Insider information. The ex-girlfriend of the ball boy thrice removed is in the know.
So I'm hearing it's down to
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Elko is not coming to Penn State and Hartlne may be a fallback option because he would jump at the chance. In between there are the realistic options.
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This thing with Elko, as much as I would like to see him take a swing at fixing this clusterf***k at PSU, is a massive pipe dream UNLESS there is a family issue at play. But all things being equal he would be nuts to leave TexasAM now when he has the program cooking, is in the middle of recruiting mecca, and there is no lack of cash supporting the program.
In any case, this is all speculation on everyone's part. I do not know his marital situation.
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I think he made some smart *** comments one time or something, plus he's kind of dorky looking. Could be about like having Tom Allen coaching. Not the best thing in the world, but at least he has experience doing fairly well at Missouri. I would take that over a total roll of the dice with Chesney. Chesney may end up being great somewhere, but that's a hell of a gamble.
I can't and don't disagree all I was saying is that the offer will remain on the table. They are probably hoping against hope but he remains in the conversation for them.
Please do not misunderstand what I am saying. I agree completely that you would be remiss not to headhunt the very best in the sport. Its true in every industry. Absolutely, put your best offer on the table and know in advance how high you are willing to go.
I am simply looking at it from the outside. I am looking at a set of objective markers and it makes little sense to me (save family) for why this would be realistic to him. But he may have a fly up his a** where he just has to be back in PA. Dont know.
Could be.
He would certainly be the easiest transition. I seriously doubt that the Defense would continue to be a letdown. He would have to find or bring two coaching studs one for the WO's and one as the OC. Also, he would be the one most likely to embrace retaining certain coaches and some support staff that Kraft might want to keep around. IMO there is a lot to like about Manny coming back to PS. Not a HR hire imo but certainly a steady stabilizing hire and given the time could certainly get you to the playoffs.
Even if there is something personal that is driving him back to the NE or away from A&M, there’s just no way Kraft is stupid enough to wait for him if A&M keeps winning.
What if they get to the championship game and then Elko “changes his mind”? Or A&M offers a huge new contract he can’t refuse? Or another school has a better offer? Then we’re f*cked.
For all anyone really knows, Elko’s people are talking to Penn State to drive up the price elsewhere. I know we have experts here that pay their $1.99 for the premium info, but I’m pretty sure nobody is close enough to both Kraft and Elko to really have any idea what’s really going on.
I am guessing anyone posting with they are hearing, actually knows anything. I have at least one very good connection within athletics and they don’t know crap. They said there are no loose lips right now and they normally hear things. Yet all sorts of people on the board are hearing…. 
No argument from me; makes little sense. My play would be Brohm, whose squad at 7 and 1 is outside of the top 12 rankings, behind 2 loss Texas, Oklahoma, Utah, ND teams. He could very well be thinking "what more can I do." At 6m you can double his salary and have him say no. With this guy even with that kind of money it would be a long shot.
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I sure hope the next coach’s wife doesn’t fail us like the last one did.
I know that a decision has been made. I am unable to provide further details at this time. Some will be happy with the decision, others will be very upset.
I try this with my wife, she calls my bull++++ every time. If you know who it is there is no reason not to give the name. You would not be protecting anyone and you are as out of favor as a person can be.
Why would I tell someone who literally only posts to attack me. GFY
Urban's a tough read--still don't know if he just wants attention or wants a job. Not sure anyone knows...maybe not even him
He wants to win. If he thought he could be the best, he would come back. But if there's a chance he's going to embarrass himself again somehow, he won't chance it. Even at OSU in his last few years, every year they were laying 1 or 2 big eggs and he couldn't much handle it.
I am not a big Elko fan. He showed his true colors when he left Duke. The bigger problem that I see with Elko is that a lot of people are saying that A&M is the best team in the country right now. If that's true and they win a national title or come close (I don't know who on his roster will be returning next year), then we have to wait until that plays out to get him and why would he leave if he is winning national titles at A&M?
