Stansbury to Tennessee??????

[jmbeck]

A.)Kyle is a sensationalist reporter that tries to dig up dirtin order to sell his product and build up himself up.His actions go above and beyond simply reporting facts, and heonly cares to focus on negatives. As this is outside of his beat, then by this description it shouldn't matter.

or

B.)Kyle is a Ole Miss homer, and lives to write about articles to make Mississippi State look bad. If so, we should expect a blog shortly.

So, I guess this will be the first test to determine the true manner of exactly what type of POS Kyle is. I'm glad actually, because it's really been bothering me.

 

[57stratdawg]

Pearl is still the head coach at UT. Plus, what qualifies as "indirect" contact? A letter? I don't think Pearl is really in danger of losing his job, at least not in the next month or so. As someone else said, if theyre going to fire him, it'll be in March or April.

There is NO WAY Stans will be at UT next year.

 

[Coach34]

it appears pretty obvious they are posturing in case even more comes out that they dont already know about and they have to make a move....it's not like the AD and the President know everything Pearl is doing..and I doubt Mr Motionless is the only person they sent out feelers on

 

[patdog]

One or two people have posted that UT wanted to hire Dan Mullen when Kiffen left and that Slive put a stop to it. I was just making fun of the ridiculousness of Slive even trying to do something like that.

 

[patdog]

what qualifies as "indirect" contact?

Indirect contact = Called his agent. It's very standard operating procedure in coaching searches.

I don't think Pearl is really in danger of losing his job, at least not in the next month or so.

That depends on what comes out in the next month or so. It's not a big stretch at all to think that some really bad stuff is lurking out there that hasn't been made public. And we know that the NCAA (and others) is investigating. He wouldn't be the first coach to be fired right before (or even during) a season.

 

[gtowndawg]

Sexton. Not saying I've heard one word about this, but Jimmy's been know to have some "indirect" contact before.

 

[Dawgfan61]

Look up interim @ dictionary.com and get back with me. Once you realize what interim means, YOU (not me mind you) would be happy because it means your boy "Ricky" as you refer to him would be gone.

 

[idog]

rumor is Stans is going to commit to the gig at UT then back out at the last second to get back at Hopson.

 

[Johnson85]

We're likely going to chase him off at some point, and nobody with any sense would want to come to coach at that point. At the same time, it's probably getting time for him to go. I know we don't have a huge budget for assistant coaches, but at some point he needs to look for a coach that can make up for some of his weaknesses.My thought is this would be a good time for him to be picked up;we have talent and it would show potential coaches MSU can be a stepping stone.

On the other, ifSidney is as good as advertised, all it takes is for one breakthrough season and Stansbury might be able to recruit well enough to hide his weaknesses without the help of a new assistant.

 

[57stratdawg]

another coach until after the season is my point. If Pearl gets fired in October, they won't be interviewing other coaches on until March or April. They'll just promote an interim coach for the 2010-2011 basketball season.

Also, on the Slive stepping in stuff, I dont think Slive would step in and block UT from hiring Stans. I posted that thread a few weeks ago, but from what I heard Slive just discouraged SEC teams targeting other SEC teams coaches.

When was the the last time in the major sports that one SEC coach was courted away from another SEC school? Maybe I'm overlooking some, but I can't think of one in the last several years. I know Nutt to OM, but he was let go at Ark first.

 

[whatever.sixpack]

another coach until after the season is my point. If Pearl gets fired in October, they won't be interviewing other coaches on until March or April. They'll just promote an interim coach for the 2010-2011 basketball season.

Also, on the Slive stepping in stuff, I dont think Slive would step in and block UT from hiring Stans. I posted that thread a few weeks ago, but from what I heard Slive just discouraged SEC teams targeting other SEC teams coaches.

When was the the last time in the major sports that one SEC coach was courted away from another SEC school? Maybe I'm overlooking some, but I can't think of one in the last several years. I know Nutt to OM, but he was let go at Ark first.

This...
You guys just don't have common sense if you think there is any way Stans leaves to coach UT THIS year. Let's say all this is true, then it better come out in the next month. Let's say they have to fire Pearl in late October, that's 2-3 weeks before the season starts. No way they get an even decent coach to leave a program 3 weeks before the 1st game. Surely they'd go interim, other coaches would get a chance to see what the sanctions would be, and then they would hire someone at the end of the season.
That's assuming that any of this is actually true. Not sure UT basketball would be "non existent" even if something huge came down. USC football got hit pretty hard, players were able to transfer out and play immediately, but they still didn't have a starter transfer and it remains to be seen if probation will even effect their recruiting or program

 

[MSUCE99]

another coach until after the season is my point. If Pearl gets fired in October, they won't be interviewing other coaches on until March or April. They'll just promote an interim coach for the 2010-2011 basketball season.

Also, on the Slive stepping in stuff, I dont think Slive would step in and block UT from hiring Stans. I posted that thread a few weeks ago, but from what I heard Slive just discouraged SEC teams targeting other SEC teams coaches.

When was the the last time in the major sports that one SEC coach was courted away from another SEC school? Maybe I'm overlooking some, but I can't think of one in the last several years. I know Nutt to OM, but he was let go at Ark first.

Well, there was that Cohen to MSU thing.

 

[Hanmudog]

another coach until after the season is my point. If Pearl gets fired in October, they won't be interviewing other coaches on until March or April. They'll just promote an interim coach for the 2010-2011 basketball season.

Also, on the Slive stepping in stuff, I dont think Slive would step in and block UT from hiring Stans. I posted that thread a few weeks ago, but from what I heard Slive just discouraged SEC teams targeting other SEC teams coaches.

