So- short turnaround for Fla- how does The Recruiter do Sat?

gravedigger

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wont have anything to do with it.

Fact is we have talent to win. But in the game of Basketball, a poor coach can negate ANY amount of talent.
 

Shmuley

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Time to stay away, stop watching, stop listening, and let grasshopper know he has to go immediately.
 

GTAdawg

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on the whole the season is over/Stans needs to go situation throughout this season so far, only b/c I thought if we could develop a little bit of momentum through the heart of our conference play and then maybewe could take care of business in the SEC tourney. But if we can't win games like tonight than we don't stand a chance in any kind of tourney, including the NIT.
Now with all that being said we will probably pull out some kind of BS and beat Fla Saturday, but even if we did I just don't see us being able to do anything going forward with the victory, its only a matter of time before the players don't give a s*&$ and they fall into a croom like trance.
 

coach66

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faults he has kept us pretty competitive notwithstanding his post season problems. With that said I think he needs to shake up his staff and instill discipline, hard work, and X's and O'swith some new assistants. Stan's is a great recruiter and evaluator of talent and I don't want to lose that, plus he had been loyal to MSU. I know I am definetly in the minority on this board but I don't think you run a guy like Stan's without giving him the opprtunity to fix his issues. If he refuses to address the problem then he should be replaced.
 

RebelBruiser

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And I do think Stans has progressively lost a step.

As far as the NCAA tourney this year, I think from the West, Alabama still has an outside shot since they are 4-1 in league play. They'll probably need to go at least 13-3 in league play to boost their RPI high enough to have a shot at an at large though. Arkansas and Ole Miss have a real long shot due to not completely awful RPIs, but I think either of us would have to finish no worse than 9-1/10-1 in league play and then maybe still would need to do damage in the SEC tourney. That's not happening.

Bama, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and MSU still have a shot at the NIT, but I think even that's a long shot for everyone but Bama, and Bama won't be able to let up if they want the NIT.

If there was ever a year when the SEC West champion could miss postseason play altogether, this is it. I'm betting the division gets 1 team in the NIT, and that's it. I'm gambling on Bama for that bid. Maybe someone gets hot and makes a run through the SEC tourney, but that's the only other way I see a West team in postseason play.

As of yesterday, these were the West RPIs:

Ole Miss - 74
Arkansas - 106
Alabama - 128
LSU - 176
MSU - 179
Auburn - 305

A top 50 RPI is probably needed to have a shot at the tourney. I think Bama with a really good league record and strong finish could sneak in with a top 60 RPI. That's about it. Our RPI isn't too far off of where it needs to be, but we won't finish better than 9-7 in the league, if we're lucky, and that won't be near enough.
 

jbulldog

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gravedigger said:
wont have anything to do with it.

Fact is we have talent to win. But in the game of Basketball, a poor coach can negate ANY amount of talent.
and when a game iswon the players always win it.It is the nature of the profession.
 
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replacing Stans.

I might be wrong about us being able to win on talent, but don't make me out as the Stans defender. I NEVER said that or even hinted at it.
 

DerHntr

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With that said I think he needs to shake up his staff and instill
discipline, hard work, and X's and O'swith some new assistants.

you can't do what you said when the inmates run the prison. no one right now on this team appears to be used to discipline from stans. are you going to give him 4 years to implement the changes so that he has all of those used to his old ways off the team (like Cohen getting rid of Polk's players)? plus, how do you know that he will actually let the new assistants have any say in what goes on?

it's time for him to go.
 

Coach34

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we have seen game after game where its comes down to the wire and we always 17 up and look stupid. Just like vs Kentucky last year at home, The Recruiter calls a time-out to set up a play- and its turns into a cluster-17....

Other than the Bama game in T-Town when Bowers won it at the end (and even then he told the newspaper he didnt do what The Recruiter drew up- said he saw something else open up), name a game where The Recruiter had us come out of a time-out to win the game?
 

Eureka Dog

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career-altering decisions.

Really. It's a serious question, because these are the same short-comings that have been noted, detailed, and talked aboutFOR YEARS. Can anyone note any substantial changes in the way he coaches over the last five years?

How much longer should reasonable fans and supportershave to wait?