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IWasWayOff

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about 40 pledges to sit around someone who sits in our area and ring cowbells in their ears til they move. Works like a charm. I dropped more than a few grand....which is <span style="font-style: italic;">exactly</span> why I am entitled to those seats. Also, there is a clause on the back of the tickets as well that says, "Greeks get to sit where they please, enjoy the 'top corner at the goal line.'"
 
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jealous apparently and still holds a grudge. Sheesh man, youre almost 30 and still apparently hold some ill fillings. Grow up. 5 to save 15 rows? We would send 40 to 50 and save 5 to 7 rows. Big difference, and i didnt feel entitled to anything. You claim you paid the same as everyone else and it has the same conditions yet you change the rules when it doesnt directly involve fraternities.

Why do you types always throw the dropping money for friends things? Never understood that one. Can the same be said about joining a country club? That is the same thing...it is a social club with folks like yourselves that has perks. No different than bsu or any other "club"...hell, i joined a social club when i moved to hattiesburg to have parties once a month. why? so folks my age could gather at the same time at the same place to have a good time.
 

AlCoDog

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Not everybody's "diddy" paid for their fraternity. Personally, if i was going to "buy" my friends, my friends would be hot females that were about to <17> me.
 

seshomoru

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AlCoDog said:
Not everybody's "diddy" paid for their fraternity. Personally, if i was going to "buy" my friends, my friends would be hot females that were about to <17> me.
And you don't want them to come to your wedding.
 

MeridianDog

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Will Greeks be required to sit in that penalty box?

My thought is they can't have it both ways.

I'd Tattoo'em with a big F on their forehead and any found seated outside of the Frat-box would be kicked out of the stadium.
 

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IWasWayOff said:
has Greek seating as well. But in order to get your "block" of seating for football games you have to have a certain amount of "Spirit Points." So you have to go to a certain amount of volleyball games, swimming meets, stuff like that to get enough "Spirit Points" to get the seats you want.
That's close to right. Any student organization can accumulate spirit points and qualify for block seating. So the Baptist Student Union, Army ROTC, and others can take a shot at those seats as well. And it's not just sporting events that get spirit points. Campus speakers or other events sometimes count too.
 

vhdawg

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....typically that got us 2-3 rows behind the fence somewhere between the 40-50 yard line. We laughed if any pledges came up with the "seats saved" line.

Of course, there was that one time we didn't have to deal with that situation, when we showed up an hour and a half before the Troy State game in 2001, during the thunderstorm, and there were exactly seven people in the student section including us when we got there. For some reason the frat rats didn't show up and lay their claim that day.
 

MrHooch

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Roy Munson said:
from ole hooch. Sheesh man, some "frat guy" must have laid the wood to your ole lady real good. I love how some of the "non frat guys" have this hatred toward them. I dont care if you were/are in a fraternity or a sorority. Hell, my fiance wasnt in a sorority. Many of my friends werent in a fraternity. The ole paying for your friends argument. love that one....Those same 18 friends thus far that i have been in their weddings...man, money well spent i guess. How old are you by the way?
Hard to have penis envy on you when you're so obviously a *****. But that's neither here nor there.

I was actually pretty good friends with a few Delta Chis and some ATO's...I don't have hatred toward frat daddies...what I have is a dislike towards ***-hats who have a sense of entitlement because daddy has a lot of money, etc. etc. To echo what HD6 said, it's one thing to hold a seat for your lady...it's another to send some booze-soaked ***-clown to hold an entire section, instructing them to threaten anyone who sits in their supposedly designated seats with hazing and in some cases violence, just because you're too lazy to get your *** to the game on time. If this doesn't apply to you then disregard it. Sounds to me like you're getting defensive.
Funny enough every time me and my 5 or so friends were threatened in this manner we just laughed and said 'do your worst.' Their worst never consisted of more than ugly looks and muttered insults under their breath. More often than not we would end up talking with/having fun with/knowing a few of the greeks that came and sat by us. The sad, simple fact is none of this is EVER brought up until some frat-daddy gets his panties in a wad because he can't sit where he wants. I've NEVER heard of a GDI trying to rope off sections of student seating and threatening people if they try to sit there.
Oh and I don't know why it matters, but I'm 33.
 

AlCoDog

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I prefer the term prostitute, and my point was I personally would not pay for my friends, but if I did.........
 
