Starkville Just Doesn't Get How to Improve/Progress/Anything..
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Generally, conservatives want to impose their belief on others that the government shouldn't have a healthcare exchange.
Generally, conservatives want to impose their belief on others that drugs should be kept illegal.
Generally, conservatives want to impose their belief that marriage is between a man and woman only.
Generally, conservatives want to impose their belief that more people armed and carrying is best for society.
I could go on and on playing this game. The generally game is such a fun one, amiright?
==And don't cry that I have taken the above societal issues out of context and applied a bastardized conservative view to them. The point is that your comment is wildly absurd.
Starkville is indeed headed the right way. 15 years ago old venice was the first bar downtown. The only thing in the cotton district after flos burned was the grill. Now up and down university is a totally different place. Downtown starkville doesnt just have tenants it has really good tenants. The cd is totally unique. People are trying to move there or have. Its just one generation away from getting over the final hump
Its ironic that you want the free market to determine what is built and not bureaucracy, when it is bureaucracy who creates the rules that govern and limit said free market.
How about him spending tax payer money to build a city hall that the public voted down three times!
Yeah? Well you short sighted 17, the way a city looks does have something to do with the economics of the city.
Let me speak slowly. If a city looks good and has a good vibe, then more people typically would move there or invest there. More population and more investment would mean more jobs. More jobs means less unemployment.
Let me speak slowly. If a city looks good and has a good vibe, then more people typically would move there or invest there. More population and more investment would mean more jobs. More jobs means less unemployment.
Sorry if I ruffled your fur, but I did say the liberals/conservatives that I know. I cant speak for the others but most I know don't care what you smoke, who you marry, whether you go to church or not, etc. In short, be free to do what you like, as long as it doesn't do harm to others. The less government has to say about it the better, but I likely lean libertarian.
If you want to own a gun that's fine, just don't shoot people with it. Be a responsible gun owner, which most are.
You are right, most folks I know do not favor government mandating that everyone pay for health insurance, but that's probably for a different board.
This is part of the reason FoxNews, MSNBC, and other media outlets so as much harm as good in my opinion. They define two distinct different sides rather than what most people are, which is a mix of issues.
I should not have generalized. I likely shouldn't have posted either way
I'm going back to sports. This is why I quit watching the news.
If you want to own a gun that's fine, just don't shoot people with it. Be a responsible gun owner, which most are.
You are right, most folks I know do not favor government mandating that everyone pay for health insurance, but that's probably for a different board.
This is part of the reason FoxNews, MSNBC, and other media outlets so as much harm as good in my opinion. They define two distinct different sides rather than what most people are, which is a mix of issues.
I should not have generalized. I likely shouldn't have posted either way
I'm going back to sports. This is why I quit watching the news.
It's a huge circle of ****. The town sucks because the aldermen suck, no one wants to build a business in Starkville because the town sucks, there are no jobs in Starkville because the town sucks due to ****** leadership, the education system sucks because it's filled with poverty stricken students and has very little property taxes to draw from because the town sucks and there are no jobs because of ****** leadership... keeping people from moving there with kids, no one wants to live in Starkville because it sucks except people with horrible ideas as to how to run a town, said people get elected because they're the only people eligible to run because they're the ony ones who don't live at a different address each year, start from zero.
As previously put, it's changing. Guys like Wiseman are staying in Starkville and actively knocking heads with these guys.
I love Starkville, for the record. It's just disappointing seeing it settle for mediocrity. I've spent the better part of the last year trying to figure out how to get back there, but the only way is for me to work at Tabor, be a bartender, or work on a second degree.
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One thing....
There is at least one alderman who positively DOES NOT SUCK, and that is Jason Walker. There may be a few more, but there needs to be more like Jason. If there were, lots of good things would start happening.
That said, I agree with everything else you have said in the entire thread. Side note: I have heard thee wings in the newly opened State Theater suck. If true, somebody with access tell the owners to SMOKE the wings first THEN flash fry them in the sauce. Additionally (and I have heard nothing about the beers on tap, so correct me if I am wrong) get some good rotating taps before the place closes down aGAIN.
There is at least one alderman who positively DOES NOT SUCK, and that is Jason Walker. There may be a few more, but there needs to be more like Jason. If there were, lots of good things would start happening.
That said, I agree with everything else you have said in the entire thread. Side note: I have heard thee wings in the newly opened State Theater suck. If true, somebody with access tell the owners to SMOKE the wings first THEN flash fry them in the sauce. Additionally (and I have heard nothing about the beers on tap, so correct me if I am wrong) get some good rotating taps before the place closes down aGAIN.
Harumph!
Forcing people to do certain things on their OWN property only raises costs and does nothing to "attract" business from elsewhere. Blanket standards on an entire community don't do anything for economic development. Most of Starkville is a dump as is most of Oxford. Zoning has nothing to do with it. Attracting investment and intellectual capital will change things. Not archaic BS laws or a bunch of booger eating alderman.
Forcing people to do certain things on their OWN property only raises costs and does nothing to "attract" business from elsewhere. Blanket standards on an entire community don't do anything for economic development. Most of Starkville is a dump as is most of Oxford. Zoning has nothing to do with it. Attracting investment and intellectual capital will change things. Not archaic BS laws or a bunch of booger eating alderman.
