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Texas A&M will become a member of the SEC in 2012. There will be uneven divisions for one season, with the West having 7 teams and the East having 6.

West teams will play a six team round-robin, and two teams from the East (permanent and Class III, so we would play Kentucky and at South Carolina).
The East teams will play a five team round robin, and two teams from the West. The SEC will apply for an exemption for one season so that the East teams can play 11 games, but they will be able to schedule teams if they can find them.

Beginning in 2013, it seems like the buzz is another East team will be added. The SEC will stop at 14. The teams that seem to be generating the most buzz are the usual suspects, Virginia Tech, Florida State and Clemson. Maryland and NC State were mentioned, but the SEC presidents are seemingly wanted to go to 14, and that means keeping geography a factor. Those five teams are on the radar.

The SEC will go to a 9 game schedule in 2013. Six game round robin in division, one permanent cross division and two rotators. There might be a reset of permanents and the rotation cycle.
 
615dawg

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Texas A&M will become a member of the SEC in 2012. There will be uneven divisions for one season, with the West having 7 teams and the East having 6.

West teams will play a six team round-robin, and two teams from the East (permanent and Class III, so we would play Kentucky and at South Carolina).
The East teams will play a five team round robin, and two teams from the West. The SEC will apply for an exemption for one season so that the East teams can play 11 games, but they will be able to schedule teams if they can find them.

Beginning in 2013, it seems like the buzz is another East team will be added. The SEC will stop at 14. The teams that seem to be generating the most buzz are the usual suspects, Virginia Tech, Florida State and Clemson. Maryland and NC State were mentioned, but the SEC presidents are seemingly wanted to go to 14, and that means keeping geography a factor. Those five teams are on the radar.

The SEC will go to a 9 game schedule in 2013. Six game round robin in division, one permanent cross division and two rotators. There might be a reset of permanents and the rotation cycle.
 
615dawg

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nothing official, but if a conference has 13 teams with one division of 7 and one division of 6, simple math dictates that one side will have to play one more game than the other.

An exemption would be needed because the West teams would be pissed if the East teams were able to pick up a fifth non-conference game, which would surely be a home patsy.
 
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The east teams will be allowed to have only 11 games but are allowed to schedule 12? Then why would they not schedule a patsy? Seems like a big disadvantage for teams in the West. I see why it's fair to make both sides only play 2 teams from the other side.. but 8 sec games to 7 sounds a little too unbalanced
 
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Let's look at Kentucky. Right now their 2012 non-conference schedule looks like this:
Louisville
Kent State
Western Kentucky
Samford

That's likely 3 guaranteed wins and a good shot at 4. They have to play currently an eight game conference schedule. If the West goes to 7 and the East stays at 6 for a year, then there are two possibilities:

The West plays a 9 game schedule and the East (and one select West team) keeps an 8 game schedule
The West plays an 8 game schedule and the East (and one select West team) drops to a 7 game schedule

That's the only way it will work out. The West teams certainly don't want to have to play 9 games, so they will opt for 8, which requires a drop to 7 for the East teams.

There are two options:
The NCAA grants a waiver to the 12 game rule and allows the SEC East teams to play 11 games (which would piss off the 3 teams that lost a home game and the revenue that comes from it)
OR
The SEC East teams find another last minute opponent for a fifth non-conference game (which the East teams would obviously favor, because they would schedule a patsy)

So Kentucky already has a weak schedule, and they add Southern Indiana or somebody like that. All of a sudden, they have five non-conference wins, meaning 1-7 in the SEC gets them to a bowl, while Mississippi State drops Tennessee, picks up Texas A&M, and still has to win 6 games.

And here's the kicker - one West team, likely the newcomer, would only have to play 7 games. What if A&M went 6-1 with a loss to LSU and LSU went 6-2 with losses to two East teams??

Its going to be a controversy no matter what.
 
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making them play all 12 current members in their inaugural season?** Make them earn their keep.
 
Shmuley

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of high school football games on networks like The Longhorn Network reduce the possibility of aTm making a move?
 
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Can we not find another new team by 2012? If not, maybe Texas A&M could be "independent" in 2012 but play 6-8 SEC games and still take the money (and join the conference for every other sport), and then in 2013 both new teams join for football...
 
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That is only a small part of the problem. The major problem is that Texas runs the conference, and does not deal in good faith with the other members. Texas A&M has just given t.u. the f.u..
 
missouridawg

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at all....

There's several problems... The Longhorn Network in general has left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.... and Texas' arrogance is unreal. aTm finally got tired of being little brother it appears.
 
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It's just that they can play no more than 12 games* between the Thursday before Labor Day and the second Saturday or Sunday of December, not counting conference championship games.

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D112.pdf

Check out page 263.

*-with exceptions, such as the Hawaii Rule.

How does the MAC handle their division scheduling? They've been rolling with unbalanced divisions for several years.
 
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so that everyone could play out their committed schedules? Anyone? Anyone? I mean damn, isn't our schedule already set for the next few years? This is making my head fall off.
 
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I have no idea if this is actually the case, but I wonder if leaving wasn't TAMU's plan along. They took the money and ran -- so to speak. <div>
</div><div>This is anexcerpt from a post I left earlier this week regarding the "Longhorn Network" referring to the money I am talking about.
<div>
</div><div><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;
mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:
EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">Oklahoma and Texas A&M – two schools being
very vocal against the LHN – are also being incredibly hypocritical.<span> </span>The LHN was a factor when the Big 12 nearly
dissolved this past year.<span> </span>Everyone knew
about it and agreed to it when the conference stayed together.<span> </span>Additionally, for the conference to stay
together, five schools who were “odd men out” – Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri,
Iowa State, and Baylor – were forced to give Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas A&M
their portions of the money paid to the conference by Nebraska and Colorado in
order to leave early.<span> </span>The other two
schools – Texas Tech and Oklahoma State – were forced to take a smaller
percentage of their portions.<span></span></span></div> </div>
 
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615dawg said:
Let's look at Kentucky. Right now their 2012 non-conference schedule looks like this:
Louisville
Kent State
Western Kentucky
Samford

That's likely 3 guaranteed wins and a good shot at 4. They have to play currently an eight game conference schedule. If the West goes to 7 and the East stays at 6 for a year, then there are two possibilities:

The West plays a 9 game schedule and the East (and one select West team) keeps an 8 game schedule
The West plays an 8 game schedule and the East (and one select West team) drops to a 7 game schedule

That's the only way it will work out. The West teams certainly don't want to have to play 9 games, so they will opt for 8, which requires a drop to 7 for the East teams.

There are two options:
The NCAA grants a waiver to the 12 game rule and allows the SEC East teams to play 11 games (which would piss off the 3 teams that lost a home game and the revenue that comes from it)
OR
The SEC East teams find another last minute opponent for a fifth non-conference game (which the East teams would obviously favor, because they would schedule a patsy)

So Kentucky already has a weak schedule, and they add Southern Indiana or somebody like that. All of a sudden, they have five non-conference wins, meaning 1-7 in the SEC gets them to a bowl, while Mississippi State drops Tennessee, picks up Texas A&M, and still has to win 6 games.

And here's the kicker - one West team, likely the newcomer, would only have to play 7 games. What if A&M went 6-1 with a loss to LSU and LSU went 6-2 with losses to two East teams??

Its going to be a controversy no matter what.
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If, in the example you have presented, Kentucky went 1-7 SEC + 5 non-conference wins, that is a total of 13 games. 5 non-conference wins + 1 SEC win puts them at 6 wins total and 7 losses - a losing season and, thus, not bowl-eligible if I understand the rules correctly. Is this correct?
 
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