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like i said...i dont care one way or the other. I dont have to save seats and havent in 10 years. I now sit in my daddys seats on the other side that he paid a lot of money for me to sit in. Savvy?
 

seshomoru

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It sounds like an ok idea. At least for the possiblity of future donations. Even if some of those future donations are daddy's money. Whether it holds true or not at MSU, I dunno, but interesting nonetheless: LINK

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<div style="font-weight: bold;" class="titlegroup"> <div class="title-document"> Alumni Donations and Colleges'Development Expenditures: <span class="i">Does Spending Matter?</span> </div> </div> <div class="author-info"> <span class="name"><span class="forenames">W<span class="smallcapitals">illian</span> B.</span> <span class="surname">H<span class="smallcapitals">arrison</span></span>*</span>, <span class="name"><span class="forenames">S<span class="smallcapitals">hannon</span> K.</span> <span class="surname">M<span class="smallcapitals">itchell</span></span>,*</span> <span class="name"><span class="forenames">S<span class="smallcapitals">teven</span> P.</span> <span class="surname">P<span class="smallcapitals">eterson</span></span>*</span> <div class="addresses"> <span class="address"><a class="invisible-anchor" name="a1"> </a> <span id="a1"><span class="number">*</span>Willian B. Harrison, PhD., is associate professor of economics and Shannon K. Mitchell and Steven P. Peterson are assistant professors of economics at Virginia Commonwealth University, 1015 Floyd Avenue, Richmond, VA 23284-4000. Gratitude is expressed to the referees of the Journal.</span></span> </div> </div> <div class="header-footnotes"> <div class="bpg40copyright"> Copyright 1995 American Journal of Economics and Sociology, Inc. </div> </div> <div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" class="abstract-content" id="abstract"> <div class="summary"> <div class="header_divide"> <h1 class="abstract-title" id="h0">ABSTRACT</h1> </div> <table> <tbody> <tr> <td>
</td> <td> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="para">Since college development officers supply recognition to alumni and seek donations in return a model is devised wherein this exercise of market power in the exchange is included. Data for three years is used from eighteen universities and colleges-public and private, large and small, research and teaching oriented. The findings indicate that schools with higher <span class="i">development</span> costs generate substantially more donations. Several demographic characteristics of the student body were tested. <span style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">Schools with higher participation in</span> <span style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;" class="i">fraternities</span> <span style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">and</span> <span style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;" class="i">sororities</span> <span style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">have higher giving</span>, while schools with a higher proportion of part-time <span class="i">students</span> have lower giving. <span style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">Surprisingly, having an NCAA Division I</span> <span style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;" class="i">athletic program</span> <span style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">has no significant effect on alumni giving.</span> Likewise, <span class="i">alumni donations</span> seem independent of whether a school is public or private, or is or is not a research institution. Finally, the size of a school's <span class="i">endowment</span> has no predictive value, but the level of annual bequests is strongly positively related to <span class="i">alumni giving.</span></p> </div> </div>
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MrHooch

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AlCoDog said:
Not everybody's "diddy" paid for their fraternity. Personally, if i was going to "buy" my friends, my friends would be hot females that were about to <17> me.
Like that's not what you do already...douche.
 

TDAWG.sixpack

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because i have heard it about 10, 100 or even a thousand times. We Saved Seats but guess what, our frat sat at the end of the student section about halfway up. Those were chosen for a few reasons. One, you could easily keep the group together because those seats are obviously not everyones first, second or even third choice. Two, the pledges wouldn't have to get there when the gates opened to get them. Three, you only have to worry about cops coming from one side.
I am not going to try to start more **** that has already been started, but i do have something to say.
Greeks are rarely awarded for the good deeds performed, but when someone not affiliated with a fraternity gets alcohol poisoning because he/she does not know how to hold their liquor then its SHAME ON FRATS.
Hazing is wrong of course, but if a random person comes and gets fubar then its about 90% their damn fault.
 
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most fraternity and sorority members are more involved than others on campus, come back to much more events and give back more money. Not to mention it is a great resume builder and networking tool for interviews and potential jobs. 90% of those i have interviewed with or dealt with in a networking fashion were in a fraternity. Hell, many were in the same one i was. It just gives you another edge in the "real world" because of networking and you having a common bond with them. My current boss was the pres of his fraternity at tulane and is the pres of this company. It didnt hurt that we were able to have a common bond.
 
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hooch1275 said:
Roy Munson said:
from ole hooch. Sheesh man, some "frat guy" must have laid the wood to your ole lady real good. I love how some of the "non frat guys" have this hatred toward them. I dont care if you were/are in a fraternity or a sorority. Hell, my fiance wasnt in a sorority. Many of my friends werent in a fraternity. The ole paying for your friends argument. love that one....Those same 18 friends thus far that i have been in their weddings...man, money well spent i guess. How old are you by the way?
Hard to have penis envy on you when you're so obviously a *****. But that's neither here nor there.

