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JungRebel

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Soliciting information is not a fallacy, but thanks for the input.
 
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patdog

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I'm sure a lot of people would love to know who his sources are. Because they've been damn good sources.
 

ShrubDog

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Soliciting information is not a fallacy, but thanks for the input.

I would feel bad if my AD, head coach, boosters and players have ruined my football team's future and made my school a joke. Adding to the misery is a rival school's scout writer publishing more correct information than their own. A house of dollar bills can be built in a few years, then blow away in an instant.
 

thf24

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Then what are they waiting on? 4 1/2 years....

Yeah you're probably right, after all they got all they needed to hammer USC pretty quickly. Oh wait, they didn't? How long was it again? It was about 4.5 years?

Uh oh...
 

patdog

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Steve's got sources in Oxford. Don't know if he's got other sources too. But he does have them in Oxford.
 

DawgatAuburn

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Oh please. The most knowledgeable people about what Steve has said is the OM fanbase. If you want to know any "predictions" he's made, take this **** to NAFOOM.
 

tatedog

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In addition, I will gladly put the accuracy of any predictions Steve has made up against the accuracy of statements made by Ole Miss officials and agents who actually had the documents in their grubby, cheating hands.
 

tatedog

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Do you think Steve had access to the guy who was in charge of deleting all the emails sent to the compliance department?
 

JungRebel

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Sorry; there didn't appear to be a fifty plus reply thread going on over there at the moment about the topic. I guarantee you there are more people on this board listening to the boneyard every week than on NAFOOOM. Perhaps none that listen to it as much as RebelBruiser, but do you expect me to ask him for information? That's sick.
 

Xenomorph

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Hell yeah, man.. it's the sources' fault. Sources are about to ruin your program. If it wasn't for those damn sources Freeze could keep walking on water. Y'all need to clean up all those sources up in Oxford if you want to be successful on the field and run a program you can be proud of. Crunchy Mike say 17 those sources.
 

BiscuitEater

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Then what are they waiting on? 4 1/2 years....

To the casual observer, it looks like the NCAA was ready to go in January, 2016 and sent OM a 'Notice of Allegations' (NOA) that listed ~70 separate football related violations. The NOA also included major allegations involving BOTH Bucky and other coaches like .. While at Freeze's residence, REDACTED, REDACTED and REDACTED's family members had contact with various members of the football staff, including REDACTED and Harris. Harris knew that REDACTED accompanied REDACTED, and REDACTED's family members to Freeze's residence on this occasion. [NCAA Bylaws 11.7.2.2, 13.01.4, 13.1.2.1, 13.1.2.5, 13.2.1, 13.5.3 and 13.7.2.1.2 (2012-13)]

Seems like NCAA was all set to go to 'Committee on Infractions' until 'NFL Draft night and the Tunsil admission that 'he accepted $$ from coaches.' NCAA decides that there is 'more to see' in Oxford and re-opens and broadens investigation to include OM recruited players that signed elsewhere.

That's why it has taken 4 1/2 years and counting. Did I miss anything?



 

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i think this just all goes to show you that no matter how tight and well policed you think you have your cheating, if you cross certain boundaries and you dont have the right pull in certain offices, in the end, bad things are going to happen to you. ole miss clearly doesnt have it down to a science, beat the wrong teams, and it appears they will pay the price down the road.
 

TBone.sixpack

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It's remarkable how they can convince themselves all is well. What a 17ed up culture they have. And they are proud of it. Lol
 
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Seems like NCAA was all set to go to 'Committee on Infractions' until 'NFL Draft night and the Tunsil admission that 'he accepted $$ from coaches.' NCAA decides that there is 'more to see' in Oxford and re-opens and broadens investigation to include OM recruited players that signed elsewhere.

According to Steve, additional interviews were taking place prior to the Tunsil fiasco......he was saying that there was going to be an addendum to the initial NOA well before draft night.
 

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I don't know how you can explain to the Rebels how they have been lied to over and over and over! They must realize that about a year ago that there was nothing to the investigation---all on women's basketball,track and the former football staff. Now it has matured into loss of scholarships,bowl bans,level one charges and they still believe their liars??? Pretty dumb bunch--lack of a lot of common sense being demonstrated here.
 

