3 losses with how we lost and to who we lost given our talent earned the firing when they administration got him his missing piece in Knowles
He did win games, but he wasn't able to win the games needed to win championships. He even admitted his record in those games and said it was fact, not a narrative.
If they didn’t cave to Franklin, what makes one think they will for the next coach?
No family should be targeted
It might have been unreasonable for Franklin to think this was his most talented team ever given our weakness at DT & LB plus the unknowns at WR.
You minimize PSU's periods of greatness like it doesn't matter because it didn't last forever, or long enough in your eyes. No team is on top forever. The point is PSU did have periods of greatness and fans want to return to them. Not forever, but for a period of time.
I also think Franklin couldn’t ever keep his coaching staff together and that is very important. every year there was a few coaching changes.
We just want to believe a title is possible. Under Franklin we knew it wasn't.
Yes, spot on. Gotta walk the talk if you are gonna say things like that. Skip the slogans and coach better
Why did he try to renegotiate before this season which promised a possible championship? Shouldn't he have won himself a championship, then renegotiated? He put the cart before the horse. It seems he wanted the money without delivering the championship PSU wanted.
You don't think most coaches in America go through this? I've seen and heard the videos of Napier leaving the field in the swamp last season, this happens everywhere. Go look and see what was said Darian Devries and his family on social media after he bottled WV for IU, this isn't something new and astonishing.
Agree. I was always a CJF supporter, but that shtick was cringeworthy.
You’re not reading my posts. I didn’t say the chants didn’t have an impact. I’m saying they should not have been allowed to impact them. Your idol and mine would not have let that happen. Franklin seemingly did. You coached. I assume you would have made sure your team was focused for the next game. Franklin did not do it. The very crux of his job is to make sure his team is prepared to play every week against the opponent on the field. They didn’t look like they were prepared any week this season. Eventually they got there with Oregon, but they didn’t come out of the gate ready to go. His time was done.
Think of ‘05. This Oregon loss was no more heartbreaking than the Michigan loss in ‘05. In fact, this loss should have been less impactful because the playoffs were still very much in play as opposed to ‘05 where that loss essentially killed any national championship hopes. We came out the next week against Illinois and obliterated them. What was the score at halftime, 49-0? I thought Tampa Hali was going to kill their QB. The team came to play. This team seemingly gave up after the Oregon game. That’s on the coach. You don’t get to not earn your salary because you lost a heartbreaker and some fans wanted you fired.
He’s not even defending the past two weeks. He’s not acknowledging the misery of the last two weeks, but he’s not defending it. It’s really indefensible.
Not dealing with computer chips. We are dealing with human beings. Franklin was hung out to dry after the Oregon game. No statement of support by the Athletic Director....certainly no statement of support from the president. At that point (before the UCLA game) players were packing their bags.
Why did he need a statement of support after again failing?
Think of 1999. #6 PSU loses to an unranked Minnesota team and loses the next 2.
And many of us believe that's when Paterno should have retired or been forced out
I think PSU want an undefeated team once per decade and maybe one or two 1 loss teams. Franklin's best seasons were 2 losses.
Not recognizing the stadium upgrade.....which isn't reality yet.....you won't find one article that rates Penn States overall football facilities in the top.
All of this. I'd have taken 10-2 and a first round exit to be honest. Would have still been frustrated but wouldn't ask for him to be fired.
From 1950 - 2000, Penn State was arguably the # football program - im tne aggregate. It csn be again with the right hire. Will be fun to see if we can find it as it is certainly not guaranteed or deserved.
To your point....
There's absolutely nothing wrong with PSU's facilities. In fact, they're like the Taj Mahal compared to Michigan's. Do expect the facilities to be like a Carribbean resort with gold plated toilets?
Even under Franklin, we were all so very close. With the right hire, 111,000 in the seats, and many more watching at home, we can rise to the top as a true blue blood.
I posted here many times that the Letterman were concerned since August. They know better than most.
You don't care an awful lot for a guy that doesn't care. Carry on not caring over 50 more posts. We don't care. He don't care. She don't care. Everyone don't care. F it, I don't care either.
Hi Meats,
Right. That was a team the coach lost. And look at what happened the next 5 seasons. Franklin does not have Paterno’s track record to fall back on. If he did, he’d still be the coach.
My firm prediction is that after 1 year the cry here from the loyal BWICAC will be "we deserve better."
Between 1950 and 2000 PSU won 2 wire service National Championships.
They didn’t look good the first three weeks either. We all saw. Then we played teams with a pulse and the results have followed.
I used to care. Free at last.......thinking PSU football and its fanbase had the moral high ground,well, it was my mistake. I see my error and admit it.
It survived because of the foundation that started to be built in 1950. Period. Full stop.
You aren't free until you can step away from the keyboard. Until then, "I don't care" is an act.
