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Back when the kickoff was from the 35 the percentages in NFL overtimes were right at 50-50 as to whether the kicking team or the receiving team won in overtime, meaning that the advantage of getting the ball first was almost exactly offset by the disadvantage of getting it in bad field position (usually around the 20). With the kickoff at the 30 though few kickers can get touchbacks so the odds have swung to the receiving team. The NFL needs to just kick off the overtime from the 35 to bring the odds back to 50-50.JohnDawg said:
Team A wins the toss and gets the ball.
1. If they score, they kick off to Team B. Team B then has to match or beat that score.
2. If Team B matches Team A's score, they kick back off to Team A and the game continues as sudden death.
3. If Team B beats Team A's score, they win.
4. If Team A does not score on their first possession, then Team B gets the ball (following a punt or turnover), and the game continues as sudden death.
You get the best of both with that. Each team is guaranteed one possession, but you still have the sudden death aspect.
1. If they score, they kick off to Team B. Team B then has to match or beat that score.
2. If Team B matches Team A's score, they kick back off to Team A and the game continues as sudden death.
3. If Team B beats Team A's score, they win.
4. If Team A does not score on their first possession, then Team B gets the ball (following a punt or turnover), and the game continues as sudden death.
You get the best of both with that. Each team is guaranteed one possession, but you still have the sudden death aspect.
I don't even know where to begin on that.
I hate PK's but we have them because nobody else has come up with a better system. The fact is you can't just keep playing. The game begins to get ugly, slow, and physically dangerous. And it could be argued that the MLS is already having issues with two of those conditions. The sports/rules simply do not support having the game extended on extra period after extra period. The teams wouldn't even have the man power. You could see fatigue starting to set in arleady.
PK's aren't ideal, but there isn't a better option or we'd have it in place. And that isn't for a lack of trying...remember the system the MLS used back when it started? I actually enjoyed those even more.
I hate PK's but we have them because nobody else has come up with a better system. The fact is you can't just keep playing. The game begins to get ugly, slow, and physically dangerous. And it could be argued that the MLS is already having issues with two of those conditions. The sports/rules simply do not support having the game extended on extra period after extra period. The teams wouldn't even have the man power. You could see fatigue starting to set in arleady.
PK's aren't ideal, but there isn't a better option or we'd have it in place. And that isn't for a lack of trying...remember the system the MLS used back when it started? I actually enjoyed those even more.
I don't recall it happening in a while. He is usually money in that situation. In fact, I understand a player missing one here and there, but to blast it over the goal like he did was sure not like him. He rarely forces those things.
WSJ wrote this article just before the MLS final commending Donovan's PK skills... Ironical that they should compare him to Baggio - same style miss..jinxed him. It also mentions that he has never missed a PK for the US team.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704204304574545992823111008.html
He was 21 out of 23 (now 21/24) from the spot in MLS. It says he missed one in 2007 in the SuperLiga final. It doesn't mention the other miss.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=702588&sec=mls&root=mls&cc=5901
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704204304574545992823111008.html
He was 21 out of 23 (now 21/24) from the spot in MLS. It says he missed one in 2007 in the SuperLiga final. It doesn't mention the other miss.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=702588&sec=mls&root=mls&cc=5901
But that Real Salt Lake was even given a chance to play for a championship is a joke. They lost more games than they won in the regular season, for crying out loud.
There are 15 teams in MLS, and 8 go to the playoffs. That is absurd. And the playoff format is just as absurd. First of all, if 28 of a team's 30 regular season games come from 2 games against everybody else (the other 2 are "rivalry" games within the conference), why even bother having Eastern and Western conferences? There's no need. Secondly, if more than 4 teams qualify from one conference (Real Salt Lake finished 5th in the Western Conference this year), teams lower than 4th play in the other conference bracket. So, this year's Eastern Conference Champion is Real Salt Lake, a team from the Western Conference. Make sense of that.
The first round is home-and-home. Then the "conference" finals are single elimination. And then a single championship game. That's 4 games if you make it through.
15 teams, of which 8 go to the playoffs, and only 4 games (of which 1 can be a loss in the first round) are needed to win the championship. Talk about a meaningless regular season.
Maybe I've been watching the EPL too long.
There are 15 teams in MLS, and 8 go to the playoffs. That is absurd. And the playoff format is just as absurd. First of all, if 28 of a team's 30 regular season games come from 2 games against everybody else (the other 2 are "rivalry" games within the conference), why even bother having Eastern and Western conferences? There's no need. Secondly, if more than 4 teams qualify from one conference (Real Salt Lake finished 5th in the Western Conference this year), teams lower than 4th play in the other conference bracket. So, this year's Eastern Conference Champion is Real Salt Lake, a team from the Western Conference. Make sense of that.
The first round is home-and-home. Then the "conference" finals are single elimination. And then a single championship game. That's 4 games if you make it through.
15 teams, of which 8 go to the playoffs, and only 4 games (of which 1 can be a loss in the first round) are needed to win the championship. Talk about a meaningless regular season.
Maybe I've been watching the EPL too long.