So let me get this straight...

[bulldognation]

NCAA claims Cam is eligible because he had no knowledge of his father's solicitation of money from MSU. He's just an innocent, gifted young athlete victim of a father who wanted a payday and was trying to broker a deal behind his back in exchange for steering him one way or the other.

Then where does that leave the testimony of Cam's phone call stating that "the money was too much"?!?

If Cam knew that "the money was too much" then he must have some knowledge of his father's dealing and therefore should be declared ineligible correct?

 

[TBonewannabe]

The NCAA has not finished their current investigation.

 

[slickdawg]

Auburn played a smart game:

1) Declare Newton ineligible, knowing the NCAA is far from finished

2) Request the NCAA expedite a ruling because of the SECCG and BCS title game, knowing they NCAA is far from finished

3) The NCAA has to rule in this very high profile case, and they have to go with eligible until all the facts are in. You are still innocent until proven guilty.

So now Auburn gets to the press and says "we declared him ineligible, the NCAA declared him eligible, this is done and we are moving on"

 

[ckDOG]

presumed by many to be Megan Mullen, there is obviously no corroborating evidence to back up her claim. Either no tapes of the conversation or no paper trail connecting the dots b/t Netwons, Money, and Auburn.

Or, they are "sitting" on the real evidence until after the season to rock the boat. I doubt that though - it would be a stretch. I think they just don't care and it's MSU's word vs Auburn's. They aren't going to turn the football world upside down based on statements made by biased parties. They'll need a lot more than just somebody connected to MSU stating that Cam said "the money was too much".

 

[therightway]

I do not think that the NCAA gets anywhere with this. The FBI on the other hand is a different story. If someone is telling Cam that his daddy or pimp may go to jail and be the prison ***** for a long time unless he spills the beans it may come out. I just do not think that the FBI cares that much about Cecil Newton. The more likely scenario would be that they would break Cecil to give up a bigger fish in the Auburn family.

 

[bbqbully]

3) The NCAA has to rule in this very high profile case, and they have to go with eligible until all the facts are in. <font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">You are still innocent until proven guilty.

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[karlchilders.sixpack]

Cam and Cecil both have had a national spotlight put on them, that neither wanted. (Exposed)
For whatever reason the NCAA and other parties wanted to throw a blanket on this for the time being.
But, there is more to come, just might take a while.

 

[ElectroSpanish]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but if Auburn plays in the BCS title game and the truth comes out after the fact that Cam did in fact get paid and is retroactively ruled ineligible and Auburn's wins are vacated the SEC, and as a member institution MSU, still get paid. Perhaps all parties including MSU are sitting on whatever info they have until after the pay check comes in. This is in MSU's best interest. Does it really matter if Auburn burns in mid-January rather than today to us? Yes, we get more money by waiting and the end result is still the same. I'm not saying this is the case but it seems reasonable

 

[FlabLoser]

....after having made allegations and having been interviewed by the NCAA about those allegations. Sitting evidence now = hiding evidence from investigators = very, very bad.

 

[SixtonPackerish]

include a fully paid education, whether he took advantage of it or not remains to be seen, the national spotlight due to AU's success on the field, top Heisman candidate, chance to play in the NC game, and a punched ticket to the NFL in the first round. Both will be sitting pretty early next year.

Penalize me.

 

[ElectroSpanish]

Good point Flab. From what we've heard it sounds like MSU has turned in all that we should know. How would MSU have any direct knowledge/evidence of what Auburn and the Newtons did or didn't do. We can't turn over the bank records of the Newtons nor Auburn boosters. I could still see the Commissioners office stalling at least though so that everyone gets paid.

Another possibility that has been brought up time and again is: Everyone involved says I'm sorry Mr./Ms. NCAA investigator I cannot comment right due to the on-going federal investigation. I want Auburn to burn on this as bad as anyone but I'd still like for us to get a slice of their BCS check in the process.

 

[ckDOG]

As in, the NCAA has the evidence now to bust them, but wants to do it after the season is over. Doing it now would cause too much chaos with respect to SEC championship games and the BCS process - and they want to avoid it.

Of course, I think the likelihood of that as being very very low. Most people will be smart enough, barring some crazy FBI connection and their subsequent exposing of additional unknown info, to understand that whatever evidence the NCAA has, they have it now. If they come back later and say "look what we found!", it's going to appear as if they were protecting the likely BCS championship game participant rather than doing the right thing by busting them, declaring Cam ineligible, and giving somebody else (TCU, etc.) a good shot at a title.

Maybe it's somewhere in the middle? It's possible that they have more evidence, but haven't been able to verify and/or piece it together the right way to make sure they can 100% say Auburn is guilty. To nail somebody the deep in the season and effectively preclude them from going undefeated and winning a NC would require an iron-clad open and close case. If the NCAA isn't comfortable with that being the case, they are going to sit on it for awhile...

 

[the next big thing]

there never were any tapes.

if there was proof, we would know by now.

i think this story is already fading away.

 

[boomboommsu]

The NCAA could very well have sat on the reinstatement request.......exactly like they did with Sidney.

The only way AU declares him ineligible is if they already knew he would be immediately reinstated.

With the NCAA, you are NOT innocent until proven guilty. With the NCAA, whenever any credible info throws doubt on your ametuer status, you are guilty until proven innocent. Unless you are Cam Newton, apparantly. They have never, NEVER, been anywhere near this lenient in any other eligibility case.

 

[elsid76]

what I think all this does is insure that Cam is one and done at Auburn.

 

[maroonmadman]

In other words does our esteemed SEC commish get a % or bonus directly related to the amount of bowl revenue the SEC generates? This would serve to explain why he's so willing to have this thing move on until AFTER all the checks have been disbursed. Also interesting to consider, somewhere down the road - yrs. from now as I see it - if AU and Cam are found to be guilty parties in this mess and they have their wins and bowl record vacated will they have to re-pay the revenue they -AU- got as a result of playing an ineligible palyer? Will all the other SEC members have to return their share as well? Cuss/Discuss