SPD/ABC

[DerHntr]

it looks like there are about 100 loopholes. the 1984 drinking laws "requires military installation commanders to adopt the same drinking age as the state in which the military base is located. The only exception to this rule is if the base is located within 50 miles of Canada or Mexico, or a state with a lower drinking age, the installation commander may adopt the lower drinking age for military personnel on base." and it says on base out of country you can be 18.

so at home in say MS it would be 21 but in Iraq it would be 18.

guess i should do my homework

/but when off base and back home for a weekend with the family it is illegal for military personnel to drink. so they have to go back to being incapable of handling alcohol.

 

[GABully24]

But the cops walk in and say they got a noise complaint from our neighbor. I asked which neighbor and he said it didn't matter. My roommate then spouts off, All our neighbors are here. The cop then put one of my roommates in handcuffs. They told us everyone had to leave that instant and they didn't care if we had DDs to take them home. So the cops forced people to drive drunk or get arrested. Marvelous police work.

I actually think I was at this party, and if it was not the same, I had a very similar occurrence. I could hardly hear the music standing about 30 feet away from the stereo. I doubt the neighbors were complaining. In reality, the cops saw a bunch (7 or 8) of cars parked on the street outside of a college house and decided to check it out. Maybe I am wrong, and there really was a complaint, but the whole situation seemed pretty suspect.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

in our day. What got you a stern lecture in '82 gets you arrested in '08. This town used to help young adults mature. Now they get records.

You have no idea just how accurate that statement is.

 

[futaba.79]

I know exactly how accurate it is.

 

[cowbell9]

..and believe it or not, he didnt carry a gun. He was a true Andy if there ever was one. He helped me out of a couple of jams. but believe me, he dressed me down to where I was so ashamed of myself that I never did it again. Great Chief.

 

[Bulldog Backer]

It doesn't matter what State you are in, the laws of the state apply on the military base located in that state. That applies not only to drinking age but to other issues, for example, age of consent, definition of emancipated minor, etc. However, U.S. Federal Military Installations located on foreign soil are considered under jurisdiction of the Uniformed Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). However, the military base frequently follows the local laws and traditions with respect to drinking age, etc, based on the issues addressed in the Status of Forces Agreement with the foreign country.

 

[Bdog9090]

Unless you get it mailed from home, which is what I did. The military, in foreign countries, adapts to the rules and laws of that country. In Iraq, like most Muslim countries, it is illegal to drink, therefore, the military can't drink either.

I'm not a 100% sure what the rule is on military bases. I know in Mississippi and Kentucky, you can't buy alcohol on a military base until 21. Don't know if that is the standard for all bases tho.

 

[whistlerdog]

I was at MSU from 80 through 84 when the drinking age was 18 for beer. My daughter is a junior at MSU now and the times have definitely changed. The ABC "swat" style raids at the bar and even private parties using unnecessary intimidation tactics in order to meet their MIP quotas are ridiculous. We have also experienced some of the young SPD officers showing up at parties on the pretense of "noise complaints" only to loiter around hitting on the young ladies and offering them "rides" in the squad car. A MIP is a serious matter and is a criminal record (unless expunged) that would have to be truthfully reported on any employment application, grad school, law school or medical school application.

 

[bulldogbaja]

You act like it is. Now I got an MIP a couple years ago, but I can fully admit it was my own fault. That's the risk you run, and if you get caught suck it up because it's your own fault. Other than that I agree with your post.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

I don't think I've ever been asked about a misdemeanor.

 

[graddawg]

applications ask about everything, expunged or not. I have friends who have been given the runaround for months, if not years, by different Bar Associations for not disclosing simple MIPs on their law school applications and/or bar applications. Even the simple, silly offenses can cause major headaches.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

I can't imagine a med school keeping you out for that, but I suppose it could be a tie breaker.

 

[graddawg]

It's not so much the getting into school, it's the being admitted to practice after spending all the money to graduate.

 

[MSUHistory]

Part of the problem is that students who do follow the law, that is leave their cars and walk home, get busted for public drunk. I know a guy who walked out of a bar to his house across the street and was on his porch when the SPD pulled into his driveway and arrested him for public drunk.

I honestly believe the Public Drunk law makes it so students WILL Drink and Drive, because they are less of a target...</p>

 

[TheNewMSU]

and it was a ticket for speeding on 12. I probably was going a few miles over but the way he stopped me was kind of shady. He didn't even have me on radar, just said he estimated that I was speeding by about 10 mph. I ended up paying the ticket because a college student has little to no chance of winning that one in court but oh well. I am sure there a few unfortunate and uncalled for occurrences but they aren't perfect and are humans too.