The Riddler

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First I hope the NCAA brings down the righteous hammer of god on the bears.

Second I don't think it's going to be nearly as bad as we hope or wish. This investigation has turned up a quite a few alarming things but notice no action has been taken. I know the bears date isn't until next summer but at this point I honestly don't believe it's going to be nearly as bad as we all want it to be.
 

msstatelp1

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First I hope the NCAA brings down the righteous hammer of god on the bears.

Second I don't think it's going to be nearly as bad as we hope or wish. This investigation has turned up a quite a few alarming things but notice no action has been taken. I know the bears date isn't until next summer but at this point I honestly don't believe it's going to be nearly as bad as we all want it to be.


Unless its the death penalty, it won't be as bad as most of us want. It's been said numerous times that the NCAA cannot let OM slide on this. If they do, not only will recruiting become a wild-west style shootout, it would mean the end of the NCAA. The truly big boys that forced the NCAA to look into OM are not going to stand around and let the NCAA whitewash this.
 
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Unless its the death penalty, it won't be as bad as most of us want. It's been said numerous times that the NCAA cannot let OM slide on this. If they do, not only will recruiting become a wild-west style shootout, it would mean the end of the NCAA. The truly big boys that forced the NCAA to look into OM are not going to stand around and let the NCAA whitewash this.

This thing is moving so slow that if they get off with just a little punishment most people (outside of us) won't care. That's the concerning thing. The further we get from that 2013 class the more this feels like ancient history.

I have no faith in the NCAA to do the right thing or to do it in a timely manner. The only time they move quickly is when they are making sure Cam Newton can play in the SEC Title Game.
 

The Riddler

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I am not saying the NCAA will let them slide. I am simply saying I don't think it will be as bad as we want it to be. Don't get me wrong I hope it is.
 

aTotal360

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I'm curious to see if they would fire Coach Swaggart if he gets a show cause. They don't have to. He can still be their coach. He'll just be "limited" in recruiting. As their last act of "all in", it wouldn't shock me if kept him around and started some "we don't fire family" campaign around it just to make themselves feel better.
 

The Riddler

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Cookie I could not agree more. This is becoming an out of sight out of mind thing for everybody but state fans. Let's keep in mind ole miss is a law school and they have enough young lawyers to keep arguing. The longer it takes for the punishment the less the punishment will be. I hope they nail those bastards to a cross but I just don't see it coming. Whatever penalties they do get won't be program ending or reshape the balance of power in Mississippi football. The way we all hope it will.
 

Junction John

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Uh huh.

 

HD6

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You know Ole Miss has a date with the COI next summer? Then you know something nobody else does, considering they are still investigating.
 

The Riddler

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I don't have an exact date or anything. That is what I keep hearing that this going to be handled over next summer. I honestly thought there was some kind of date set but if not they are going to handle over it next summer. Again I have heard a least a dozen people on this board say that. Now I could be guilty of just listening to a rumor.
 

Junction John

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You are close. It's been said they're doing this already. Meaning, they are defending his name at all costs right now, so he won't get the show cause and it won't ever come to a public decision of whether or not to fire him.

I think they are selling out on whatever else it takes (schollies, bowl ban, other coaches) so he won't be labeled a 'bad guy' and ruin his pristine reputation. I almost laughed typing that last part.
 

The Riddler

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For the record 17 you junction John. Isn't there like a cousin 17ing contest you should be at or something.
 

The Riddler

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i had figured you were a nerd with no life and the scrubs gif confirms it. So thank you for that. Let me say on behalf of all the people that have to read your posts please just stop pretending to be a sports guy. Go to like a software design message board or theoritcal mathematics message board. Please stop wasting these good peoples time.
 

engie

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Perhaps you can tell me how many level 1's effectively put Donny Tyndall out of college basketball for life?
 

engie

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You obviously have really good information and are on top of all this**
 

patdog

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Did you really think you were hiding what you were doing on this board?
 
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