You are correct for academic year '24-'25....they only get 75% reduction! But do your work and look up academic years in the 1970s....
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The link is already here in this topic post.....try reading and learning.
That is a common perk for faculty at most higher education venues.
The BWI fraternity of Joe Paterno haters is so small they now feel the need to create multiple new user names to make themselves feel like have formed a "Chapter".
@Moogy = @NorthernStatePSU = @Corneliuswonder = @BlueRedBull = @Nothing Special =
@ThePennsyOracle is a moniker from the old board. I'm uncertain if the it's really him or if someone from the above list spoofed his name in their cause. That said, the former "PennsyOracle" didn't like Joepa either.
@StamfordBridgeVikingatLeftOffensiveTackle is a rather strange individual. He once proudly claimed to reside in State College yet dislikes anything "Paterno". Yet somehow he allowed one of his offspring to attend same. Disgruntled faculty member needing free tuition?
Do two or three JoePa (and Barry and Anthony) haters really represent anything?
The people who run this site know my name and/or have met me in person (in person exemption is Sean but even then I’ve met Sean’s parents at a tailgate).
You’re deranged.
Don’t engage him in a serious manner. He’s a wannabe doxxing troll, nothing more. Don’t divulge any personal information to him. He’s only to be toyed with.
F off D*ckhead. First off. I didn’t see a link. If you are referring to Barry’s post, who witnessed this exchange? Or is it just hearsay by Lubrano? Second, I didn’t come at you…ever. So, take your attitude and shove it. I asked a simple question. If you’re that edgy about the situation, maybe you should step back and reevaluate the importance of posting on a message board to you.
How about we just take the amount that Joe was underpaid for each year from Let’s say 1985 through 2005 and with a minimal rate of return, let’s calculate what that would be worth today. And then besides the man giving the university quite a deal with his salary, (same with many of his assistants) he never asked or needed any other necessary items that other big time schools had. The amount that he saved them during his time as head coach versus what other schools were doing could have that stadium paid for already.
Should not the full representatives of the University step up? After all, without Joe their jobs would be the equivalent to a grammar school board?
You almost seem important.
Why do you hate Joe Paterno and why would you brag about almost knowing someone named Sean?
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And then we'll subtract out the cost of the Sandusky scandal.
We get it. You don't really care about JoePa. You just want to b!tch and moan, like you're a poor student who won't take responsibility for his poor performance in grammar school.
But the reason that football facilities were still high school standard when O'brien got here were because of what you're saying. They were working with Nautilus machines with Joe. It's amazing how well they did with what they had but him saving money is why we're where we're at now.
I’ve actually never been to this board before. I stick to the pay site. But I’m glad I stopped by because now I am convinced that the folks who want to honor Paterno by naming something have zero intention of financially contributing anything. They are just going to complain with lifting a finger (or paying a dollar).
Whatever they were using, our line play just trucked other teams most years.
Now they've managed to turn the Paterno era into the 'We deserved better' category.
Yes, of course. It was Joe's fault. We're surrounded by idiots.
Well, where will you turn if spending 700 million doesn't produce what Joe did?
My prediction: Fire Franklin...still nothing: Fire Kraft......Fire everyone.
First of all, the pay site is worthless other than you get some insight and information a day or two earlier than it leaks everywhere else. Sometimes not even that. But, you have the same mix of opinions there. Apparently you are easily convinced. Naming the field for Joe would have exceeded 50 million dollars over 15 years easily! There....I'm convinced of that.....and I frequent both boards. I like Kraft and I really like how he has been in lock step with James. However, you will never convince me that had he received marching orders from the BOT...."we want to name the field after Joe, come back to us with some concrete figures........there would have been a significant amount of money.
The process appears to have been "in order to end the nonsense about naming the field after Joe.....get us an offer.....so we can claim this was a financial decision."
Bless your heart.
You are the "we deserved better" folks in this instance. "We raised $50M!" "Oh, we deserved better! I have no doubt we could have raised more if we had honored JoePa!"
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Oh, hypocrisy ... thy name is Marshall2323.
Your whole shtick on here is mocking others because they should dare not question coach's decisions, because these peons are in no position to suggest something else would have worked.
Yet, here you are, with no evidence to support your theory, backseat driving the BoT's decision, by suggesting you know imaginary funds would have been raised. This is cult thinking. You have ZERO evidence to support the assertion that money would have been there, yet you’re fully convinced. “You have to believe in the power of JoePa!” “Through JoePa, all things are possible!”
Again, if JoePa’s disciples would have been able to raise cash to honor him … through all these years that they’ve had this opportunity … they would have. Barry, for example, had no problems passing the collection plate and begging for handouts to bring a lawsuit in his personal vanity project, and that should have just been a drop in the bucket, since that didn’t directly honor thy lord - it was only an ancillary project to punish non-believers.
