.....over the last 60 years of watching MSU football. That Vandy is bigger, taller, and faster at every position on a team than we are. I don't know what Lea makes at Vandy, but you would think every P4 team with an opening would be backing up the Brinks truck to his house ASAP. He is a complete coach in every way. And he doesn't turn into a teenager after he goes home in the evening like Lame does. I guess since he's a Vandy grad....that they will have an inside track on keeping him in the future. Plus, their endowment at Commodoreville dwarfs most other comparable universities. I think they are better this year than any team James Franklin ever had there.
Something I never thought I would see.......
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Clark Lea’s first three years at Vandy they went 2-10, 5-7, 2-10. This board would be melting down wanting to fire him if he put up those records here.
The big thing driving Vandy now is that paying players is allowed and it wasn’t before Lea. He absolutely gets credit, but they weren’t Ole Miss-ing star recruits before NIL
You're wrong. Our punter is better than theirs.
We have better receivers and one DB. Other than that, that’s about it.
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Let’s see what they do post-Pavia.
He better be with our team.
Why, thank you, good sir. I appreciate your positive feedback on my message-board post.
Don’t look now.. but we ARE putting up those records.
Well, they may be bigger and taller but faster than 0 or 3? Yeah, i don't think so.
Once again, the difference was after that after the first three years, I’ve quoted and cited where Lea said he realized and accepted that for Vanderbilt to have a chance at competing against the rest of the conference, that they had to do things differently than everyone else. So he he ditched the spread, and hired a no hot shot assistant Tim Beck, 50-something grinder with D-II natty titles in his resume, and revamped the approach on offense. He went against hive mentality and doubled down on a niche rebuild. That’s the difference.
No it’s not. Y’all act like he’s some future first round pick. He’s not even projected to be drafted at all. And that’s the whole point of them deciding to go against the grain and run the niche scheme they run.
He may not be an NFL prospect, but he’s a helluva college QB. For you to not recognize that invalidates any points you’ve tried to make…ever.
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A lot of really good college QBs dint get drafted. It’s almost if the NFL & college football are 2 separate things.
You’re assuming something I never said. He’s a perfect fit for Tim Beck’s offense. He’s a great college quarterback in that system. It’s going to be easier for them to find and develop their style of quarterbacks in that system rather than some common spread offense. I think they’ve got a good thing going, and it started with going with a system that highlights guys like Pavia.
A couple of you on here love using the term niche offense. Vandy is running a shotgun/pistol RPO offense just like most teams out there.
They had 65 yards rushing today against KY and Pavia is their leading rusher on the season. Somehow, he’s been able to stay healthy because he sure doesn’t have a running QB body.
You responded to my post…please tell me what assumption I made in replying back.
Speaking of assumptions, you’re assuming they’ll have a Pavia-level QBs every year, are you not?
Apparently, a QB of his ability will be the norm for them going forward.
Why, thank you, good sir. I appreciate your positive feedback on my message-board post.
Who else in the SEC is running what they’re running? Their offense is considered niche or at least highly unconventional compared to most contemporary schemes because it diverges from the typical pro spread offenses seen in the SEC. It’s highly efficient with a deliberate grind it out style that’s rare in today’s fast paced college game. You think Tim Beck and Vanderbilt could have held on to a 3 score lead with under 9 minutes left unlike we did? Their philosophy is long, possession based drives rather than “scoring from far” and no huddle tempo. Beck adjusts week to week playing methodical scheme driven football tailored to Vanderbilt’s talent, and they incorporate the most triple option concepts of anyone in the conference and it’s not even close, running inside zone triple options on 15-20% of all their run plays. So yea it’s definitely niche.
IMHO, there have haven’t been many players that I’ve seen that have had a bigger impact on a team than Diego Pavia. He has Dak level leadership skills and those dudes around him believe in him. He has carried that team on his back.
And I agree about Lea. He seems like the model next generation coach. He embraced this new era of building a roster by hiring Barton Simmons. Followed by Jerry Kill and Tim Beck who brought in Pavia. Lea seems like he is built to last.
Actually college and NFL offenses are significantly more similar now than they were a decade or two ago. Historically the gap was wider yes, but not today. This stems from the NFL’s adoption of college offenses not the other way around. Shotgun snaps are 70% in both levels, up from 40% in the NFL 2010. Rookie leashes are shorter, as 6 first round college QBs in 2024 thrived faster in today’s NFL college style game. So back to Vanderbilt and Pavia. This makes him even more of an absolute niche system superstar thriving in a niche system that does not translate to the NFL.
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I never thought I’d see Vandy care enough to do it. That being said they always had the money to bury the rest of the SEC if they had wanted too. The rumor is they want to now. They waited too late, to finish above third. That they are absolutely capable of laying most of us in our graves athletically. They can’t bury the Texas schools and their oil money.
I was thinking that too while watching their game vs UK. Will be interesting to see if they can come close to replacing Pavia. If they just get a QB half as good as him, they should have a winning season.
Vandy being a private university sort of hides what they really have. They don't have to report their financials to the SEC like the rest of us do. You just have to guess, I guess. I hear from reliable sources that their endowment is really stout.
Partially correct. They were buying players before like everyone else. Especially in baseball. However, the University endowment wasn't allowed to get involved. Someone posted how they have grown their finances at Vandy. Now they are a player with NIL.