I don't live in 'Vegas or even Mississippi, but I can confidently say that I would be shocked- SHOCKED- if alderman Scott Maynard isn't still a totally useless douche nozzle. Just a raging football bat- useless and dumb.
That dude's lack of leadership bordered on hilarity when I was in college, I cant imagine he has suddenly acquired strong leadership skills in the years since.
This is like saying that our football recruiting success didn't and doesn't have anything to do with facilities. They were **** -- so what -- just bring in the best of the best out of state kids to help us win big and we'll be fine and then maybe build better facilities after we're winning big. That's just not how things work in the real world. Someone has got to invest in greatness on the front end -- and if you are counting on the outsiders to do it, that's where the town stays stuck in the stone ages. THE TOWN has to decide if they want to invest on being something special -- or are happy remaining the joke of every member institution in the SEC -- and make no mistake, that is exactly what we are.
So you can build crap. For cheap. And that's supposed to help the town attract all of this new intellectual capital investment how exactly?
It's a snowball effect. One needs just look at the differences between Madison and Ridgeland to see what the better building codes mean over time. Better building codes = "nicer town" = more "higher class" people spending more time there/retiring there = more money = pays off and profits on initial investment. The net result being a place that no longer resembles the butt of all the jokes within the SEC...
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Haha, this is as wrong as it gets. Forcing someone to do something on their property helps nothing? Alright, how about I buy a plot of land next to your house and use it as a manure depository?
Regulations exist for the purpose of the common good. Something that might be a little cheaper and more convenient for one person can have detrimental effects on an entire town.
So if it want to
put in a amphitheater and have Megadeath play everynight until 1 AM next door to your house it's ok? I mean, afterall, it's my property and I can do what I want.
put in a amphitheater and have Megadeath play everynight until 1 AM next door to your house it's ok? I mean, afterall, it's my property and I can do what I want.
I think we're on the same page. I want the same things you do...
I just think your comment about Obama implies that national politics has something to do with our local problems. It doesn't. I think Wiseman's doing a good job.
I just think your comment about Obama implies that national politics has something to do with our local problems. It doesn't. I think Wiseman's doing a good job.
You lost me at Madison and Ridgeland.
Both are preplanned, outdated shitholes. Zoning laws do not equal greatness, they just raise entry costs and restrict investment. Dan Camp invested with his dollars and his capital and you see the only part of Starkville with any attractiveness. He was fought tooth and nail by the same booger eating rednecks that people ***** about on this site. Starkville has plenty of potential, there is just no capital willing to take advantage of it on a grand scale for a myriad of reasons, most out of the control of the dumbass alderman you mention.
Both are preplanned, outdated shitholes. Zoning laws do not equal greatness, they just raise entry costs and restrict investment. Dan Camp invested with his dollars and his capital and you see the only part of Starkville with any attractiveness. He was fought tooth and nail by the same booger eating rednecks that people ***** about on this site. Starkville has plenty of potential, there is just no capital willing to take advantage of it on a grand scale for a myriad of reasons, most out of the control of the dumbass alderman you mention.
Madison is "an outdated ********"?
We have obviously lost each other -- because you lost me at the "it's my property and I can do what I want" ridiculousness in the first argument.
The fact that you think the powerbrokers in Starkville have little-to-no control over it's future makes this discussion pointless in even attempting. It's beyond ridiculous even though nothing is changing your mind.
I would take Highland Colony over any part of Madison. They did a great job developing the township.
I can agree with that. But travel down Hoy Road in madison. It's starting to get run down as well.
You are correct, we will probably never agree.
I've read plenty of your posts and respect your intelligence. However, the fact that you think you can tell someone else what to do with their private property speaks to an arrogance that I will never understand. It's a free country. Don't like your neighbors or metal buildings? Move. In a bad position and can't move? Find a way. I digress.
Across the country Urbanism is taking hold in most metropolitan areas, which you have probably seen. Suburbs such as Madison and Ridgeland are becoming the suburban ghettos with the younger generation preferring to live in urban areas. Look at ATL: Alpharetta and Marietta are becoming very outdated and run down, still some pockets with nice areas, but not great. Mississippi is just 10-15 years behind the curve as usual.
The "powerbrokers" can most likely create a good environment for business and people to thrive, but unless they have the power to have a Boeing plant or a Tesla factory locate nearby, then no, they don't have a lot say....they usually just get in the way.
I've read plenty of your posts and respect your intelligence. However, the fact that you think you can tell someone else what to do with their private property speaks to an arrogance that I will never understand. It's a free country. Don't like your neighbors or metal buildings? Move. In a bad position and can't move? Find a way. I digress.
Across the country Urbanism is taking hold in most metropolitan areas, which you have probably seen. Suburbs such as Madison and Ridgeland are becoming the suburban ghettos with the younger generation preferring to live in urban areas. Look at ATL: Alpharetta and Marietta are becoming very outdated and run down, still some pockets with nice areas, but not great. Mississippi is just 10-15 years behind the curve as usual.
The "powerbrokers" can most likely create a good environment for business and people to thrive, but unless they have the power to have a Boeing plant or a Tesla factory locate nearby, then no, they don't have a lot say....they usually just get in the way.