Spinzone: Penn St was 3-2

[CornCobBert]

This time last year, Penn State was 3-2 coming off an OT win over Minnesota. Written off after a loss to Pitt and being crushed by Michigan, you know how their season finished.

Now to Nebraska. The defense is looking better every quarter and Tanner Lee threw 3 TDs with no INTs last game and 70.8% completion.

Conclusion: We are Penn State....2016?

Discuss.

 

[Chief Wiggum_rivals246870]

This time last year, Penn State was 3-2 coming off an OT win over Minnesota. Written off after a loss to Pitt and being crushed by Michigan, you know how their season finished.

Now to Nebraska. The defense is looking better every quarter and Tanner Lee threw 3 TDs with no INTs last game and 70.8% completion.

Conclusion: We are Penn State....2016?

Discuss.

No

/discussion

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Well...PSU has the coach that NU should have went after...so...that is something

 

[timnsun]

This time last year, Penn State was 3-2 coming off an OT win over Minnesota. Written off after a loss to Pitt and being crushed by Michigan, you know how their season finished.

Now to Nebraska. The defense is looking better every quarter and Tanner Lee threw 3 TDs with no INTs last game and 70.8% completion.

Conclusion: We are Penn State....2016?

Discuss.

I appreciate the similarities on the surface, but we gotta get through this week before I could even entertain this scenario playing out like Penn State of last year.

 

[SoFL Husker]

This time last year, Penn State was 3-2 coming off an OT win over Minnesota. Written off after a loss to Pitt and being crushed by Michigan, you know how their season finished.

Now to Nebraska. The defense is looking better every quarter and Tanner Lee threw 3 TDs with no INTs last game and 70.8% completion.

Conclusion: We are Penn State....2016?

Discuss.

Lol

GBR

 

[SoFL Husker]

Lol

GBR

Let's go Chiefs!

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

do we really want a 64 year old coach with no championships to coach out of his mind just to win 8 games, then get a reup, and have a contract at NU until he is 66...the age is a big thing for me...the head coach has to make a great impression on 17 year old boys and the player has to imagine playing for that coach 5-6 years in the future...that is difficult when your coach will be over 70 when you graduate. Especially when there isn't a system of greatness already in place. The worst thing to happen is the have Riley retire and we are stuck with one of his assistants, we need to do what the cubs did....keep Riley on until we have the perfect coach available for us...dump Riley and grab the golden goose.

 

[CornCobBert]

Disclaimer: I did title it with "Spinzone".

Ice cube vs. Hell had better odds than PSU had against Ohio State last year. 19.5 point dogs to be exact.

Nebraska is roughly a 12 point underdog against Wisconsin. Yes, Wisconsin is not Ohio State.

Of course we will all know more after each game, but the boys in Scarlet and Cream are playing better, especially on defense.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

Pederson II

 

[Headcard]

Well...PSU has the coach that NU should have went after...so...that is something

I'm sure they were real happy with him after 7-6, 7-6 and a 3-2 start last year. And it's not like he set the world on fire at Vandy. What he did was hire a great OC that got them over the hump and inherit some big time talents in Barkley and McSorley.

 

[chicolby]

do we really want a 64 year old coach with no championships to coach out of his mind just to win 8 games, then get a reup, and have a contract at NU until he is 66...the age is a big thing for me...the head coach has to make a great impression on 17 year old boys and the player has to imagine playing for that coach 5-6 years in the future...that is difficult when your coach will be over 70 when you graduate. Especially when there isn't a system of greatness already in place. The worst thing to happen is the have Riley retire and we are stuck with one of his assistants, we need to do what the cubs did....keep Riley on until we have the perfect coach available for us...dump Riley and grab the golden goose.

Except that's not exactly how the Cubs did it. They went through multiple managers. Dale Sveum for a few years. Then they brought in Rick Renteria for only one season when Maddon's contract ran up and he didn't renew. Epstein did go after the golden goose immediately even without Renteria necessarily underperforming. The team was full of rookies and not nearly the pitching Maddon inherited.

 

[barney44]

We don't have Franklin and we don't have Barkley chewing up defenders..

 

[chicolby]

I don't think Franklin is a brilliant coach. I think he inherited a lot of talent that signed with Bill O'Brien.

He was never known for being an offensive mind and frankly I think if he was announced at Nebraska, the reaction would have been about the same as when Riley was announced.

