State is now a tier 1 university per US News & World Report
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Interesting...we are 151, Um is 143.... That Makes all 12 SEC Members Tier 1 Finally...the state of MS was holding that up.
Vandy #17
UF #53
UGA #56
UA #79
AU #83
UT #104
USC #111
LSU #124
UK #129
UA (Arkansas) #132
UM #143
MSU #151
There is a 7 way tie for #191 before they move to Tier 2
Vandy #17
UF #53
UGA #56
UA #79
AU #83
UT #104
USC #111
LSU #124
UK #129
UA (Arkansas) #132
UM #143
MSU #151
There is a 7 way tie for #191 before they move to Tier 2
But I also don't think it means we are any more selective either. I'm not an expert on this area by any means, but I don't think admissions requirements are much different. Since we market ourselves as "The People's University", my assumption would be that we simply get more borderline applications than Ole Miss does (thanks, MS education system!). I bet we have to filter through more garbage to get to our enrollment. I believe our profile of entering freshmen is pretty solid, so it's really nothing to worry about. But, it does artificially make it look as if we are more selective than we really are.
I'd be interested in seeing more numbers/stats on the applications and admissions from each school and some commentary from somebody that knows what they are talking about. I'm just making assumptions here - I could be way off...
I'd be interested in seeing more numbers/stats on the applications and admissions from each school and some commentary from somebody that knows what they are talking about. I'm just making assumptions here - I could be way off...
I don't doubt you one bit. Even so, tier I is so much sexier than tier III.
What it does is makes a random student from Georgia or Virginia or Colorado or California not simply dismiss msu outright as a college possibility.
U.S. News is a lot like genes page used to be. There were no other widely regarded, legitimate outlets for msu , so a random msu fan from Guntown looking for internet info considered it definitive. Same with the random high school junior in Oklahoma trying to decide where to go to school out of state. They pick up U.S.News and consider it accurate.
What it does is makes a random student from Georgia or Virginia or Colorado or California not simply dismiss msu outright as a college possibility.
U.S. News is a lot like genes page used to be. There were no other widely regarded, legitimate outlets for msu , so a random msu fan from Guntown looking for internet info considered it definitive. Same with the random high school junior in Oklahoma trying to decide where to go to school out of state. They pick up U.S.News and consider it accurate.
LAMSUFAN said:
I am confused. USNWR used to have 4 quartiles, not two tiers. Each quartile was about 50 schools. We were in the third quartile. Unfairly I think (much of the grade was perceptions by other schools). I think later they grouped the first two quartiles together in tier 1. Since there were about 200 schools in the first rankings, what has happened to have us in tier 1 at a ranking of 150+?
...I wondered the same thing. Did a little half-assed research...they must have changed things again. Something like universities/colleges in the top 75% of the rankings in each of 10 categories (national universities, national liberal arts colleges, 4 groups of regional universities, 4 groups of regional colleges) are now considered Tier 1.
"2. More schools have been ranked. In response to a strong interest from readers in knowing precisely where all schools on their list stand, we've opted to display the rank of the top 75 percent of schools in each category, up from 50 percent. This top ranked group will be called the First Tier. The schools in the bottom 25 percent of each group are listed alphabetically as the Second Tier; which was previously called the 4th Tier. This means that we have eliminated the Third Tier from the rankings and we are now numerically ranking 75 percent of the schools in the National Universities, National Liberal Arts Colleges, Regional Universities, and Regional Colleges categories. The same number of schools appear in the ranking tables as last year. Why did we make this change? We believe that the data are complete enough to numerically rank more schools given our robust methodology. The quality of the data we collect has improved over the years, so that it is now rich enough to rank more schools numerically. This change will also reduce ranking volatility, since far fewer schools will now drop in and out of the numerical rankings in any given year. We believe dropping the Third Tier and having a First and Second Tier will make the Best Colleges rankings less confusing for all users. "
In other words....Yes we are now Tier 1, but that just means we aren't in the bottom 25%
Still a lot of work to be done.
In other words....Yes we are now Tier 1, but that just means we aren't in the bottom 25%
Still a lot of work to be done.