does it even matter? There is no cap so what's the point? Keep it at 20.5 and let the collectives fill in.
So the rev share is not enough...
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All of us saying this isn’t sustainable obviously don’t have a clue what we’re talking about.
Athletics Directors around the country are some very intelligent people… granted they’re not always the most fiscally responsible… but collectively as a whole those intelligent people who comprise that profession are saying a few things:
A. We don’t care about the NCAA anymore and really don’t want to be bothered to even pretend that we do.
2. Don’t make us speak on things concerning education. It stopped being about that a looong time ago.
D. There is a river of money waiting for the last few guard rails to be taken off this thing. Quit bitchin about how much the players are making and just be a fan.
Athletics Directors around the country are some very intelligent people… granted they’re not always the most fiscally responsible… but collectively as a whole those intelligent people who comprise that profession are saying a few things:
A. We don’t care about the NCAA anymore and really don’t want to be bothered to even pretend that we do.
2. Don’t make us speak on things concerning education. It stopped being about that a looong time ago.
D. There is a river of money waiting for the last few guard rails to be taken off this thing. Quit bitchin about how much the players are making and just be a fan.
John Cohen would agree
Reminds me of the mob being in favor of lifting gambling restrictions. A few people are making a lot of money off of everyone else.
Seriously though.. the people driving college athletics right now are highly capable and intelligent professionals. Either they’re all brainwashed lemmings who are driving this thing off the cliff Thelma & Louise style or there is more money waiting to jump in than we can fathom.
Because from my point of view… all the stops are being pulled.
When you have a situation where people are spending more and more to compete but the participants keep losing, the participants usually pursue collusion (often illegal) or regulation. We got regulation, as expected, but there’s enough of a difference in resources that certain schools feel wildly different than others. I’d guess most want the cap low. A few richer ones don’t want it at all. It’s like asking the Yankees or Cowboys their opinion on salary caps. You’d get different answers than if you asked the Rays or the Browns
Lifting the cap would end the ruse of the "faux NIL" deals from the Collectives. And it might provide an avenue for collective bargaining down the road, which would be nice. But it could also just about bankrupt smaller schools who try to keep up.
We need some forward thinkers to push college athletics towards a new business model, but I dont think this would be the way.
If they remove the rev share cap, wouldn’t that just drive the collective donations directly to the athletic departments? Revenue is revenue; whether it comes from TV & ticket sales or private donations.
Either way, you still gotta have big $$$$ boosters. The only change is the “Pay To” line on the checks.
Either way, you still gotta have big $$$$ boosters. The only change is the “Pay To” line on the checks.
Yes, the collective money would just go to the AD to pay the students. But then it becomes part of a budget with multiple revenue streams, and a wide variety of expenses. And the money paid directly from the schools is exempt from Clearinghouse scrutiny, so they dont have to think of creative ways to utilize NIL, which means its easier pay them larger sums of money.
And, in trying to keep pace, it will be very tempting for a small budget school to cut corners on other expenses so they can meet a decent payroll. I could easily see a school trying to maintain a competitive roster, get hit with a few unexpected expenses like a coach's buyout, and finish a school year deep in the red. Hopefully the boosters will step up, but since they aren't in charge of the contracts anymore, who knows?
Obviously the revenue and budgets we hear about as fans are all a lie. Fans on this board swear that MSU Baseball does not make money. That has to be wrong since everything continues to go up. There are no corners being cut. Football was just charging poor parents thousands of dollars to see their sons play. They are flying and driving all around the nation. The money being reported in college athletics is a fraction of the money they are actually dealing with.
The rich, blue bloods are mad now. I guess they think pro sports don't have salary caps? Heck, colleges have daily fee agency even pro sports don't. Eventually college sports will restructure and schools like us will get shoved out. Might be in 2030, might be in 20 years, but it's coming.
Yes.
Rev share was one of the dumbest things we ever did. Boosters were paying for this, boosters are paying for this, and boosters will continue to pay for this. I have no idea why the schools caved to this nonsense and gave up the TV money. They listened to the "gotta return the profits to the workers" clowns I guess.
Correct. This fool knows he has the boosters to do whatever they want. I still don't know why he wants to use rev share though, I guess so he can have control.
Alabama baseball coach was making money by betting on their games. Boosters and insiders can do the same! The door is/always wide open for anyone that has inside information to make money by gambling. I often wondered if Saban and his boosters were using this to buy player before NIL.
I know there are multiple opinions on how this should shake out, but I will fall on the side of this is not ultimately good in the long run. My opinion is we will eventually reach a breaking point that will alienate a lot of the current fans. I see it with my friends and acquaintances that are long term ticket holders, apathy is setting in. That doesn't mean there wont be a new mechanism to carry this forward but I believe we are looking at huge shift in who/what supports these programs if we continue this direction. In reality the shift in support has already changed, but it could be at the expense of the traditional fan base.
Well, one way to look at it is that there is no longer any 'program building'. Anyone can catch lightning in a bottle. They might not do what Indiana did, but you could be in the mix for a playoff spot down the stretch, especially if they go to 16. And that will draw fans back in, at least.
But I admit that program building was a lot of what made it fun to me. See if you can get to a bowl, get extra practice, build for next year, recruit this type player, etc. That is gone, although a lot of people don't want it to be and still talk like it matters. And most are either old nostalgic folks or people who make a living off people following college sports.
Me giving to NIL is like me paying taxes and the Somali immigrants embezzle more money than the GDP of Somalia.