 

[stonesak]

Remember when Bo Pelini was 4-3 in his third season with losses to Virginia Tech, a blowout against TTU, and an absolutely embarrassing meltdown at home against an Iowa St team that would lose to this year's NIU? Good thing we fired the AD responsible for hiring that loser and hired the hot young former Nebraska QB who had turned a moribund mid-major program into a conference champion.

 

[HuskerO58]

Well...PSU has the coach that NU should have went after...so...that is something

No way anyone at Nebraska was saying that last year about Franklin after PSU got their butts whipped against Michigan. Franklin had accomplished nothing at PSU at that point.

 

[Anon1654767511]

This time last year, Penn State was 3-2 coming off an OT win over Minnesota. Written off after a loss to Pitt and being crushed by Michigan, you know how their season finished.

Now to Nebraska. The defense is looking better every quarter and Tanner Lee threw 3 TDs with no INTs last game and 70.8% completion.

Conclusion: We are Penn State....2016?

Discuss.

Well if you had Joe Moorhead as your OC, a Heisman Trophy caliber running back like Saquan Barkley, an All American TE like Mike Gesicki, a duel threat QB like Trace McSorely, and a little luck like PSU had last year, you very well could be the 2017 version of PSU.

I've watched a couple of your games this year and in particular Mike Reilly's body language and demeanor on the sidelines and I don't think I've ever seen a more unemotional and passive HC anywhere. Quite the opposite of the master motivator James Franklin. Really looking forward to your team and fan's return to Beaver stadium this year.

 

[timnsun]

Well if you had Joe Moorhead as your OC, a Heisman Trophy caliber running back like Saquan Barkley, an All American TE like Mike Gesicki, a duel threat QB like Trace McSorely, and a little luck like PSU had last year, you very well could be the 2017 version of PSU.

I've watched a couple of your games this year and in particular Mike Reilly's body language and demeanor on the sidelines and I don't think I've ever seen a more unemotional and passive HC anywhere. Quite the opposite of the master motivator James Franklin. Really looking forward to your team and fan's return to Beaver stadium this year.

Thanks for the dose of reality.

 

[stonesak]

Well if you had Joe Moorhead as your OC, a Heisman Trophy caliber running back like Saquan Barkley, an All American TE like Mike Gesicki, a duel threat QB like Trace McSorely, and a little luck like PSU had last year, you very well could be the 2017 version of PSU.

I've watched a couple of your games this year and in particular Mike Reilly's body language and demeanor on the sidelines and I don't think I've ever seen a more unemotional and passive HC anywhere. Quite the opposite of the master motivator James Franklin. Really looking forward to your team and fan's return to Beaver stadium this year.

Watched your All-Americans struggle to beat a mediocre Iowa team. Enjoy your brief stay in the top ten.

 

[Phillipe]

Remember when Bo Pelini was 4-3 in his third season with losses to Virginia Tech, a blowout against TTU, and an absolutely embarrassing meltdown at home against an Iowa St team that would lose to this year's NIU? Good thing we fired the AD responsible for hiring that loser and hired the hot young former Nebraska QB who had turned a moribund mid-major program into a conference champion.

Well, if Bo already had a losing season and his AD had hired an old coach with a mediocre career record, then, yeah, that would be a good analogy.

If we could play Illinois every week, sure we could be just like PSU last year.

 

[jrhuskerdad_rivals491985]

Ain't happening, but if it does (we go undefeated during regular season, win B1G title and appear in Rose Bowl), I will literally eat a real crow. In fact, look for a pile of black feathers in the parking lot outside the Rose Bowl because I will be barbecuing them up for everyone to enjoy.

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

I'm sure they were real happy with him after 7-6, 7-6 and a 3-2 start last year. And it's not like he set the world on fire at Vandy. What he did was hire a great OC that got them over the hump and inherit some big time talents in Barkley and McSorley.

McSorley is overrated and people out here are really starting to grumble about the offense. Last week's final score against Indiana was deceptive. They got three touchdowns out of special teams and turnovers. They moved the ball on offense but struggled big time in the red zone. Against a team with a real defense like Michigan they will be in trouble, just like they were against Iowa

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

Well if you had Joe Moorhead as your OC, a Heisman Trophy caliber running back like Saquan Barkley, an All American TE like Mike Gesicki, a duel threat QB like Trace McSorely, and a little luck like PSU had last year, you very well could be the 2017 version of PSU.

