Stansbury Supporters

[ImHurtinLinda]

after the 7,654th post----stansbury sucks, and has no clue of how to game plan, teach offense, defense, etc.

even though he has had almost zero NBA talent (except Lawrence Roberts---but don't thinkhe lasted more than 2 or 3 years)in his years at MSU, he has wonconsistently.

I guess if you took away all of coach K's NBA players (I think the # is around 20), and gave coach K stansbury's 1 NBA talent, his results would be sweet 16's and final fours----wait, wait, let me guess--coach K magically turns them from top 5 high school players in the country to NBA players--wasn't based at all on the fact that they are sick talented.

stansbury is no phil jackson, but to say he can't coach at allis truly idiotic

 

[Coach34]

Kennedy has as many SEC West titles as "The Recruiter" since he entered the league

What good does it do to constantly bring in talent, only to see it transfer out a year or two later?

Osby
Hansbro (sp)
Turner
Ervin
Delk #1
Delk #2
Goodridge

and there are more...guys that contribute or even start constantly leave our program. So getting all excited about recruiting is really pointless right now

 

[Coach34]

after the 7,654th post----stansbury sucks, and has no clue of how to game plan, teach offense, defense, etc.

even though he has had almost zero NBA talent (except Lawrence Roberts---but don't thinkhe lasted more than 2 or 3 years)in his years at MSU, he has wonconsistently.

I guess if you took away all of coach K's NBA players (I think the # is around 20), and gave coach K stansbury's 1 NBA talent, his results would be sweet 16's and final fours----wait, wait, let me guess--coach K magically turns them from top 5 high school players in the country to NBA players--wasn't based at all on the fact that they are sick talented.

stansbury is no phil jackson, but to say he can't coach at allis truly idiotic

SEC West titles are worthless

He has 1 SEC title in 12 year and 2 SEC Tourney titles
The 6 NCAA's are a good accomplishment- but the lack of progressing is ridiculous. We are 1 of only 3 SEC schools to not make a Sweet 16 during his tenure

He is 0-25 vs Top 25 RPI teams during the regular season the last 5 years or so- who is he really beating? Wins over Auburn, Troy, and SE Louisiana only go so far

 

[Johnson85]

Absurd. You are willing to gamble now that our football team doesnt totally suck? Seriously? That is some ****** reasoning.

I'd prefer to be mediocre in basketballrather than ******, but at the same time, I'd much prefer being good in basketball to being mediocre. The payoff for gambling in basketball has been pretty good for me.However, being the best basketball program in aweak SEC West was pretty much the only MSU sports related enjoyment to be had when the Slytanic was in place (and baseball sucked, although Idon't really care about baseball), andyou don't bet what you can't afford to lose.

Now that I get real enjoyment from football, the impact of going from mediocre to ****** in basketball is not as great. I'll just pay less attention to basketball and more to football. Thepayoff hasn't changed, but the impact of the results has. It's the difference between gambling withyour last hundred dollarsv. gambling with one hundreddollars out of the hundred thousand you have.

 

[Requiem For A Dawg]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[mstateglfr]

I will never understand why being very good in one sport creates acceptance for mediocrity or even shittiness in another sport.

 

[WPDawg]

Stansbury was a good assistant coach and hired as HCbecause he could recruit. My opinion is that good defense and rebounding is built on hustle and hard work. He learned to motivate his players to work hard and hustle or hit the road or ride the bench.Therefore we are normally a good defensive and rebounding team that gets better as the season goes long. Offense is more Xs and Os and he should have gone out and hired a very good offensive coach a long time ago. Great teams have talent and get coached to a new and higher level. Our offense has been built strickly on what talent shows up. He has gotten better as a HC over the years but we have looked stupid on offense since his hiring. Maybe in 10 years he will get it but he needs to put his ego or relationships with current assistant coaches aside and find a guru who can design an offense and coach the kids up. Each year we play good enough defense to win big games but more times than not get beat because of offesnsive woes. He can recruit but needs to man up that he and the team would be better off with some intelligent offensive coaching help. Give up some of that salary and hire some new blood!

 

[paindonthurt_]

someone. Its bad business. You always strive to achieve better.

When Stans continues to promote within instead of going out and finding an offensive guy that tells me something.
1. Either he isn't trying to get better
or
2. His ego is getting in the way and make no mistake, he has an ego.

