Stoops' Offense and the truth about the Air Raid

KY1WING

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Where does Cal with Dykes/Franklin rank?

Do sacks count as rushing attempts or passing attempts? If it's rushing it's skewing our numbers.

Brother Bob lured Leach from UK. TTU hired him away and the next season they won the national championship. When asked about that offense the OC said we're running Leach's system, just changed increased the run to pass ratio a bit.
 

BlueRaider22

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I think it's execution. For whatever reason (personnel, coaching) we can barely execute plays (even simple ones) at a regular tempo. Going up tempo would magnify this much more.

Like Bud Kilmer in Varsity Blues said, "You dummy-o's can't even run a simple draw and you're trying to run the oopty-oop. Gimme a break.......oopty-effin-oop......gimme a break."
 

mtn cat1

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We havent seen what Stoops really wants on O because of personnel. We had Whitlow, who wasnt a dependable passer at all.

Since, we've had Towles who just cant rid of the ball on time. He's notorious for holding the ball, despite the fact the offense and protection is based on quick throws. With Barker, we'll see more of what Stoops envisions for our O. But it will require us getting first downs, which is far from a given.

"With Barker, we'll see more of what Stoops envisions for our Offense", is that your contention?
Now you have me totally baffled, "we dare not play Barker, he has no experience", " we have to play Towles because he gives us the best chance of winning", or " Towles is our best qb & that is why he was chosen as the qb"!!!!!!!
Did I list all the reasons that Barker was not playing or being given an opportunity to qb the team??????????????????????????????
 

Ctroberts1024

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Where does Cal with Dykes/Franklin rank?

Do sacks count as rushing attempts or passing attempts? If it's rushing it's skewing our numbers.

Brother Bob lured Leach from UK. TTU hired him away and the next season they won the national championship. When asked about that offense the OC said we're running Leach's system, just changed increased the run to pass ratio a bit.

407 passes to 360 rushes so that's a 53% - 47% pass to run.

And they are counted as rushing attempts. Even with that, Towles still +64 rushing yards but it does hurt our yards per attempt.

I think it's less about pass/run ratios and more about tempo. For it to work, especially with a suspect O-line, you've got to run plays at a much faster pace than we have been doing.

Oh I agree. But I think there's a direct correlation between the two. Probably 9 out of 10 times, once an explosive play occurs, most offenses hurry to the line and run the ball. So typically, the team's with the higher yards per attempt passing or rushing, use more tempo because they have more explosive plays and try to catch teams off guard after the big play.

But we REALLY need to use tempo from here on out. Screw this running the play clock to below 15 and snapping it. We should set a goal this weekend to try to snap every ball with 20+ seconds on the play clock just to see if 1) we can do it and 2) how effective we are with it and if we need to use it from here on out (I think we should).
 
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I think it's execution. For whatever reason (personnel, coaching) we can barely execute plays (even simple ones) at a regular tempo. Going up tempo would magnify this much more.

We cant get tempo up because we cant stay on the field. Going 3 and out all the time doesnt let you use tempo to wear down the D.

"With Barker, we'll see more of what Stoops envisions for our Offense", is that your contention?
Now you have me totally baffled, "we dare not play Barker, he has no experience", " we have to play Towles because he gives us the best chance of winning", or " Towles is our best qb & that is why he was chosen as the qb"!!!!!!!
Did I list all the reasons that Barker was not playing or being given an opportunity to qb the team??????????????????????????????

No offense, but I really dont understand your post. Are you trying to say Im defending Towles too much? Or Im attacking Towles too much?
 

Kai Slater

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Yeah, man, I love the "Air Raid" and all the excitement it brings when UK goes up and down the field for the big TD !!! Then that huge siren goes off to get the crowd PUMPED.

I love it!!!
 

qwesley

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There is a great 60 Mins feature on Leach from a few years ago where they go over all the quick decisions the QB has the make. The whole premise is using tempo to create chaos and having a QB that can identify what is exposed. None of that is happening here.
 

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I think the big confusion with some people is the term "air raid." The only team I can think of off the top of my head that still runs the true air raid is Washington State. A lot of coaches have come from the air raid tree, but don't run the actual air raid anymore....

