either got turned down by more desirable candidates or your process sucks.

 

[maroonmania]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

after a pretty decent run so why should he care to put too much energy into who they get now?

 

[sleepy dawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

I could've written your post for you.

 

[dawgstudent]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

http://sixpackspeak.yuku....eisel-to-OM#reply-553011

 

[drt7891]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

I may not go to Ole Miss, but I know plenty of people who are very faithful to their school that are PISSED... and why? Your lame duck of an AD passed the buck to Archie and friends to find a head coach. Boone didn't give two ***** about this hire and the impression a lot of people are getting is that he is trying to distance himself to buy a little more time. Maybe he really isn't but perception is reality and I have had more than one Ole Miss fan tell me that.

Ole Miss is in bad shape right now, particularly at the top (AD, Chancellor, etc.)... and until the administration can recognize that and make the necessary corrections, no football coach is going to save that program or the fanbase.

The point is, your AD first fired Nutt halfway through the season, but let him continue to coach. During that time frame, Ole Miss was outscored 110-13. Then your AD said he is going to MAYBE leave... next year. So again, uncertainty from a guy no one likes. Your Chancellor won't do anything about it, as a matter of fact, publicly SUPPORTS Boone's decision... so for the next year, you have an AD with no real pressure from the people that matter to leave... just the cap and tshirt crowd that they don't care about anyway. So, no, I don't think they did this the right way. I think the fans don't trust the administration and that's where it matters most. Fans won't support a football coach that the administration hasn't really publicly supported, and one they gathered an outside committee to find.

I believe Freeze will buy the administration some time, but I think in 2 or 3 years, he will face the same fate the 3 coaches before him faced.

 

[Chesusdog]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

Servedku

 

[AssEndDawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

I thought most of your crap was message board persona. But you really are this $%$!+%# stupid aren't you? Not only are you lying your *** off, you are a complete idiot.

 

[Mjoelner]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

highschool girls basketball coaches or just random NFL coaches and other D1 coaches that Freeze out-interviewed?

 

[fishwater99]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

The point is, your AD first fired Nutt halfway through the season, but let him continue to coach. During that time frame, Ole Miss was outscored 110-13. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Then your AD said he is going to MAYBE leave... next year. So again, uncertainty from a guy no one likes.</span> Your Chancellor won't do anything about it, as a matter of fact, publicly SUPPORTS Boone's decision... <span style="font-weight: bold;">so for the next year, you have an AD with no real pressure from the people that matter to leave.</span>.. just the cap and tshirt crowd that they don't care about anyway. So, no, I don't think they did this the right way. I think the fans don't trust the administration and that's where it matters most. Fans won't support a football coach that the administration hasn't really publicly supported, and one they gathered an outside committee to find.

<span style="font-weight: bold;">I believe Freeze will buy the administration some time, but I think in 2 or 3 years, he will face the same fate the 3 coaches before him faced. </span>

Que the new Forward Rebel Advertisements...

 

[Hump4Hoops]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

The committee was put together to get a much better hire. There's no way that Freeze wasn't at least 8th or 9th on their list.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

Honestly. I can't possibly see that he was better than about 8th.

Also, I watched the press conference, and it's really sad how much the entire ole miss administration fawns all over Archie, when he doesn't appear to give 2 and a half ***** in return. Sorta comical.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

"they vetted candidates from all over the nation, started with a really long list" = ********.


Here are the reasons OM hired Freeze:


1) Since there is no way Archie Manning possesses the metabolism for conducting a prolonged coaching search, Freeze was convenient.


2) Freeze possesses the bombast of a tent revivalist, which seems to be a modern-day prerequisite for being head football coach @ the Univerity of Mississippi.


3) Freeze is not burdened with the mark of inappropriate regional birth ("He's not a yankee").


4) Freeze, while outwardly bombastic, will be a compliant puppet for the University of Mississippi power brokers.


5) Freeze has done nothing to deserve a huge salary, which OM can't pay anyway, since it will take OM years to pay Nutt his ransom money.


That's 5 reasons off the top of my head. My next 5 might actually include something about winning football games.

