**************SOCCER POST*************
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This "continuous action" thing is a myth. Two guys pitty-pat the ball back and forth while 20 other guys stand around. When the ball does move up one side of the field a handful of guys trot along with it, and the guys on the other side trot slowly/walk up the field.
Periodically somebody "makes a run", or the ball gets kicked over everybody's head and 2 or 3 guys (out of 22) race for it. For a few seconds the action is fast. Then we stand around some more.
For that short time, fast. But continuous - no.
Kinda like running plays in real-football.
I kinda enjoy the game, and the WC, but continuous action? Nope, continuous clock, but NOT continuous action.
Periodically somebody "makes a run", or the ball gets kicked over everybody's head and 2 or 3 guys (out of 22) race for it. For a few seconds the action is fast. Then we stand around some more.
For that short time, fast. But continuous - no.
Kinda like running plays in real-football.
I kinda enjoy the game, and the WC, but continuous action? Nope, continuous clock, but NOT continuous action.
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I would agree that nobody who enjoys baseball can complain about soccer being boring, but soccer does not have continuous action.
I haven't gotten into the other forms of soccer, but I do like to watch the World Cup matches. I was hooked 4 years ago by my buddy, who lives in Germany now. We had brunch every morning while watching the games at his house. I always knew the basic rules of soccer, but he taught me enough about the other aspects of the game to enjoy a match. I haven't watched much of the European/England leagues, but I do get to watch some of the Mexican games at our local cantina. Could never get into the MSL.
I guess the nation pride thing is why I like the World Cup games.
I sure hope everyone is not just Germany's ***** again this time around.
I guess the nation pride thing is why I like the World Cup games.
I sure hope everyone is not just Germany's ***** again this time around.
I make no claim to understand the game. I don't understand cricket or curling either.
But I don't find soccer boring. Curling is, but still kinda fascinating in its own way.
Soccer is not "continuous action". It is spurts of very fast, highly-skilled action sprinkled among long waits while "the play gets called", and everybody gets lined up, or the infield/outfield shift, or whatever it's called when soccer players are not being "dynamic".
Do I understand the fine points and strategery? No. But I do understand standing around when I see it.
For more-nearly continuous action check out rugby or Australian rules football.
But I don't find soccer boring. Curling is, but still kinda fascinating in its own way.
Soccer is not "continuous action". It is spurts of very fast, highly-skilled action sprinkled among long waits while "the play gets called", and everybody gets lined up, or the infield/outfield shift, or whatever it's called when soccer players are not being "dynamic".
Do I understand the fine points and strategery? No. But I do understand standing around when I see it.
For more-nearly continuous action check out rugby or Australian rules football.
You are making the point every soccer fan makes about people who call the game "boring" and make some stupid comment about the scoreline. If you're going to comment about what is going on in the game, at least make an effort to understand what is going on off of the ball. Except when it is passed back to the keeper, people are constantly making runs to open areas or getting in position to make a secondary run. There is a lot that goes on to pull defenders one way or another before any passes are attempted...similar to movement in basketball or WR routes in football. Yeah, the pass may have been between two guys only, but the receiver of the ball may only be open because of the action of another player not involved with a touch of the ball.
It would be one thing if you understood what was going on. But you readily admit that you don't have a clue, yet give an opinion that is about as far from the truth as possible.
not having a clue is irrelevant.
I watch the game. Guys are standing around. I call that "standing around", not continuous action.
"you don't understand" is always the soccer apologists mantra.
The game is not boring. The skill level those guys show is really pretty amazing. And I will watch and enjoy some of the WC.
But it is not continuous action.
I watch the game. Guys are standing around. I call that "standing around", not continuous action.
"you don't understand" is always the soccer apologists mantra.
The game is not boring. The skill level those guys show is really pretty amazing. And I will watch and enjoy some of the WC.
But it is not continuous action.
yet another soccer apologist.
I've already, said multiple times, I don't understand the intricacies of soccer as I understand, say, baseball.
What I do understand is soccer just ain't all that much different from other sports. It has about the same amounts of dead time, those times when almost everybody on the field is walking or standing around.
