Whatever Stoops built was quickly destroyed by as well.
Stoops and Virginia Tech?
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You aren't telling lies but you're missing nuance. He built this program on the backs of one of the worst runs in the SEC easts history (historically bad UF, rough patch for UT and usc/ul/mizz weren't above average during most of his tenure) and three gimme cupcakes each year.
He's horrendous against top 10 programs and while the bowl streak was fun, going bowling one game above 500 isnt the flex we think it is. I'll give him credit for elevating th program but he's also getting credit for nearly sinking it to where it was when he started.
Time to move on.
It was a semi-facetious suggestion. I’m under no belief that scores of fans will take to social media as a result of a message board post and bring about some effect or change in the Stoops saga. Hence the
at the end of it.Thinking beyond VT, I’m also under no real belief that any program (including them) that he himself would consider would actually be interested in him in return. We are moving toward a contentious buyout scenario or relying on him taking a much “lesser” job just to get out the door. I’m inclined to believe the former option.
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He gave us some good moments. And while 10 wins is an accomplishment we can’t act like it’s comparing getting 10 wins to the past 100 years of the program. Only since 2006 have we played 12 reg season games, go to a bowl for 6 wins to get a 13th game, and essentially get to schedule 3 gimme games to aide in getting to the required 6 wins to get the bowl. Brooks got to a bowl all 4 seasons he coached under this. Joker went to 1 of 3. After this season stoops will have been to bowls in 8 of his 13 seasons and one of the 8 was a Covid handout with a losing record.
Does anybody think stoops is winning 10 games if it was 1955 and there were 10 reg season games and 7 total bowl games to get an 11th. Even through the 80’s only about 3 sec teams a season went to a bowl. Bowl numbers increased some in the 90’s although it was 11 reg season games and mumme and even brooks in his first several seasons played UL, IU and an fcs for their non con. 2006 forward is the mark for the current setup comparison for wins and bowls.
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Could the football gods give us such a gift?
Hopefully Barnhart puts an end to this nonsense and locks him down for a few more years. Give him another million to stay.
Hopefully Barnhart puts an end to this nonsense and locks him down for a few more years. Give him another million to stay.
On brand for those two and UK football: somehow pull off a win against Texas, be “close enough” against Tennessee, prompting a Barnhart vote of undying confidence…
then promptly proceed to lose 38-7 against a then-coachless Florida, barely survive TT and get curbstomped by 60 in front of approximately 23k screaming Louisville fans to put the cherry on the season.
There is no other way to slice it. A 10 win season at KY is fantastic. I don't care what other programs were down and I don't care about any other factors. A 10 win season is bad ***. I never thought I would see it and I may not see it again. Hope the next guy can pull it off
Funny how some get sick at the thought of U of L fans posing as UK fans and doing stuff to make us look bad but it's OK to do the same type of thing if we're trying to get rid of Stoops. Hypocrisy is an ugly girl, lol.What?
This post is the best I have seen in about a week!
So sick of hearing about the 10 win season. It was an aberration as his subsequent record has PROVED. Simple question for all you Stoops apologist. Do any of you HONESTLY believe he will will ever win even 8 games in SEC again. The guy has watered our program to Joker level lows. We are the laughing stock of the conference. The guy has won 1 conference game in 2 years. I don't give a rats rectum what he did in the past LOOK AT WHAT HES DOING TODAY. No excuses, we need CHANGE NOW
Hence me saying it’s an accomplishment but the ‘how many coaches have won 10 at uk?’ As if that’s some shutdown statistic is off the mark. Probably the best way to compare him between eras is the conference performance because it takes into account the performance relative to comparable peers. His conference record is in line with UK’s historic record at like a percentage point higher and he has 4 of the 32 seasons the school has where it finished .500 or better in conference.
Stoops had those 10 win seasons before NIL money. Stoops or no other coach in all of college FB could win at UK FB with the horrible low NIL money UK FB receives now. UK NIL money what little there is goes to the BB team. I see the BB team is pre-season ranked top 10.
He had his run before coaching changes were made at the schools he was beating for a stretch. Yeah we need more money and Barnhart has never been a sec football ad but at this point stoops is getting outperformed by schools that are in our same boat or worse money wise. In fact, if we do spend less it makes it more important to get a guy that knows how to coach because you have to make up the difference somewhere. I think barnhart’s strategy with stoops was to overpay the hc so he will live with the poor infrastructure of NiL at UK. Which stoops is forced to foster himself pre rev share cap. But stoops hasn’t turned out to be the guy that can make an onfield coaching difference. He got his last 10 win season by being strategically effective with the portal and NIL on Levi’s and Robinson etc but he’s been all over the map since. Supposedly they were funded pretty well this year he decided to try to recapture his past and put it all into the OL which has been mediocre but this is cap mgt 101 now. It’s not that there isn’t money it’s that they didn’t utilize it well and pick the right pieces relative to $. They’ll never get all of the obvious guys no matter what system is used in cfb but you can still win. You just have to be a good coach to make some of that up. He’s the same game coach he was as an incoming coordinator.
