Stans' comments on Deville

[msudawg200]

This from the daily journal:

On DeVille Smith's return: "He is back in school
today, and he will be back at practice this afternoon. When he plays?
Well, <span style="font-weight: bold;">I haven’t made that decision yet</span>, we’ll just have to see where
he’s at and we’ll leave it at that."

I may be reading more into this than what is there, but if this were truly about his health and not Moultrieknee, wouldn't he have said "the doctors haven't made that decision yet" or something along those lines? Not to mention the fact that he's practicing, which isn't the same as playing a game, but it is similar, no?

 

[msudawg200]

This from the daily journal:

On DeVille Smith's return: "He is back in school
today, and he will be back at practice this afternoon. When he plays?
Well, <span style="font-weight: bold;">I haven’t made that decision yet</span>, we’ll just have to see where
he’s at and we’ll leave it at that."

I may be reading more into this than what is there, but if this were truly about his health and not Moultrieknee, wouldn't he have said "the doctors haven't made that decision yet" or something along those lines? Not to mention the fact that he's practicing, which isn't the same as playing a game, but it is similar, no?

 

[Coach34]

because he says I just make **** up

 

[Johnson85]

<p style="margin-left: 40px;">"Right now I'm not even concerned about the basketball part of it," Stansbury said. "That's not even a concern, when he'll play. I have no idea when that'll happen. We'll just have to wait and see."</p><div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;">
</div>If this is really a disciplinary issue, it kind of sucks that he hasn't indicated anything before today. I can understand not being able to get into any specifics regarding anything remotely touching health, but especially with having lost a player recently, if they've let people think it was questionable whether his health would allow to play again when it's the disciplinary reasons that will potentially keep him from coming back, that's pretty ******.

 

[msudawg200]

That's the one point that's difficult for me to get past. People are genuinely concerned for his health and well-being. It would seem pretty low to label it the way they have if it was actually disciplinary. I'm still not 100% convinced either way that it is/is not disciplinary, but I did think that quote was interesting.

 

[patdog]

Do you think Stans owes us a detailed description of every disciplary problem he has to deal with? He doesn't. Has it even occurred to you that it could be both a disciplinary problem and a health problem? It's obvious what is going on here in general, even though we don't really know all the specifics. Let's just hope it works out OK, both for Smith and for MSU. No need for Stans to make all of Smith's personal issues public knowledge.

 

[tenureplan]

If I were doing something stupid that led to a major health concern, people close to me would first be worried about the health issue, but the stupidity would have to be addressed once I got better.

 

[Hanmudog]

Are you guys insinuating that Stansbury hospitalized a player to hide a suspension?<div>
</div><div>If a player has a health issue that is not basketball related then it is none of anyone's business and they do not deserve to have their private matters scrutinized by a bunch of strangers on a message board.</div>

 

[Johnson85]

Do you think Stans owes us a detailed description of every disciplary problem he has to deal with? He doesn't...No need for Stans to make all of Smith's personal issues public knowledge.

If it's not a health issue that's keeping Smith out, it's ****** to let people worry that he might have serious health problems. No reason for Stansbury to air any dirty laundry, just say that Smith is out for undisclosed violations of team rules. Call me crazy, but the hundreds/thousands of times other teams have done that makes me think it would be a viable option. Or hell, just say the health issues are no longer keeping Smith from playing, but that the coaches and Deville are having discussions about whether playing at State is best for Deville. <div>
</div><div>I have no clue if Smith is out for disciplinary or health reasons or both, but Stansbury's quote about Stansbury not having decided when Smith will come back implies that it is no longer a health issue that's keeping him off the floor. I hope that's the case, but if it is, it kind of sucks if they are not letting people know that Deville's health is no longer at risk. They wouldn't owe anybody that information if they hadn't initially put out information indicating there was a potentially serious health issue, but since they have, it's not too much to ask to let people know Dewville is ok.</div>

 

[dawgs.sixpack]

i think you are reading to much into the comment. stans gets the reports from the doctors, sees how deville is practicing and getting his legs back under him, and stans makes the ultimate decision when to insert him back into the rotation.

you can put the tin foil hat away.

 

[patdog]

There's no doubt he has a health issue. It's not like anyone's lying to us about that. And for the record, drug addiction is a health problem (as well as a discipline problem), so even if that's what the problem is, it's still not like anyone's lying to us about it.

 

[tenureplan]

nm</p>

 

[Chesusdog]

with your ability to glean information and know things without a doubt that no one, even the national media, even suspects. First Moultrie, now D Smith. Very impressive.