I am not an Elko fan either. His candidacy is based off the first 8 games of the year. He could bomb the rest of the season and suddenly he is no longer an elite candidate. He was just ok last year at A&M and prior to that did no better at Duke than Diaz to date.
so when it becomes public you can say "that is the guy I knew was hired" - really going out on a limb aren't you.
Why post if you can’t key us in.
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The problem is you are looking at objective markers that may have nothing to do with his motivations.
You think you've covered the things that matter to him, but who knows?
Using a personal example...I live 2 1/2 blocks from the Atlantic Ocean. I've had companies in Orlando try to lure me away, but it's not worth leaving the beach.
Maybe he really hates College Station and it's the only motivation he needs.
agree I think he wants it but needs to figure out how he would be successful at PSU or anywhere with the current climate of college football (nil and all)
I predicated the entire discussion on just that point. For all we know, there is an oak tree he planted that he does not want to part with, Completely understand. I am very much the same way, There are not enough dollars out there to entice me to move; developers have tried. There are also not enough dollars for me to travel to a state that requires a coat and long pants. In any event, point well made. He, too, may have attachments that are not generally shared.
What's the issue with him leaving Duke?
Check out their schedule next year then look at our schedule
Because fake Barry is nothing but an attention seeking dimwit?
So when he was at Duke he was my top pick to replace Franklin if James bolted. Elko is an amazing coach. Completely disagree with saying he and Diaz are comparable at Duke. And yes it took a year to fix A&M which will be the case here if he accepts.
I believe he is conflicted. I live in 10m from UF and remember his tenure at UF; dude was brutal. Don't believe me listen to Zach Smith of Menace tell stories of the time he worked for Meyer. Urban knows that he cannot do to players what he did at UF and OSU because they would simply say "I am out" and get paid the same or more elsewhere. The Percy Harvins of the world would not put up with Urban Meyer's sh*t today. I think Urban knows all this.
On the flip side, I definitely think he has a legacy "itch." His end at OSU and then the disaster at Jacksonville have left his legacy tarnished. I think he would like to come back and put a bow tie on it. BUT if he came back to college and bombed....very likely...it just would make things worse (in his ultra-competitive head).
Do I think he would be successful today? 50/50
agree I still think timing. I do not think you can wait till late December or January.
Which is also why I argue with a lot of the "best job" arguments regarding the current openings.
Who the heck wants to live in Baton Rouge?
They'd know before then and wait to make the announcement once they're eliminated.
I understand your point but I want the best coach even if that hurts us in 2026. And I still think that gives him enough time to create a solid roster.
Time will tell. Everything is a risk but I'm content going all in on Elko and falling back to Hartline if that's how it plays out
You’re a riot. Wasn't it just yesterday that you said “there is no risk” with Elko?
And no, they won’t know before then. Every single game changes the leverage and money and everything else associated with making a hire. Sexton isn’t a complete idiot and Elko isn’t agreeing to anything before the end of the year. If he agrees in December then wins a championship he’s leaving a ton of money in the table. Now tell me how Elko will agree to coach at Penn State without knowing how much he’s getting paid and what his incentives will be.
Kelly left before the playoff true but that was when it was a 4-team playoff and was announced as LSU HC on Nov 30th. The CFP rankings that day had ND at #6 with only the conference championships left to play so his assumption was they were out of it. That's a far different scenario than what we have now with a 12-team playoff and still 4-5 more weeks of play to happen.
Got it. No chance at Elko, unless he wants to be there, then there's a chance. Is there a coach out there that isn't in the same boat?
Just so you know Brohm and PS have really warmed up to each other. Just saying.
There's always risk---the risk with Elko is worth it.
You're incorrect--coaches accept jobs all the time before the season ends
You again think this is all about the money...he'll absolutely know what he'll be paid and they can set different contract based on how far A&M goes. Like every coaching negotiation that has ever happened. You clearly don't work with contracts at all.