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likely heading to G5 status...or weak P5 status if the Big 12-4=8 manages to reconstitute itself...will you still follow and support?
 

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I've seen no evidence of that likelyhood. Several B12 teams are having discussions with various entities with more secrecy than a Masonic Lodge. Consider how long Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC talks took place with both parties knowing damn well it would be done.
 

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But even if a worst case scenario would occur I would still be a Mountaineer. It would be a gut punch though, especially with several schools being parasites on their conferences under the premise of increasing academic prestige. It comes down to butts in stadium seats and eyes on screens, TV or PC.
 

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I've seen no evidence of that likelyhood. Several B12 teams are having discussions with various entities with more secrecy than a Masonic Lodge. Consider how long Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC talks took place with both parties knowing damn well it would be done.
What room are you hiding in lol?
 

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Only ones that will give up are bandwagon fans that come here bitchng after every loss. Sound familiar?
 
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But even if a worst case scenario would occur I would still be a Mountaineer. It would be a gut punch though, especially with several schools being parasites on their conferences under the premise of increasing academic prestige. It comes down to butts in stadium seats and eyes on screens, TV or PC.
Have to understand the history of Vanderbilt.
Maybe there comes a time they get replaced. But Vandy plays a prominent historical role in the formation of CFB.

Between when football started and the 1920’s Vanderbilt had a winning record against both Texas and Alabama
Against GA Tech as well who was one of the original powers.
Texas played them in Dallas before they played OU

Not just “academic prestige” it is because Vanderbilt created college athletics for the most part with the SIAA and then became the dominant football school for the first 30 years
 

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Have to understand the history of Vanderbilt.
Maybe there comes a time they get replaced. But Vandy plays a prominent historical role in the formation of CFB.

Between when football started and the 1920’s Vanderbilt had a winning record against both Texas and Alabama
Against GA Tech as well who was one of the original powers.
Texas played them in Dallas before they played OU

Not just “academic prestige” it is because Vanderbilt created college athletics for the most part with the SIAA and then became the dominant football school for the first 30 years
Only you would you pretend to care about Vanderbilt. What's your next profile? TheCommieCommodore?

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Vanderbilt has history, so does Wake Forest and a couple of other conference parasites. They add no monetary value to the conference at all, yet they take a full share of conference revenue. Nostalgia pays no bills.
 

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Vanderbilt brings an elite baseball program right now

Gives fans a Road stadium to overrun in football
It has nothing to do with college baseball--a money loser for most, and about which almost nobody cares--and all to do with the black eye that the SEC would have, if it kicked out the best academic institution (by far) in its conference. It's the same reason that Northwestern won't ever be kicked out of the B1G.
 
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It has nothing to do with college baseball--a money loser for most, and about which almost nobody cares--and all to do with the black eye that the SEC would have, if it kicked out the best academic institution (by far) in its conference. It's the same reason that Northwestern won't ever be kicked out of the B1G.
Not even the best academic institution
As of right now that would be the University of Florida

Baseball makes money.
Going to make a lot more in the future
 

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I posted proof. You argue just to be argumentative. Run along now, as you bore me, TrollVanZandt.
Subjective ranking Isn’t proof
For university presidents Florida has more value because of the size of the school and because of the research
Vanderbilt is a much smaller school and doesn’t offer many top tier programs

I don’t think they have a single program in the Top 5/10
 

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Subjective ranking Isn’t proof
For university presidents Florida has more value because of the size of the school and because of the research
Vanderbilt is a much smaller school and doesn’t offer many top tier programs

I don’t think they have a single program in the Top 5/10
Vanderbilt is No. 14. Florida is No. 30. Start counting on your fingers and toes...
 
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Vanderbilt is No. 14. Florida is No. 30. Start counting on your fingers and toes...

If you believe US News
Look at the individual programs…
Tell me how many programs each school has in the Top 5 or 10
You will see the difference

Majority of private schools are highly overrated
You know why.
Teach you something

Florida will always get applications
Vanderbilt won’t

Florida has a program similar to Texas but they have to take students that finish in the Top 10% regardless of high school
Texas can pick what High school
Jeb and George W set it up
 

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See the heading at top of forum....

Mountaineer Message Board.
Take your ******** and walk.
 

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I have to laugh at posters criticizing schools like Vanderbilt and Wake Forest. Bottom line they are in P5 conferences and WVU soon won't be. In fact it's pretty obvious that the other four P5 conferences don't think any of the remaining eight schools in the Big12-4=8 conference are worthy of a look and are already G5 schools.