So Trumps numbers have gone up after his banning comments....

mule_eer

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Maybe they are the same nuts who made the same claims about McCain when he was running against President Obama. Surely you remember.
I'd like some sources on that. I don't recall that from any PACs or the Obama campaign. Now maybe you are referring to individuals who supported Obama in that election, and I can't say that you're wrong. I sure didn't hear any of that sentiment from Obama supporters. Most of what I heard from that side were attempts to make McCain sound like a continuation of Bush.

I will also add that McCain took a hard line against supporters who questioned the legitimacy of Obama's candidacy. I respected that. He could have tried to fire up the kook fringe, but he took the high road. Flash to 2016, and Trump is living off of firing up the kook fringe. I think that speaks to their respective levels of character.
 

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No it doesn't . A lot of his support, which doesn't just come from the GOP, is from lower-middle or lower income. A lot of people are beyond fed up with Washington, political games, special interest groups, and always looking to fix things that aren't broken, while they've lost their middle income factory job and had it shipped overseas... now they work in McDonald's trying to make a living and McDonald's <> factory job. They'd just as soon do away with the feds, and this is their way of showing it.

Can't believe the intellectual elites haven't figured this out yet.
Plus, this.

He gets a ton of free media coverage and he can own political viewpoints by making a comment that borders on outrageous, letting the media run with it and try to blow him up and then when he clarifies his position they all cover it in mass. He often gets most of the criticism from his own party meaning that even they can't ride his position if the public ends up liking it. The guy is a deal maker. He opens the negotiation with the crazy extreme and works it back toward the position he wants and people find it palatable. At least the people who support him do.
 

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Maybe they are the same nuts who made the same claims about McCain when he was running against President Obama. Surely you remember.
Obama never discredited McCain and I don't remember a bump in any polls when stupid leftists made those shameful comments. Your comment is not relative but good job once again somehow bringing Obama or Hillary into a conversation tht has nothing to do with them. You people are excellent at irrelevant comments.
 

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I'd like some sources on that. I don't recall that from any PACs or the Obama campaign. Now maybe you are referring to individuals who supported Obama in that election, and I can't say that you're wrong. I sure didn't hear any of that sentiment from Obama supporters. Most of what I heard from that side were attempts to make McCain sound like a continuation of Bush.

I will also add that McCain took a hard line against supporters who questioned the legitimacy of Obama's candidacy. I respected that. He could have tried to fire up the kook fringe, but he took the high road. Flash to 2016, and Trump is living off of firing up the kook fringe. I think that speaks to their respective levels of character.

Have you ever heard of Google? If you want sources go find them, I won't get them for you. I also NEVER said Obama or his campaign made any such remarks about McCain. I also have NEVER defended Trumps remarks about McCain.
 

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You know that they didn't do it at first because Obama was more concerned about some oil on the desert floor. You can't win with thinking like that. I'm glad he changed his policy only after the the public was informed of his namby pamby response.
 

bornaneer

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Obama never discredited McCain and I don't remember a bump in any polls when stupid leftists made those shameful comments. Your comment is not relative but good job once again somehow bringing Obama or Hillary into a conversation tht has nothing to do with them. You people are excellent at irrelevant comments.

Do you know how to read? NEVER said Obama or his campaign discredited McCain. I also NEVER mentioned the name Hillary anywhere in this thread. You also MIGHT want to check WHO brought up names other than Trump in this thread. Surely you are not as dumb as you appear.
 

WVUBRU

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Do you know how to read? NEVER said Obama or his campaign discredited McCain. I also NEVER mentioned the name Hillary anywhere in this thread. You also MIGHT want to check WHO brought up names other than Trump in this thread. Surely you are not as dumb as you appear.
Yup, i double checked and you responded to a post that had nothing to do with Obama and you brought it up out of thin air. Are you dishonest with everything you do or are you just a liar on this board? I'm guessing,both
 

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Yup, i double checked and you responded to a post that had nothing to do with Obama and you brought it up out of thin air. Are you dishonest with everything you do or are you just a liar on this board? I'm guessing,both

Or perhaps it's you because you can't read? He never said any Democrats did this, at all. You put that out there, not him.
 

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Isis was doing cartwheels over this admin refusing to engage them like they meant it. We can't take out oil tankers because:

4.Require our pilots to actually fly a real mission

This is pretty disrespectful to our pilots. They are always ready and willing to do anything they need to do. Why put their lives at risk when we can do more targeted attacks with UAVs?
 

bornaneer

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Yup, i double checked and you responded to a post that had nothing to do with Obama and you brought it up out of thin air. Are you dishonest with everything you do or are you just a liar on this board? I'm guessing,both

Man you are dense.......I said this; "Maybe they are the same nuts who made the same claims about McCain when he was running against President Obama." NEVER implied Obama or his campaign said anything about McCains war experience. I'm still waiting for you to point out where I mentioned Hillary in this thread. It appears YOU are the LIAR.
 

WVUBRU

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Man you are dense.......I said this; "Maybe they are the same nuts who made the same claims about McCain when he was running against President Obama." NEVER implied Obama or his campaign said anything about McCains war experience. I'm still waiting for you to point out where I mentioned Hillary in this thread. It appears YOU are the LIAR.
Maybe you should double check posts. I never said you mentioned Hillary. That is fact as is fact you manage to mention Obama in a thread that has nothing to do with him. I didn't accuse you of anything you have claimed except for being a liar. And that is proven once again. So take your thin skinned knee jerk elsewhere and quit whining.
 

WVUBRU

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Maybe you just don't know the word "or" . Being dumb and dishonest is so dave of you
 

TarHeelEer

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Maybe you should double check posts. I never said you mentioned Hillary. That is fact as is fact you manage to mention Obama in a thread that has nothing to do with him. I didn't accuse you of anything you have claimed except for being a liar. And that is proven once again. So take your thin skinned knee jerk elsewhere and quit whining.

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