State Championships
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So let us assume that SMC team plays a team from the Atlantic 5. (The easternmost and the westernmost 1A conferences). If games are played in Raleigh, Durham, Winston Salem, Fayetteville, etc. Which region travels the furthest EVERY year? So if we don't move them to WCU or ECU how about Charlotte one in a while?
I occasionally use my brain and actually think about stuff. It seems like today’s contributions however are pretty snarky, which gets me over kind of like the comedian warming up the crowd at a Metallica show. Apologies.Yep! it is!
Isn't it funny how it's socially unacceptable to produce hate speech and use demoralizing stereotypes against every other demographic in the US, except Appalachian Americans...
You obviously do not understand. That post was related to a regional final where two teams ide by side would travel 135 miles each to play one another from their town to play in the game. Does that make any sense?!? Would it make sense for Robbinsville and Murphy to go McDowell to play? Same distance.
There has never been two SMC teams play one another in a state final. Only twice in the subdividing era have two teams from SMC made it to the two titles games in the same season while seven years the SMC did not have a team in either title game.
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If you read any of my posts over the last dozen years you will see that I do NOT want the games in the Triangle. My goal has always to get them more in the center of the state so it would be more fair to teams from the west. It really does not help the argument when people call for Western and ECU.
If you use the point that is used for this purpose to signify the middle of the state east to west UNCC is basically 11 miles farther west from that point than Carter Finley is to the east. I have wrote before numerous times if they use NC State, Duke, and UNC that UNCC should be a potential site.
Doubtful any team from the Atlantic 5 is sniffing a title game. Use Edenton Holmes for the school.
NC A&T Holmes 213 Murphy 282. Total 495.
Wake Forest Holmes 246 Murphy 253. Total 499.
UNCC Holmes 294 Murphy 230. Total 524.
Those are all acceptable. The reason WCU does not work is because only one team is nearby and would have less distance to travel while three schools would travel a much greater distance. I cannot explain any more simple than that.
WCU wouldn't work because what if on the year the 1A title game rotated west, something happens like '07 when North Duplin made the final as the west representative? Then nobody is happy because it isn't central to anybody.
So you obviously didn't see the original post was about state championship games. And I am sure glad that you informed me that two SMC teams have never played each other in a state championship. It must hurt to have that much knowledge of the game. No kidding, I didn't know two teams from the west can't play each other in a state championship, wow! I appreciate you letting me know. The original point was that the games need to be taken out of the Triangle. If you think that games played in that area are not longer travel for Western teams, then you need to ask for a refund for taxes to pay your 5th grade math teacher. Furthermore, I didn't realize that my opinion carried such weight. Wow! The NCHSAA was ready to make changes until they read my opinion. Now I have messed that up. Raleigh is longer travel for West teams in a state championship than it is for East teams, "really can't make it simpler than that."
Now that makes sense! It is the exception to the argument. Good post!
That is why I mentioned that two SMC schools had not played in the title game. Four schools from one conference played in the 2008 4A title games. Several conferences have had two teams in the two subclass title games.
I was replying to the post about playing regional title games at a “neutral” site. I noted that there is a good possibility that two schools that share a district boundary could travel 135 miles each to ECU, which he specified, when they are nine miles apart.
The original post was to play the games in the east and west, Western and ECU.
Why do you write that I do not understand the travel to Raleigh? This season I have been to games in all classes from Wilmington to Robbinsville. Fayetteville to Pisgah. I am fairly knowledgeable on the geography of the state.
I put up the numbers of the distances fir different locations. I did NOT include Raleigh because I do not think the Triangle schools should be used. I was comparing the travel distance to the most central college stadium, A&T, and Western.
I posted and have for years that the title games need to come to the central part of the state. I may be off but I think there are eight football playing high schools west of Cullowhee. (I have been to all of them except Hayesville.). That leaves 370 schools to the east.
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Sorry don't mean to be chippy but I think the Triangle is all right. N
Maybe Charlotte one year and Raleigh the next. Thanks for the discussion. I just liked the old days when somebody travelled across the state and at least every other year it was a team from the East.
Charlotte is a LOT closer to (say) Bryson City than Raleigh is. Winston-Salem is at least half an hour further away than Charlotte, for cryin' out loud.
I may have made that not very easy to u derstsnd. Should have read an eastern school driving to Charlotte is the equivalent of the western school driving to Carter Finley. They are both about the same distance from the center point used by the NCHSAA.
As I wrote before, if they are using Raleigh they should look at using Charlotte.
The title games this year are a perfect reason the games need to be in a central point in the state. Duke and NC State are too far east in my opinion but for people thinking the games should be at Western Carolina this is a good example of why it is not geographically sensible.
To WCU
Pamlico 429
Tarboro 368
East Surry 220
Murphy 72
Total 1,089
To Wake Forest
Pamlico 238
Tarboro 177
East Surry 25
Murphy 253
Total 693
To NC A&T
Pamlico 208
Tarboro 147
East Surry 58
Murphy 282
Total 695
To NC State
Pamlico 140
Tarboro 77
East Surry 124
Murphy 348
Total 689
To UNCC
Pamlico 299
Tarboro 237
East Surry 104
Murphy 223
Total 863
To WCU
Pamlico 429
Tarboro 368
East Surry 220
Murphy 72
Total 1,089
To Wake Forest
Pamlico 238
Tarboro 177
East Surry 25
Murphy 253
Total 693
To NC A&T
Pamlico 208
Tarboro 147
East Surry 58
Murphy 282
Total 695
To NC State
Pamlico 140
Tarboro 77
East Surry 124
Murphy 348
Total 689
To UNCC
Pamlico 299
Tarboro 237
East Surry 104
Murphy 223
Total 863
The field would be torn to shreds by the time the last game is played. I already think playing 3-games on the same field in the same day is crazy.
They should just go back to the east champion hosting the title game and the west champion the following year and so on,east west east west.is it an advantage for host team sure it is but winning a state title isn't supposed to be easy.then you could play it on Friday NIGHT like you do the other 14 games in a season. nothing like a whole town for the most part closing down to watch their team and community host a state title game.never been a big fan of playing at noon in a college football stadium or having eight state champions.just my opinion.
If you’re a kid would you rather play at unc ncsu duke wake or some high school stadium. I’d rather drive and experience playing in an acc venue. That makes it special for some kids who otherwise would never have the opportunity to set foot in a stadium like those
I attended four title games on high school campuses. Great atmosphere and a total cluster.
I do not like the huge college campus nor the 11 am start and one of the main reasons for that is eight state champions.
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Or would you rather play in front of your hometown crowd? I remember watching a couple of championships in the 80's where "entire" towns showed up. It seems that that type of energy is better than playing at some venerated venue like Wallace Wade Stadium. JMO!
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I would make the trade off. Back to the high school campuses alternating east and west if they drop subdividing.
Lol. When Mitchell played in the state championship game the whole town showed up in Winston Salem
People up here in the hills love good football. In 1997 (the last time my Tigers made it to a state title game the "upper End of Transylvania County" was in Chapel Hill.