Now you have it. DOOMED, that's the word for this program. It's doomed. Schiano moved it forward and soon, it'll be back to the Terry Shea era.
Suck it up. Next year is the year Flood will be judged.
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Now you have it. DOOMED, that's the word for this program. It's doomed. Schiano moved it forward and soon, it'll be back to the Terry Shea era.
I believe it's 11 blowout losses out of 31 overall games the past 3 seasons. It means that Flood roughly averages a blowout loss once every 3 games.
Mike Rice, and not being able to understand what was going on seemingly for having an outdated Windows Media Player- not for what happened but how it was handled. Granted TP had a role in that. But then the whole way JH came on board, and Eddie with the missing degree, and the video being viral...it was not good.
Like I said, maybe Barchi is a great academic success- AND that is more important. But he needs to have some idea about athletics because he, fairly or not, needs to help get us out of the mess TP created without making it worse.
Why do you think it's likely the next hire will be just as bad? That's what I don't get. Flood basically got the job by default as Rutgers got caught in a panic.
The next coach will likely have head coaching experience and experience running a program -- something Flood did not have. The hope is that the next coach will always have winning experience. History has shown that most of the best coaches at P5 schools had winning experience at the lower levels. So, even if Rutgers doesn't open the band for an established name, there are people much more affordable that could be the next coaching legend.
Flood really hasn't shown much in his time here to warrant the support that some give him. He really hasn't.
There is not a coach in America with a larger amount of scandal, arrests, and LOSING than Flood.
The chances of it being worse than Flood are essentially zero. It's a BS argument and everyone knows it.
The Floodies are just parroting Towers now because they have run out of "man of integrity" and other propaganda.
The chances of it being worse than Flood are essentially zero. It's a BS argument and everyone knows it.
The Floodies are just parroting Towers now because they have run out of "man of integrity" and other propaganda.
First of all, you took my post way too seriously. But...
Just being better than Flood is pointless. A coach can be way better than Flood and still not beat most of the teams in the Big Ten East. Which is part of why I keep harping on the theme that talking about firing Flood is wasting one's breath. Firing people is easy. Hiring good people is really hard. The discussion should be 99.9% on what comes after Flood.
Our schedule's not likely to get easier anytime soon. I think it's unrealistic to expect RU to spend enough money to hire a coach that can really kill it in recruiting, that can attract the sort of coordinators that can go head-to-head with OSU and Michigan in game-day adjustments, etc.
In other words, we're likely to be just one of the many CFB teams that makes a change hoping for better just to find out over the span of 5 years that things aren't so very much better. The odds are that we'll have an unhappy fan base again at that point and we'll be having these same discussions. Not saying it's gonna be that way; but the odds are not in our favor at the amounts RU is likely to spend.
Given all that, I was joking about how, by talking about patience now, I can always claim in 5 years that we weren't patient enough (which, as I already pointed out, will be completely ********).
Get it?
--- Floodies, waa, waa, FIRE, FIRE, heh, heh, Floodies, Floodies, aaiiieeeeeeeeee!!!!!
What exactly is your position on this? I enjoy your posts and your sense of humor, but I am not sure what YOU would want if it was your decision.--- Floodies, waa, waa, FIRE, FIRE, heh, heh, Floodies, Floodies, aaiiieeeeeeeeee!!!!!
I'd like to see Flood gone, but not if it means some cheapo hire. Hoping Julie and company have their ducks in a row.
I would fire Flood at the end of this season and spend 10MM on a new coaching staff. The goal would be to would hire a head coach that has at least some name-recognition among HS players to help us recruit. And I'd look for a head coach that has a proven history - not some up-and-comer unknown quantity.
I don't like the idea of hiring just to "be competitive" w/elite Big Ten teams. Anybody that thinks our fans will be happy with 6-6 seasons just because we're competitive in our losses is being delusional. IMO, in RU's unique situation here in NJ, we need to be able to win 9+ games most seasons in order to build the sort of fanatical following that makes success self-perpetuating.
I don't actually think it's as urgent as some here clearly think, but ultimately, RU needs to **** or get off the pot about the Football and/or Basketball program(s). We need to get serious to enjoy the benefits of big time athletics program. Success breeds success. If we start winning regularly, recruiting and fund-raising will take off.
I have little interest in firing Flood just to hire the typical, average, wishful-thinking coaching staff in the hope that we can keep our losses within single digits. To me, that just cements us in a perpetual state of purgatory.
I think we are in agreement except the $10 million part. The position about hiring someone so we don't get blown out but are still 6-6 is not palatable. However, Urban and Harbaugh will not stay in their positions forever. We can hope to close the gap and strike in down years.
When a team has so little moral fiber that a bunch of players go on a gang banging crime spree against fellow students, that is on the coach. He sets the tone. Yea, I know that Rutgers is poor as hell and can't afford to play in this league. Catch 22. How many contracts are we still paying off? But Flood was never anything more than a quick, convenient fix.