I myself liked to go out and party with friends, quite often.....and we never had the first problem with the SPD. In fact, most of them were pretty nice. Most of the people having problems with them are probably just immature brats who need to be taught a lesson anyway.

 

[VirgilCain]

cause that exact thing happened at a party I had. I had a late night several years ago and the cops came. When I saw them in my house I went up to the first one and told him that we would get everyone out of there. Before I even finished my sentence I had handcuffs on and was arrested for "disturbing the peace." Three friends, including two roomates asked why I was being arrested and they were immediately cuffed. The four of us spent the night in the clink. It was so ridiculous that I wasn't even mad... it was a pretty hilarious night in the drunk tank.

Also like yall, they scattered the party so there is no telling how many drove drunk away from my house.

 

[ErickaDampier25]

Thats the biggest thing..you cant win with those asshats..they are going to nail you if its the last thing they do..even if you are of age..you drive, and they bust your *** for DUI, and if you walk, they pull up 6 cop cars and a SWAT team like David Berkowitz himself is in the group youre walking with..it is absurd how much these douchenozzles get their jollies to arresting college kids..its all about one thing in Starkville..producing revenue..giving bull **** tickets, while definitely warranted in some cases, is a huge revenue source for a city with few revenue streams..

 

[Bdog9090]

and I got to tell you, they don't do it just because of the money. The Federal government floods local law enforcement with money. They don't really need the extra money. They're just a bunch of asshats that get their rocks off by 17ing with college kids cause they were picked on by a majority of high school populace. Sean Word is a prime example.

 

[patdog]

Because they don't ever see any of the fines. What they do do for the money is confiscate assets under the asset forfeiture laws. They get to keep all of that money (or property), and they don't even have to prove that they had a valid reason for confiscating it. The burden of proof is on who they took it from to prove they were completely innocent.

I guess it's time for the lock now. Sorry bout that.

 

[TnDawg76]

I lived in a house across from the Baptist church, which was also a sand wedge away from the police station. We had parties about once a month during normal months and once a week during football season. These parties normally had anywhere from 75-150 people, a couple even more than that. People parked in the church parking lot and up and down Washington St. We even had kegs outside on the front porch. Our parties never were busted up. In fact, the cops showed up once at like 2 am after it had basically died down and were laughing at some guy who was passed out in his truck with the door open. They only asked if we would take him inside and close his truck up. Super nice guys at the time.

 

[jmbeck]

I was at State from 2000 - 2002, and we had damned good times. Never had trouble with the law though.

Graddawg, I'm assuming your lil bro is having the same time we had, does he mention this?

 

[graddawg]

It's a mixed-bag with him. He got two MIPs within his first two years in Starkville but he doesn't blame anyone other than himself as he was the one guilty of underage drinking in a bar and carrying beer to a vehicle when he was only 20. I guess our parents did a better job of teaching personal accountability than some of the parents of those bitching in this thread.

Now he has a house in a very visible part of town and throws at least one party a month. He hasn't had any problems with the cops yet.

 

[graddawg]

I lived in a house across from the Baptist church, which was also a sand wedge away from the police station. We had parties about once a month during normal months and once a week during football season. These parties normally had anywhere from 75-150 people, a couple even more than that. People parked in the church parking lot and up and down Washington St. We even had kegs outside on the front porch. Our parties never were busted up. In fact, the cops showed up once at like 2 am after it had basically died down and were laughing at some guy who was passed out in his truck with the door open. They only asked if we would take him inside and close his truck up. Super nice guys at the time.

You didn't happen to live with guys from Calhoun/Chickasaw County did you?

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

T Oh it was last week in the month... can you say QUOTA??</p>

And the first thing the Chief of Police or Sheriff of any state of county will tell you is that "oh we don't have a quota... quota's are illegial" But look what I got through e-mail one time proving that Booneville, MS cops have a quota established by that Chief of Police. Look at the last 4 lines of paragraph 8 in this document
http://i233.photobucket.c...eyfife_photos/quota1.jpg

 

[TnDawg76]

n/m

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Maybe, if you go to a bar, or have a real loud party in Starkville, and it seems like the Starkville police are busting in on your fun, you might want to change what you're doing. "Waal, maaaybaeey eef we's un drank a kaaeeg aaannnd blare Motley Crue music theeiss taaahm, 'th Poooleeece maht nawt come."

That's sort of like a girl going back to her abusive boyfriend.....or MState fans buying football season tickets. You really think something new's gonna happen?