I've watched a couple of your games this year and in particular Mike Reilly's body language and demeanor on the sidelines and I don't think I've ever seen a more unemotional and passive HC anywhere. Quite the opposite of the master motivator James Franklin. Really looking forward to your team and fan's return to Beaver stadium this year.

I am not a huge Mike Riley fan, but do I really need to point out that some of the greatest coaches of all time were also very low key and stoic on the sideline? Tom Osborne was very stoic as was Tom Landry. I could name lots of others but you get the point. It is juvenile and superficial in the extreme to equate an animated demeanor on the sideline with good coaching. Some of the worst coaches of all time were sideline cheerleader type coaches

 

[Bill_Callahan2.0_rivals121792]

Did not realize Penn State only had 39(!) yard rushing against Indiana.

After getting almost 300 the week before @ Iowa, that seems to maybe tell us something.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

do we really want a 64 year old coach with no championships to coach out of his mind just to win 8 games, then get a reup, and have a contract at NU until he is 66...the age is a big thing for me...the head coach has to make a great impression on 17 year old boys and the player has to imagine playing for that coach 5-6 years in the future...that is difficult when your coach will be over 70 when you graduate. Especially when there isn't a system of greatness already in place. The worst thing to happen is the have Riley retire and we are stuck with one of his assistants, we need to do what the cubs did....keep Riley on until we have the perfect coach available for us...dump Riley and grab the golden goose.

People that want Riley to stay longer are scared of the Bo-ogey Man. They think that he will somehow end up back here.

Check under your bed guys. The Bo-ogey man is gone, you don't have to worry about him anymore.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

I don't think Franklin is a brilliant coach. I think he inherited a lot of talent that signed with Bill O'Brien.

He was never known for being an offensive mind and frankly I think if he was announced at Nebraska, the reaction would have been about the same as when Riley was announced.

Yep, Franklin didn't follow 408. Big difference.

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

Even if we win out and win the rose bowl we will still have a coach that is 66 at the end of his contract...is finishing 11-2 with a rose bowl worth an extended period of mediocrity.

 

[timnsun]

Even if we win out and win the rose bowl we will still have a coach that is 66 at the end of his contract...is finishing 11-2 with a rose bowl worth an extended period of mediocrity.

Are you for real?

First of all, what you propose ain’t happening... but if it did, when was the last time we won 11 games? Same year we went to the rose bowl, 2001 (2002 RB, 2001 season). It would catapult us tremendously and guys like Parsons and other big fish would jump on board, and even if Riley hit the ceiling with 11-2, it would set the table for the next guy.

So yes, it would be worth it. And BTW, 11-2 is not mediocrity.

 

[WuTang_Husker]

Even if we win out and win the rose bowl we will still have a coach that is 66 at the end of his contract...is finishing 11-2 with a rose bowl worth an extended period of mediocrity.

No I think we should hire Frost if this happens. Don't even let Riley board the plane back to Lincoln. That SOB

 

[CornCobBert]

Even if we win out and win the rose bowl we will still have a coach that is 66 at the end of his contract...is finishing 11-2 with a rose bowl worth an extended period of mediocrity.

How extended? 20 years? No. Less than 20 years? Yes.

 

[big red23]

Well if you had Joe Moorhead as your OC, a Heisman Trophy caliber running back like Saquan Barkley, an All American TE like Mike Gesicki, a duel threat QB like Trace McSorely, and a little luck like PSU had last year, you very well could be the 2017 version of PSU.

I've watched a couple of your games this year and in particular Mike Reilly's body language and demeanor on the sidelines and I don't think I've ever seen a more unemotional and passive HC anywhere. Quite the opposite of the master motivator James Franklin. Really looking forward to your team and fan's return to Beaver stadium this year.

This is probably Mike Riley's worst trait. Every shot of him when things are going bad in hands on his knees and head looking at the ground. That is a defeatist attitude, and I've seen Cav do it too.

When things get tough, you need to coach them up. Keep their heads in the game and focus. Hands on the knees and your head looking at the ground tells your players "I give up, nothing I do works!" It is funny that a Penn State fan pointed this out.