I was actually pretty good friends with a few Delta Chis and some ATO's...I don't have hatred toward frat daddies...what I have is a dislike towards ***-hats who have a sense of entitlement because daddy has a lot of money, etc. etc. To echo what HD6 said, it's one thing to hold a seat for your lady...it's another to send some booze-soaked ***-clown to hold an entire section, instructing them to threaten anyone who sits in their supposedly designated seats with hazing and in some cases violence, just because you're too lazy to get your *** to the game on time. If this doesn't apply to you then disregard it. Sounds to me like you're getting defensive.
Funny enough every time me and my 5 or so friends were threatened in this manner we just laughed and said 'do your worst.' Their worst never consisted of more than ugly looks and muttered insults under their breath. More often than not we would end up talking with/having fun with/knowing a few of the greeks that came and sat by us. The sad, simple fact is none of this is EVER brought up until some frat-daddy gets his panties in a wad because he can't sit where he wants. <span style="font-weight: bold;">I've NEVER heard of a GDI trying to rope off sections of student seating and threatening people if they try to sit there.</span>
Oh and I don't know why it matters, but I'm 33.
Isn't that what Rick's Rowdies is?
 

AlCoDog

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You got me. Please don't tell my wife. Hard to get one past a guy who has a picture of Tony Danza. And I'm the douche?</p>
 

TDAWG.sixpack

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I will list a few of these. Note these are performed each year
+$15,000 each year to the Palmer Home for Children (Orphanage for those unfamiliar with it)
Cleaning a two mile stretch of HWY 25 twice a year
Cleaning up an Old Cemetary in West Point
Putting in over 1000 man hours on the Gulf Coast after Katrina
Volunteering at Suddeth Middle School
There are many others that i cant think of right now
I am not trying to say that I dislike people who aren't greek, but give people in greek life some credit for some of the **** that we do/did.
I would be willing to bet that combining all of the greek organizations together that over $250,000 have been raised for the community. I know for sure that Chi O's donated over $30,000 to the make a wish foundation last year.

Result: Kiss my *** and give us some credit
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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Why do you types always throw the dropping money for friends things?
Because that's what it is. You paid money, scratch that, daddy paid money so you could be in the "in-crowd".

Can the same be said about joining a country club?
Yes.

But hey, I don't hold it against anyone. If that's your thing, go for it.
 

MrHooch

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Roy Munson said:
like i said...i dont care one way or the other. I dont have to save seats and havent in 10 years. I now sit in my daddys seats on the other side that he paid a lot of money for me to sit in. Savvy?
So tough...yeah it's obvious that you don't care by all your responses to everyone with a dissenting opinion. You win.
 

Ivehadbetter

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MadDawg said:
Why do you types always throw the dropping money for friends things?
Because that's what it is. You paid money, scratch that, daddy paid money so you could be in the "in-crowd".

Can the same be said about joining a country club?
Yes.

But hey, I don't hold it against anyone. If that's your thing, go for it.

I paid my own way through a fraternity and know several of my buddies that did the same. I never got the impression in college that greek affiliation was an accurate indicator of wealth or "daddy's wealth."
 
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you can't help but notice the residual anger that HD6 and others have toward Greek people. Oh yeah, congratulations on your awesome frat boy judgement.
 
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just never understood that angle. Think it simplifies it too much especially because ive never heard anyone that was in a fraternity say it, although im sure some have. Hell, i didnt like everyone in my fraternity, and i damn sure didnt like most in others...I chose to be friends with the ones i liked, and they are still the same ones that i visit, tailgate with, talk to and marry off. And now at the age where 6 of the bastards are pregnant. Just dont see how joining something, anything, is paying for friends. Also, my dad paid for 2 semesters out of the 8 that i had to pay.
 

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Ivehadbetter said:
I paid my own way through a fraternity and know several of my buddies that did the same. I never got the impression in college that greek affiliation was an accurate indicator of wealth or "daddy's wealth."
It may indicate wealth to most but on the flip side a lot of the guys are only getting a portion of their dues paid by parents.

Getting back to the real argument... Having a Greek only section here would be dumb at least for now. Not til our greek system gets even bigger than it might be a thing to look at. For the ones arguing about the seat saving being a load of bs then thats a problem you put yourself into. Get to the game earlier if you want that specific seat the fraternities might be taking from you.
 

lawdawg02

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but don't expect us to bow in admiration to your fraternity's amazing philanthropical resume.