The claim that soccer has "continuous action" is specious. It has a continuous clock, yes, but that does not equate to continuous action.
as an exercise, I just went in and turned on watchespn to watch a little soccer - had to hunt pretty hard for a replay. The kick off went backwards for 3 touches while everybody except one guy walked or stood around. I know that is probably a tactic of whichever team, but I could see 11 players on the screen. All were walking/standing. 3 minutes have gone by. the ball mostly goes backwards. Once I've seen 2 guys break into a dead run, but the ball went out and everybody stopped. There was one play where somebody passed up the middle and pass was intercepted and went the other way. 3 guys in the middle running like crazy, the others on the outside broke into a jog until the guy in the middle kicked it over the end and everybody stopped, then turned and walked/trotted back.
When the ball went out on the side the guy throwing it in took 23 seconds before he threw it about 10 yards to a teammate, who was standing still, as was everyone else in view. Maybe there was a guy making a break somewhere not in view, but I bet it was a lot like an inbounds pass under the hoop, except you don't get 23 seconds to throw it.
I've already, said multiple times, I don't understand the intricacies of soccer as I understand, say, baseball.
What I do understand is soccer just ain't all that much different from other sports. It has about the same amounts of dead time, those times when almost everybody on the field is walking or standing around.
The claim that soccer has "continuous action" is specious. It has a continuous clock, yes, but that does not equate to continuous action.
as an exercise, I just went in and turned on watchespn to watch a little soccer - had to hunt pretty hard for a replay. The kick off went backwards for 3 touches while everybody except one guy walked or stood around. I know that is probably a tactic of whichever team, but I could see 11 players on the screen. All were walking/standing. 3 minutes have gone by. the ball mostly goes backwards. Once I've seen 2 guys break into a dead run, but the ball went out and everybody stopped. There was one play where somebody passed up the middle and pass was intercepted and went the other way. 3 guys in the middle running like crazy, the others on the outside broke into a jog until the guy in the middle kicked it over the end and everybody stopped, then turned and walked/trotted back.
When the ball went out on the side the guy throwing it in took 23 seconds before he threw it about 10 yards to a teammate, who was standing still, as was everyone else in view. Maybe there was a guy making a break somewhere not in view, but I bet it was a lot like an inbounds pass under the hoop, except you don't get 23 seconds to throw it.
Maybe if the announcers screamed out "MIDFIELD" every time they crossed the midfield line. It could replace the "FIRST DOWN" calls that represent most of the action in football. I like both sports, although I will say that having a love of playing and watching soccer makes me have absolutely no understanding of a how a skill player in football would ever cramp, or need oxygen after running the ball the length of the field. Linemen I understand...
Football: SportVu found that cornerbacks and wide receivers, who tend to run the most, run about 1.25 miles per game, so it's safe to assume most players run less. An analysis by the Wall Street Journal found the average American football player only moves, let alone runs, for 11 minutes per game.
Basketball: NBA players run nowhere near the oft-cited five miles per game. According to STATS, the player who ran the farthest per game in 2012 was Luol Deng of the Chicago Bulls, at 2.72 miles on average.
Soccer: Long games, a massive field and a constantly moving ball add up to serious distance for soccer players. STATS puts the average at 7 miles per game depending on position, and as much as 9.5 miles for some players (not including goalies, of course).
Basketball: NBA players run nowhere near the oft-cited five miles per game. According to STATS, the player who ran the farthest per game in 2012 was Luol Deng of the Chicago Bulls, at 2.72 miles on average.
Soccer: Long games, a massive field and a constantly moving ball add up to serious distance for soccer players. STATS puts the average at 7 miles per game depending on position, and as much as 9.5 miles for some players (not including goalies, of course).
0-0 x7 is still 0-0.
That's the 5th most common score, at about 9% of all matches.
PURE ADRENALINE!
That's the 5th most common score, at about 9% of all matches.
PURE ADRENALINE!
If you considered constant shots on goal as "constant actions", then you are correct. But if you considered constant movement of the ball without commercial breaks and stoppages in play as "constant action" like most of us do, then you are incorrect. "Action" is the key word here, and you obviously have a more dynamic meaning of that word than most of us.
Great explanation of CONTINUOUS ACTION OF THE BALL. The only time the ball is not being played upon is during an injury. There is no 40 second lull between every kick. No 25 second adjustment of socks and pants between every kick. The ball is constantly being played upon, which is continuous action. Just because guys aren't running full out non-stop doesn't indicate non-action.
Evidently you have never played soccer. A marathon is a single pace from start to finish. Soccer is sprint, jog, sprint, jog, one minute rest when the ball is away from you, rinse and repeat for 45 straight minutes. 20-30 minute halftime and same story for another 45. I grew up playing and it's more demanding endurance wise than any other sport I have ever played by miles