 

[coachwater39atauburn]

nm

 

[shsdawg]

Stans can't discuss itor even confirm or deny it existsunless Smith gives him the OK to do so in writing. That ANY would also include the one that seems to be being insinuated by many here because he was hospitalized for it, whatever it was.

 

[shsdawg]

it's not a civil law thing. You don't just go to court and if you lose you and your insurance company pay the plantiff (although that can ceratianly happen). It's criminal law. If you lose you go to jail and earn the title of convicted felon.

 

[Ol Blue.sixpack]

Do you think Stans owes us a detailed description of every disciplary problem he has to deal with? He doesn't. Has it even occurred to you that it could be both a disciplinary problem and a health problem? It's obvious what is going on here in general, even though we don't really know all the specifics. Let's just hope it works out OK, both for Smith and for MSU. No need for Stans to make all of Smith's personal issues public knowledge.

It is amazing to mehow some people think college sports issupposed to be so transparent that the school owes it to the fans to disclose every little detail about everything that goes on day-to-day.

Stick to watching the games and forget about everything else.

 

[Coach34]

with your ability to glean information and know things without a doubt that no one, even the national media, even suspects. First Moultrie, now D Smith. Very impressive.

someone that writes checks- nothing more, nothing less. Sometimes I can talk about it, sometimes I cant. Deville is one of those I cant

 

[fishwater99]

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[kimmer]

This from the daily journal:

On DeVille Smith's return: "He is back in school
today, and he will be back at practice this afternoon. When he plays?
Well, <span style="font-weight: bold;">I haven’t made that decision yet</span>, we’ll just have to see where
he’s at and we’ll leave it at that."

I may be reading more into this than what is there, but if this were truly about his health and not Moultrieknee, wouldn't he have said "the doctors haven't made that decision yet" or something along those lines? Not to mention the fact that he's practicing, which isn't the same as playing a game, but it is similar, no?

He has been cleared by the docs to play (hence he is practicing) but he has been out of commission for some time and while he may be physically able to play there is some question as to his quality of performance. Stans just wants to make sure when he plays him he can make a positive contribution. Also, probably wants to make sure his problem doesn't crop back up once he gets going again.

 

[lawdawg02]

Maybe you're talking about something other than the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act...

/I think a "HIPPA expert" nickname is in order.

 

[Shmuley]

nm

 

[shsdawg]

or anything else for that matter, but my office kills a lot of trees with consent forms for it. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with it. My office already functioned that way, as did most. It's just the requirement for useless documention I hate.

 

[lawdawg02]

for two reasons: (1) I'm not sure whether the Athletic Department is considered a covered entity, and if not, the regulations don't apply; and (2) I would bet that our Athletic Department has the student-athletes sign a HIPAA waiver.

Having said that, I don't think it would be right to air someone's health information without their approval, especially in sensitive cases.

 

[shsdawg]

is covered. At least most think so. I don't think that has been tested by an actual case yet. I would think they would do a waiver too but there is debate about whether a blanket waiver is legal. HIPAA (did I get it right that time?) is still new enough that a lot of it hasn't been fully explored yet. I totally agree with that last sentance and I wouldn't add that last bit. As I said we operated that way prior to HIPAA. I always ask if it's ok to call a patient's physicianabout their health even though I'm not really required to by the law.

 

[Coach34]

some things just dont need to be talked about to the public because of their sensative nature

 

[lawdawg02]

I know I have. I have heard from acredible source the same thingI'm sure you have heard. Just pondering on the HIPAA question.

 

[lawdawg02]

constitutes a HIPAA violation. Or, for instance, the NFL puts out their list of injuries for players every week. By saying that Gronkowski is "doubtful - ankle", would that be a violation? I don't know. I would think that he could waive his right to protection by signing an agreement as part of his employment that his health info may be disclosed. I'm sure we'll get an answer some day from a court.

The "sensitivity" argument is really only thatif they aren't covered entities, they STILL shouldn't disclose health information in certain instances. I doubt a court would place a "reasonableness" standard on which health information can be disclosed and which cannot.

 

[Hanmudog]

I would think medical issues not related to injuries sustained on the court would be beyond the realm of what a school can disclose without the consent of the family. Signing with a school does not mean every detail of you life is public record.

 

[Foronce]

are we rumoring that deville doesn't have a "health" issues and may have 'knee' issues ...where has he has been in a "hospital" called 'rehab'. and is now out facing the discipline of one Stansbury ...if you can't comment ..pm me

or just bring me up to speed ...i seemed to have given Stansbury the benefit of the doubt on this and not followed as closely as I should have.

 

[futaba.79]

if an injury happens in plain view of a crowded arena, or perhaps just in front of everyone at a practice, I don't see where privacy protections apply.

 

[Xartox]

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