Cleaning a two mile stretch of HWY 25 twice a year
Cleaning up an Old Cemetary in West Point
Putting in over 1000 man hours on the Gulf Coast after Katrina
making the pledges clean the highway? come on. cleaning an old cemetary? you're up to about one whole saturday. 1000 man hours? with 50 guys, that's 20 hours each. you also said these things are performed each year, but list man hours post katrina, which was 3 years ago. but that's beside the point.

i just want you to realize that you (greeks) are not the only group of people that serves the community. are you doing good things? yes. but don't get all high and mighty because you made some freshmen pick up trash on the highway one saturday morning.

Result: Kiss my *** and give us some credit
it's great that you and others raise money for orphanages and other charities. you certainly deserve credit for that, and i can definitely appreciate those efforts.
 

MrHooch

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TDAWG said:
because i have heard it about 10, 100 or even a thousand times. We Saved Seats but guess what, our frat sat at the end of the student section about halfway up. Those were chosen for a few reasons. One, you could easily keep the group together because those seats are obviously not everyones first, second or even third choice. Two, the pledges wouldn't have to get there when the gates opened to get them. Three, you only have to worry about cops coming from one side.
I am not going to try to start more **** that has already been started, but i do have something to say.
Greeks are rarely awarded for the good deeds performed, but when someone not affiliated with a fraternity gets alcohol poisoning because he/she does not know how to hold their liquor then its SHAME ON FRATS.
Hazing is wrong of course, but if a random person comes and gets fubar then its about 90% their damn fault.
The people that blame frats for some douchebag getting alcohol poisoning at a frat party are the same dipshits that say that TV and rap music are the causes for things like Columbine.
 

MrHooch

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Roy Munson said:
<span style="font-weight: bold;">most fraternity and sorority members are more involved than others on campus, come back to much more events and give back more money.</span> Not to mention it is a great resume builder and networking tool for interviews and potential jobs. 90% of those i have interviewed with or dealt with in a networking fashion were in a fraternity. Hell, many were in the same one i was. It just gives you another edge in the "real world" because of networking and you having a common bond with them. My current boss was the pres of his fraternity at tulane and is the pres of this company. It didnt hurt that we were able to have a common bond.
I agree with 90% of your post...but that first line there? I'm just curious how you quantify that?
 

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hooch1275 said:
Roy Munson said:
<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">most fraternity and sorority members are more involved than others on campus, come back to much more events and give back more money.</span> Not to mention it is a great resume builder and networking tool for interviews and potential jobs. 90% of those i have interviewed with or dealt with in a networking fashion were in a fraternity. Hell, many were in the same one i was. It just gives you another edge in the "real world" because of networking and you having a common bond with them. My current boss was the pres of his fraternity at tulane and is the pres of this company. It didnt hurt that we were able to have a common bond.
I agree with 90% of your post...but that first line there? I'm just curious how you quantify that?
the president of the sa is greek. along with a lot of the sa senators. leo seal was greek, hunter henry was greek. names of rooms in mccool and other buildings are named after people that were in greek organizations. there's a few reasons.
 
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I dont really give a **** if you were in a frat or not. I had alot of greek and non-greek friends so I care less if you one or not. I'm entitled to that seat just as much as you were so we sat where we pleased.
 

studentdawg87

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Pledges still save seats and I have never seen any pledge threaten a non fraternity member. Hell I enjoyed saving seats it was fun unless it was an early game. Most people quickly leave when they realize there is a whole lot more pleasant places to sit than in the fraternity section where every time we score whiskey drinks are going flying.</p>
 

saddawg

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I was sent to save seats. Me and a pledge brother, who was as big a 17 up as I was, would go to the stadium and stay under the stands drinking. The other pledges would go try to make the actives happy and save seats. They were good ole boys. Never ratted us out. True brothers. Except one *** kissing **** head.

Me and <redacted> would just say we went to take a piss and got into it with some Pike pledges.

We'd take our cussing and do a 6 am Sunday work detail. It beat arguing with Dorm Rats over seats for a ****** team with a 1-10 record.

Noticed some of my boys carried on a fine State tradition of whipping up on some recruit's ***.

Advice to pledges who are reading this now........

Don't go after sorority pledges. They all want actives. Go after the Jrs and Srs. They just want it.

Also, if somebody sends you to save seats, just sit under the stadium and drink. And tell the actives a bunch of dorm rats called the cops on you for trying to save seats.

In other words, be a 17 up.

It's more fun.