When was the the last time in the major sports that one SEC coach was courted away from another SEC school? Maybe I'm overlooking some, but I can't think of one in the last several years. I know Nutt to OM, but he was let go at Ark first.

Well, there was that Cohen to MSU thing.

And McMahon to Florida. However, you do have a point that it does not happen very often.

 

[patdog]

until after the season, and just use an interim coach during the season. But that is not at all what you posted in your original post that I responded to.

As for the Slive stepping in stuff, I had no idea who posted that. But I can't imagine that any amount of pursuasion from the commissioner would stop Tennessee from hiring their first choice for a coach. SEC football is way too big a business for that.

 

[Coach34]

only thing I can come up with is that they know alot more on Pearl than has been outed so far and they want to make a change in the next few days...and they dont have faith in assistant to coach this season and don't want to waste it that way.


as far as coaches leaving, we see coordinators do it fairly often
Tubby from Mississippi to Auburn
Nutt from Ark to Mississippi
Cohen from Kentucky to State
McMahon to Fla from State
Tubby from Georgia to Kentucky
Grant got hired at Bama because of what he helped build at Fla- not what he did as a HC

 

[anon1751035439]

While Stans is a good coach, I doubt UT wants to hire someone from a program that recently tussled with the NCAA. Just my thoughts.

 

[patdog]

I doubt UT wants to hire someone from a program that recently tussled with the NCAA.

If you're talking about the Sidney situation, we were never even accused of any wrongdoing there.

 

[whatever.sixpack]

I just find it really, really hard to believe that firing Pearl would come BEFORE all of the dirt becoming public. You would think they would ride it out first to see how bad it might be, if it ever becomes public, if they can turn it into a slap on the wrist, etc... before they fire a very successful coach

I guess it's possible that they'd fire him first in hopes that the NCAA would take it easy on them, but in most of these cases (Kelvin Sampson at Indiana and Jim Harrick at UGA) some wrongdoing starts to become public before the school parts ways w/ the coach

 

[LandArchDawg]

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[anon1751035439]

Back off Pat. Just said that there was a fairly public back and forth with them. That may influence them if they do decide to get rid of Pearl. I am not accusing you all of anything underhanded.

 

[zerocooldog]

On a less serious note; I like Rick and want him to stay I alsothink hes the right fit for our program, all the guys who want him gone don't realize the chances of us upgrading with a new coach are very slim, its not a chance I'm willing to take if we don't have to. </p>

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

and using that logic, ole miss must be in deep **** with the NCAA from getting Masoli cleared.

 

[patdog]

90% of the back-and-forth you're referring to was between the NCAA and Donald Jackson. There's certainly nothing that would cause Stans to beconsidereddamaged goodsin any way.</p>

 

[anon1751035439]

Maybe they don't hold grudges. It seems to me that the point has been made here and elsewhere that they do, even over incidents where no wrongdoing was done by the school.

 

[anon1751035439]

Personally I hope he does go to UT or anywhere else for that matter. We have tried with different coaches to match up against him with little success. I think he is a really good at what he does.

 

[Johnson85]

...I like Rick and want him to stay I alsothink hes the right fit for our program, all the guys who want him gone don't realize the chances of us upgrading with a new coach are very slim, its not a chance I'm willing to take if we don't have to. </p>

incredibly slim. If he moveson voluntarily, they're somewhat better, especially if the pantry isstocked.

There's no doubt Stansburyhas worked out well for MSU andfans should appreciate what he's done for MSU basketball.The only reason I'm open to him moving on is that we've had the same problems for a while now, and he hasn't tried to hire a new assistant coach to address them.Now if we pay absolute **** for assistant coaches and there's no way realistic way to upgrade,then fine, we're better off keeping the assistant coaches we haveb/c they at least know recruiting.

But ifwe pay something more than ****, and being an assistant at MSU is not a terrible job, I'd like to see Stansbury try to bring somebodyin that is strong where he is weak.I know we need our assistants to recruit, but wecould alsouse a refresher on fundamentals. ****, instead of hiring the guy from JUCO, we could have hired a damnGA from Mississippi College just tocopy the drills they run in practice.

ETA: That's a long way of saying as successfulas he is (and he is successful), if he's done trying to improve, I'm okay with him leaving.

 

[patdog]

and let the chips fall where they may. For the very reason of not wanting to get on the NCAA's bad side or to appear to be trying to cover up any violations that he may have committed (which would have been a violation for MSU for trying to cover it up). Y'all took a much more proactive stance in the Masoli situation because you really didn't have much of a dowside risk since there were no NCAA violations in question. I think both were smart decisions of how to deal with the NCAA (ignoring the question of whether taking either of theseslightly shadycharacters was the right or wrong thing to do).

 

[dawgs123]

Someone please save this thread when Stansbury is coaching us at the beginning of November... C34 has nothing better to do than make up 17 and sit back and laugh when everyone gets heated about nothing... I trust C34's word just about as much as Cam Newtons

 

[38843dawg]

Anyways I usually don't agree with coach, but in his defense he is not saying that Stans is going for certain. He is just posting something that he heard, no harm in that.

Rule #5:
Posting of rumors, innuedo, second hand knowledge, he said/she said, and the like are not only allowed, they are encouraged. Feel free to share any info you feel is solid. Be aware that being wrong opens you up for endless ridicule.

 

[BriantheDawg]

Just look at how awesome Indiana is now.

 

[BriantheDawg]

Tennessee plays in front of 21,000 every home game. They are a national program.

Rick Stansbury, who sucks as coach, is potentially a candidate for a national program, but he is simply not good enough for poor ol' Mississippi State. Am I following this correctly?