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Sandman would get up and leave.Sandman would enter.
There is no way VT admin is gonna hire Stoops. If they did it would be great for both parties. I for one could care less about UL fans posting on here.
I don’t care about UL fans posting here, lol. I do care when they call a referee, with threats, acting like a UK fan.
I know they won’t hire him, even if some idiot UK fans flood their athletic department acting like VA tech fans.
It was an observation. But I do believe you are the one who started the ad hominem attacks. If you can't take it, didn't start it.
May this gentleman be more credible than our infamous ‘Bobby Petrino is coming to UK, we talked on the phone over Thanksgiving dinner’ source. Amen.
If those downvotes are any indication, those Hokies just don’t understand the allure of a fully motivated and rejuvenated Mark Stoops.
That’s actually hilarious.
Iowas new AD will never hire Mark or Bob or any Stopps or Ferentz. Right or wrong she will go outside the Iowa family tree.
Why in the world would she not hire Bob, if that was an option? Their fans to this day wish Iowa had hired him decades ago, just like UK fans pine over Schellenberger. I doubt he wants to deal with it now- but, if he did, it would be crazy not make the call.
I think he would be a better than average coach in the ACC . It is probably not a bad Choice for tech depending upon whoever else is in the mix . He is just not an SEC caliber coach .It was a semi-facetious suggestion. I’m under no belief that scores of fans will take to social media as a result of a message board post and bring about some effect or change in the Stoops saga. Hence the
Thinking beyond VT, I’m also under no real belief that any program (including them) that he himself would consider would actually be interested in him in return. We are moving toward a contentious buyout scenario or relying on him taking a much “lesser” job just to get out the door. I’m inclined to believe the former option.
100% Accurate and why there is some truth to the "microwave fans" description for all of us. We are creatures of the moment and forget pretty easily the past after the emotions fade. Same can be said of Mitch though as the problem is he and other athletic directors continue to get caught up in the moment of good times and offer these crazy contracts like the honeymoon will never end. Reality is it ALWAYS does and thats the tough part about where we are now. No question Stoops and Co should be appreciated for what he did and just because its not working now its no reason to turn him into the enemy. But the other reality is it really does look like he's not capable of turning this thing back around and in that case its time to shake hands and move on.
That’s not true. You have no idea what the NIL situation is at UK you’re just a Stoops lover that cares more about him than you do the program.
Bob is 66 years old. KF will be in his early 70s when he leaves.
Similar to men’s bb I think the AD will seek out a somewhat younger, more dynamic coach.
iowa has become too provincial in the football program under KF. Consistently solid but just too insular.
if you listen to some of these stoops fan club guys, Penn state should be after stoops since he’s doing such a good job here
No way. Our best bet is someone like pj fleck takes the job and minnesota hires Stoops. VA tech is too big a name for him.
Besides, im sure Beamer is their top choice
Besides, im sure Beamer is their top choice
It doesn't matter who the staff picks. It only matters who picks UK. We missed on a lot of the best talent because they went to other schools. That happens when you either can't find or keep an OC that can run what we need them to run. It also happens when the coach is on the hot seat, and the staff is leaving. It happens even more when you're not Alabama.
He's definitely struggling right now, and it's his own doing that got him and us here.
Stoops had dinner with the AD or someone influential in VT athletics this past weekend. Doesn't mean they'll hire him. Doesn't mean he'd take the job. It's OK to use reason sometimes. It's OK to be wrong about whether someone would want to hire him
No doubt it’s difficult to recruit offensive players when you’ve only put out one functional offense in thirteen seasons
UK has 2 major doners, Tennessee, Bama, LSU Florida, have 10 major doners. Doesn't take much research to find out that UK is at the bottom of the NIL received. So, I do have an ideal as any long time UK fan knows. The Lexington Herald reports 22 million went to the BB program that's pre-season ranked in the top 10. Stoops tried to bail out from UK when he saw the writing on the wall with the lions share of NIL money going to the BB. He would have went for a cut in his pay speaks for itself. Been following UK for 57 years I know what Stoops has contributed to UK FB. 20 and 30 year winning streaks by Florida and Tennessee, 0-10-1, 2-9, 4-7 seasons. 50 to 0 leads at half-time. But now the angry mob wants Stoops gone it's made UK FB toxic. Mark my words the next coach will never do nearly as well as Stoops has done at UK. Lack of NIL money, BB first at UK no good coach or players want anything to do with UK FB.
Now I remember why I had you on ignore in the past. Smh you’re one of those weird Stoops fan boys
You smart. Does that dispute what I said? It’s why he had to push gran out when he did.