What this means for UK:
If we compare ratios for this season, we are closest to (ironically enough) Troy and Neal Brown.
The concerning thing is that, although Dawson has said numerous time he wants to throw the ball downfield, we are dead last among those teams listed in yards per pass attempt at 6.39 yards. Obviously, we just aren't explosive enough in the passing game. That doesn't mean we don't throw it downfield enough (but I think we need to more), it's a combination of the deep ball and when we do complete passes, we aren't breaking a lot of tackles and getting YAC.

I don't think there is a perfect ratio because it will change based on how each game goes. That said, the common denominator between the REALLY good offenses is 9+ yards per passing attempt and 4+ yards per carry. Our rushing attack is getting what is needed. Our passing game has to be way more explosive than what we are now. That doesn't necessarily mean start throwing bombs. But we have to start making more people miss. This will be even more important now with Barker because I think we will see more of a short to intermediate passing game.
Just saw this. Excellent post ctroberts! Terrific point about YPA. This is a great metric for looking at the passing game that a lot of fans don't really understand. I suppose because the "number" tends to be low. Anything above 8 YPA is "good" and above 9 is outstanding. Each year the national median seems to be around 7 YPA . The median (#64) this year is 7.1. The Cats are #102 at 6.2 which reflects a short (and likely inaccurate) passing game.

FWIW, some years back I did a fairly detailed study of "common characteristics of good (i.e, 9 game winners) football teams". I looked at about 30 common stats over a 3 year period. The most significant offensive stat was YPA.

Peace
 

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^Hey Wild,

As you said, it's generally good coaching practice to utilize the talents you have at your disposal. I completely agree.

What is your take on Dawson? This is what frustrates me about him. I generally try very hard not to completely judge someone on their first and only year body of work, but I'm struggling.
-Towles/Barker have a strength in their mobility, but Dawson goes out of his way to resist using it.
-We have 2 other RB's who are much more suited for goaline ability over Boom, but Boom generally gets the nod.....despite his poor conditioning to the fact that when they finally get down near the goal, he's gassed.
-etc.

To me that's not utilizing the talents you have to the best of your ability.

Well, I thought he was a good replacement in terms of following up on what Brown had started. IOW, not going to reinvent the wheel. He was not the play caller at WVA but their recent style of play seemed to be what Brown and Stoops were angling toward. So it looked like a good fit.

As far as "using your talent" I'm not sure what to say. My previous reference to "utilizing your talents" was IRF going outside your normal offensive philosophy to take advantage of a unique talent that happens to be on your team. My specific example was Bridgewater should have been allowed to pass the ball more during his time at UofL because he was very, very good at it. This is Stoop's 3rd year and while you may not have the players you really want (do you ever?) shouldn't you should be past the point of "doing something different" (e.g., QB run game) just to play to what you do have? FWIW, I say again this staff has really mishandled the QB situation since year one.

Towles has proven to be a mediocre at best passer. As I noted in another thread, really not much difference between him and Whitlow when you adjust for number of passing attempts. Consequently, his performance has limited the contributions of what was believed to be a good WR corp although they have been somewhat beleaguered by drops. Nonetheless, I really like Johnson.

So the only real offensive talent I see that they could "play to" is Boom Williams. He is a dynamic scatback type runner but probably not the best choice in the RZ unless going wide. Other RBs are "average" (meaning not near as good as Boom). Boom is averaging 12 carries/game. He is the real home run threat in the UK offense. I would try to get him up to about 20 carries/game (or more) if he can handle the load. One of those extra 8 carries might be a long one.

But, all in all, Cardinal fans fully understand the position Dawson is in. When your O-line is weak it is hard to make anything work on a consistent basis. All JMO.

Peace
 
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The Brooks

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How many times you run or pass doesn't change what the offense is called.

If you play madden you can pick any offense you want and run or pass as much as you want out of any of those playbooks... What makes a playbook is which pass plays and route types are contained within it etc

I run a west coast but I run the ball a ton i just like the plays available in west coast better than ground and pound. I guess point being you can change the balance all you want but the football community is still going to refer to the offense the same way. We're running an air raid but running more than other teams might do
 
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HalHR2500

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Head coach doesn't want tempo, afraid his defense will get exposed with too many quick 3 and outs.....
 

WildcatDJ

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I don't expect we'll see a consistently fast tempo unless we're ever able to go 2-3 deep defensively.