 

[RocketDawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

Or is that just the way you see Ole Miss seeing things?<div>
</div><div>We have a coach that is "not from the south" and he's a pretty good one. And he speaks English and doesn't embarrass the University with misuse thereof.</div>

 

[Indndawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

the presser plainly indicated that he was the #1 choice all along. If he became the #1 during vetting its one thing, but if he was it from the get-go, then why bother with the charade.

 

[Indndawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

Really wouldn't show back here for a while after that beatdown

 

[bbqbully]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

Did the "committee" make this hire or did the Tuohy's? After that book and movie, I would think they are some of the most influential alumni up there now. This may be their way of "hepping" their old friend.

 

[Indndawg]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

At first blush this would appear a bogus and asinne argument, but the way OM's GOB sytem works...wouldn't be surprised if this figured in the final decision .

 

[RebelBruiser]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

Jones was the one that brought on the committee, because it wasn't his area of expertise. He used an alum with football knowledge and an alum with business knowledge to help him out since we didn't have an AD in place.

Boone's only holding a spot right now until we hire the new AD. Not sure how you've missed that. All he's handling are the day to day operations, which is really nothing.

Also, Jones is the one who fired Nutt, not Boone. Boone was forced to announce his retirement the same day Nutt was fired. You must not have been paying attention. That said, the decision to fire Nutt had already been made well before that day.

 

[drt7891]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

"I do not intend to renew my contract." His contract expires next year. If Jones was REALLY proactive, he'd shown Boone the door, along with Nutt, put in an interim to run day to day operations, and go from there. That doesn't make any sense that he would only be there to run day to day operations... Boone is still running the show. <div>
</div><div>Also, it was Boone's recommendation to Jones last summer that he find a committee to find the next head coach... not sure how you missed that. That's exactly what Boone said. </div>

 

[RebelBruiser]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

Agree with that or not, but their vetting process and the search firm's vetting process eliminated some of the "popular" name guys without us even reaching out to them. I know that for a fact, so obviously, based on the committee of 2's criteria, the fact that he even received a phone call put him ahead of some guys that were popular with the fans.

From what I know about the process, which is more than even Chuck Rounsaville probably knows at this point, we didn't have a preferred order.

I can't explain that to you any other way than what it is. Would some of those that said no to interviews have gotten the job if they had decided to interview? Maybe, but I don't know the full list of names or what they would've brought to the table, so you can't say how many he would've been below had everyone we contacted wanted to interview. Everyone we interviewed would've taken the job if offered. I know that much, and they chose Freeze out of that bunch. Who was in that bunch? I only know of one other name for sure. How many were there at that point? I don't know, but he was the only one offered, and he was the preferred candidate of those interviewed.

That's the process they went through. Disagree with it if you want, but that's the way it went down.

I guess you could say that if Les Miles, Nick Saban, Bob Stoops, Pete Carroll, Urban Meyer, Bobby Petrino, and Chris Petersen would've listened, we would've taken them ahead of Freeze, so he's behind them on our list if you want to go that route. You determine where to draw the line on that kind of list.

If you just offer your job to someone, but you get turned down, then offer it to another guy, get turned down, then you have an order of preference. We didn't do that though, and he was the only one offered the job.

If we could've had our pick of anyone in the country, would he have been No. 1? I really doubt it, but of the candidates from our list that presented to us, he was the one they liked the best. I'd be curious to see you list the candidates you think we had ahead of him on our list, just to see your thoughts.

 

[RebelBruiser]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

I think we should've gone the interim AD route too, but we didn't. Fact remains, Boone had zero input at all on this hire or the process, and he had no input on the committee. No one ever spoke to Boone about any of it after he announced his future resignation.

The whole purpose of the committee was to make sure everyone knew that Boone was not going to have any hand in the hiring of the new football coach, and he didn't have a hand in it. I don't care what Boone said in the summer. He had nothing to do with this process or the hire. That's just a fact.

 

[RebelBruiser]

So all the flying around and wasting $$ to talk to coaches was just window dressing............

Can't explain those reasons to the board for reasons of anonymity, but it's the truth. The rest of you can take it or leave it. Probably more fun for you to leave it, so that's what I expect you'll do, and that's fine. Message boards are for entertainment and rumors.

Sometimes you discard reality as rumor, and sometimes you take rumor as reality, and usually that pendulum swings based on what you want to be true. I speak from experience.