A buddy of mine said Winners find a way to win, and losers find a way to lose. I want him to be wrong about that, but Riley's body language on the sideline says to me he is right. I am pulling for him to win every game from here on out, but he isn't going to be able to do it with his head in the dirt

 

[inWV]

Lots of serious derp here. I really love the arm-chair analysis of Riley's non-verbal communication. The message from some of you has been received. Riley is the most mediocre coach in the United States of American and all is lost until the next AD removes Riley's sexagenarian grip from our football program.
The real bonus to a win-out would be to shut some of you up.

 

[timnsun]

Lots of serious derp here. I really love the arm-chair analysis of Riley's non-verbal communication. The message from some of you has been received. Riley is the most mediocre coach in the United States of American and all is lost until the next AD removes Riley's sexagenarian grip from our football program.
The real bonus to a win-out would be to shut some of you up.

I tend to agree with you...

There is something to be said for body language, I get that, but we have entire threads devoted to body language and how tired/disinterested/defeated/fill in the blank he looks. Might be a stretch to look at these nonverbals and say he’s checked out.

Maybe others are right, who knows? Just think we have a tendency to read into things a bit too much at times. Myself included.

 

[inWV]

I tend to agree with you...

There is something to be said for body language, I get that, but we have entire threads devoted to body language and how tired/disinterested/defeated/fill in the blank he looks. Might be a stretch to look at these nonverbals and say he’s checked out.

Maybe others are right, who knows? Just think we have a tendency to read into things a bit too much at times. Myself included.

Never been a fan of those who take potshots from the cheap seats. Of course Riley has made mistakes. But failure to convey the proper body language on the field isn't one of them. Maybe there'd be less bitching had he just gone with one of the younger guys and told Lee thanks but not thanks on the transfer. Instead, he attempted to get a bridge to the new guys with a more experienced QB. Would we rather the camera pans to him after a contentious call to watch the explosion ala Pelini?

 

[zwick53]

I don't think Franklin is a brilliant coach. I think he inherited a lot of talent that signed with Bill O'Brien.

He was never known for being an offensive mind and frankly I think if he was announced at Nebraska, the reaction would have been about the same as when Riley was announced.

Your info could not be further from the truth. Obrien's recruiting classes were during the sanctions and probably PSU's two lowest rated back to back classes EVER.

 

[chicolby]

Your info could not be further from the truth. Obrien's recruiting classes were during the sanctions probably PSU's two lowest rated back to back classes EVER.

Everyone has an opinion.

Time for Bill O'Brien to get some credit for his recruiting at Penn State

 

[gfour18]

Everyone has an opinion.

Time for Bill O'Brien to get some credit for his recruiting at Penn State

LOL!!! The day franklin was hired psu had 16 composite four stars and 1 five star. Right now they have 33 four stars and 1 five star and the 2018 rivals class currently has 23 commits with 17 four stars and the last couple of spots will easily be at least 4 stars . By comparison nebraska currently has 16 composite four stars. Ohio State 56 four stars and 7 five stars, Alabama 51 four stars and 18 five stars. That is quite an advantage. What if Riley was coaching bama's roster? Franklin is in year 4 and the starters are almost all franklin recruits . Within a week of his hire he flipped blacknall from rutgers and then the following year he flipped barkley from rutgers.They are not there yet and i see a couple losses this year but he is definitely heading them in the right direction. Recruiting is EVERYTHING....Instead of trying to find the next Tommy Osborne....go find the next Tommy Frazier

 

[Huskercigar]

Lots of serious derp here. I really love the arm-chair analysis of Riley's non-verbal communication. The message from some of you has been received. Riley is the most mediocre coach in the United States of American and all is lost until the next AD removes Riley's sexagenarian grip from our football program.
The real bonus to a win-out would be to shut some of you up.

Well its not like 18-14 with a bunch of blow outs, a probably big loss this week and a finish of mediocrity or less has shut you guys up.

 

[Huskercigar]

Never been a fan of those who take potshots from the cheap seats. Of course Riley has made mistakes. But failure to convey the proper body language on the field isn't one of them. Maybe there'd be less bitching had he just gone with one of the younger guys and told Lee thanks but not thanks on the transfer. Instead, he attempted to get a bridge to the new guys with a more experienced QB. Would we rather the camera pans to him after a contentious call to watch the explosion ala Pelini?

So lets see......you aren't a fan of potshots from the cheap seats........nor that of conveying proper body language but you make a point of comparing it to a Pelini explosion. Got it.