 

[paindonthurt_]

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[She Mate Me]

MSU has been much less than mediocre in it's entire basketball history withfew exceptions. One of those exceptions being the comparative plethora of riches of the last 15 years. I, for one, am all for keeping the best overall coach we have had in 40+ years. I don't love a lot of things he does, but I know that would be the case with any coach.

As proud as I am of what Mullen has accomplished this year, I think it will be very interesting to see if he can follow it up with a similar year after losing 4 solid NFL caliber players (the most I can remember us losing in quite a while). I hope the bloom doesn't fall of his rose. He will have proven he is an excellent coach to me (not that he gives a 17) if he wins reasonably big next year.

 

[mstateglfr]

MSU has been much less than mediocre in it's entire basketball history withfew exceptions. One of those exceptions being the comparative plethora of riches of the last 15 years. I, for one, am all for keeping the best overall coach we have had in 40+ years. I don't love a lot of things he does, but I know that would be the case with any coach.

As proud as I am of what Mullen has accomplished this year, I think it will be very interesting to see if he can follow it up with a similar year after losing 4 solid NFL caliber players (the most I can remember us losing in quite a while). I hope the bloom doesn't fall of his rose. He will have proven he is an excellent coach to me (not that he gives a 17) if he wins reasonably big next year.

How does what we did back in the 70's in any way at all affect now? What about the 80s? ****, we went to the Final damn Four in the 90's and you would be hard pressed to explain how even that history in any way affects us now.
We could have been UCLA back in the 60s and 70s and that would make a bit of difference now.

Who cares if we were great 40 years ago or terrible 40 years ago. What should that matter on the current decisions?

 

[paindonthurt_]

Yes Stans has been the best at MSU. Its time to expect more. He also has dropped off significantly in the last 3 or 4 years.

 

[paindonthurt_]

We always lose several games we shouldn't and it costs us big time come tournament time.

 

[bullysleftnut]

Kennedy has as many SEC West titles as "The Recruiter" since he entered the league

What good does it do to constantly bring in talent, only to see it transfer out a year or two later?

Osby
Hansbro (sp)
Turner
Ervin
Delk #1
Delk #2
Goodridge

and there are more...guys that contribute or even start constantly leave our program. So getting all excited about recruiting is really pointless right now

Ervin: Went to Arkansas and contributed. Drove the Arkansas fanbase crazy with his wild and sloppy play.
Hansborough: Went to Notre Dame contributed.

The rest of those guys didn't (or haven't) done **** in college.

Who gives a damn if they transferred?

 

[She Mate Me]

of history is relevant, then there is no point arguing the subject. I am a realist who realizes that MSU will always have a chance to have a great team that surprises the country in any sport, but the economics and realities of college atthletics say we will typically be average. Stans has made us consistently above average in basketball more than all but one coach in our history. I'm not throwing that away for a wish anda prayer on whoever someone thinks might be better and would actually come here. Look at Arkansas basketball if you think it is easy to pick a coach.

 

[Danhandled5]

nm

 

[mstateglfr]

<span class="post-title">If you don't understand that looking at 100 years...</span>of history is relevant, then there is no point arguing the subject. I am a realist who realizes that MSU will always have a chance to have a great team that surprises the country in any sport, but the economics and realities of college atthletics say we will typically be average. Stans has made us consistently above average in basketball more than all but one coach in our history. I'm not throwing that away for a wish anda prayer on whoever someone thinks might be better and would actually come here. Look at Arkansas basketball if you think it is easy to pick a coach.

or expectations. UCLA was the greatest program for an entire decade some 40 years ago, and currently they suck. Hell, they were dominant for the 2000s and have been awful for a couple years now. Just because they have been good in the past doesnt mean **** now.
And likewise, just because a program has been **** in the past doesnt mean anything now.

What happened 50, 40, 30, or 20 years ago has absolutely nothing to do with right now. Nothing. It doesnt have any bearing on financial support(since people dont donate based on what happened a quarter or half century ago), it doesnt have any bearing on recruiting(our current players were 4-7 when we went to the Final Four, you think any of them have a connection to that or recruits did? Of course not), and it doesnt have any bearing on where we can go from here.

Any chance you can offer up some examples to defend your view? Or are you just going to say that there is no point discussing this since i disagree with you?

Please use any sport, not just basketball, to support your view. Use football, please! Lets talk about Boise State's lack of history and how they have somehow been awesome. Or lets talk about teams from 50-100 years ago being great and now being awful.

 

[mstateglfr]

yeah, good points.