At this very moment, nothing is stopping you from organizing something and collecting monies in order to conditionally fund a memorial project in thy lord’s name … but that would require doing something positive … and we know you guys don’t actually want that. You just want to cry and attempt to make others as miserable as you feel, even though they raised $50M to benefit the football program.
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So, once again, when it comes to actually doing the work you expect others to do it for you. You expect other people to prove you right rather than proving yourself right.
Laziness, across the board, from this crowd.
Speaking of which you need to up your game again. You took a step up but once again have fallen back on hard times... Come on fella take some pride in your trolling....
Did your mama ever teach you not to insult people you don't know or know anything about?
I don't need to "do my work". I know what I am talking about. I (and my siblings) attended Penn State in the 1970's as children of parents who worked for Penn State. We received a 75% discount on tuition - everything else (room and board, books, etc.) was full cost. Neither we nor the Paterno children attended Penn State "for free".
If you have children, pass that above life lesson on to them so they become better people than their father.
The personal attacks are a bit out of hand on this thread
One thing we might be able to agree on is that there is a long way to go until all Penn Staters are pulling in the same direction
We can debate where the blame lies, but the divide is a chasm and it's hard to see it getting resolved any time soon. If anything, it has grown over the last 14 years (clearly was not a distant memory by 2014 like Ms. Peetz predicted)
One thing we might be able to agree on is that there is a long way to go until all Penn Staters are pulling in the same direction
We can debate where the blame lies, but the divide is a chasm and it's hard to see it getting resolved any time soon. If anything, it has grown over the last 14 years (clearly was not a distant memory by 2014 like Ms. Peetz predicted)
Here's the problem you face - you're running out of time. And, instead of promoting a message of positivity, all you're doing is creating one that will ensure you stay on the wrong side of this chasm you created. And all this negativity - pettiness, anger, jealousy ... you manifested it in the form of Barry. He comes off as a weak, whining bitter impotent little boy. No one will listen to him pout and be persuaded to join your cause - instead, he'll alienate reasonable people. This was largely inevitable when you took the positive message of JoePa and the Grand Experiment, and tied it to trying to tear down the BoT and anyone else who you feel is not a true believer.
Meanwhile, time is not on your side ... we all age and, eventually, head to the Great Unknown ... and as those holding JoePa dearest "age out," they are replaced by those who are not tied to the JoePa mythology. You need to create something positive, and FAST. Stop attacking others, and blaming others, and expecting others to do the things you're supposed to be doing.
If these hundreds of thousands of alumni are just sitting there waiting to be mobilized, and to fund whatever it is you want funded ... get going and mobilize them.
"You have ZERO evidence to support the assertion that money would have been there...." Likewise you have ZERO evidence that the money would NOT have been there.
You always enter into intellectual gun battles with a water pistol.
Dang, you got me. I have zero evidence. Well, except that the money ISN'T there.
Marshall2323: "Welcome to Logic class with your teacher, Marshall2323 ... before we start, I just want you all to know, that I could jump up and touch the moon."
Moogy: "No, you couldn't. That's impossible."
Marshall2323: "I can cite myself as saying I can earlier, so there."
Moogy: "You have no evidence to support your contention. If you could do it, you would."
Marshall2323: "Hah! You have no evidence that I can't! You always enter into intellectual gun battles with a water pistol."
Moogy: "Someone allowed this guy to ever instruct children on anything?"
Yikes. Sit down, gym teacher.
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Teachers can change lives (not a PE teacher either). But they can't cure stupid. You are living proof.
Just as you mock others for questioning coaches' decisions, I can mock you for trying to think. It's not your thing.
$50M was raised, and the field will be renamed West Shore Home Field at Beaver Stadium. That's reality. Appreciate it. Enjoy it. Don't be bitter that you couldn't raise the money to rename it something else. Don't be childish and cry that you totally could have done it, you just didn't ... and it's someone else's fault you didn't. If I need help in teaching someone how to run headfirst into someone else, I'll give you a holler. Otherwise, we're all set.
We don't need you trying to tell us that there's no evidence the money couldn't be raised the way you wanted, when the money WASN'T raised.
You get credit for commitment, hard work and dedication.What about me?
He just earned the position with natural talent.
For once, you said something that was correct. By accident. I can take a knee, and let the clock run out, because I won on the merits. And I'm definitely out of your league. How could you be that bad at basic logic? That was crazy. "There's no evidence we couldn't raise the money." "You mean, except for the fact that you didn't raise the money?" LOL. Shouldn't you be hitting the (virtual) phones, and rounding up donations from your fellow JoeBots to gather enough cash to name something after the messiah? Times a wastin', speedy. Or are you just going to sit around, whining and moaning, while you wait for someone else to do something, and then you'll criticize them and say you could have done it better?
First of all, I don’t trust anyone. I only believe things I can see. Here one side has $50 million. The other side promises the money but only after they get the thing they want. And they can’t tell you where the money would come from.
you don’t have to be a good businessman to make that choice.
My assertion was that the trustees had no interest in finding out what kind of revenue a Paterno field campaign could generate.
That is not good business.