TCU hosts West Virginia again having to win finale for bowl

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TCU hosts West Virginia again having to win finale for bowl
STEPHEN HAWKINS (AP Sports Writer)

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) -- Garret Wallow and TCU are in the same position again, having to win their last regular season game just to get bowl eligible.

''It's definitely like last year's situation. Definitely very intense,'' said Wallow, the junior linebacker and Big 12 leading tackler. ''It's on the line, so all of us want to make it to a bowl game, all of us want to give the seniors the best season they can have.''

While the current seniors made it to the Big 12 championship game in 2017, this could be the third time in four years that TCU finishes the regular season with exactly six wins - just enough to get to a bowl

The Horned Frogs (5-6, 3-5 Big 12) have to win Friday at home against West Virginia (4-7, 2-6), or will miss a bowl for only the third time in coach Gary Patterson's 19 seasons. They had to win their final two games last year, and did that before beating California in the Cheez-It Bowl.

Five of their six losses this season are by a touchdown or less, including 28-24 at No. 7 Oklahoma last Saturday night, when the Frogs thought they had forced a fourth down late before the reviewed spot gave the Sooners a first down and allowed them to run out the clock.

''It means that we're close, it means we haven't made enough plays,'' Patterson said of all the one-score games. ''It means that you have enough ability to be close, but ... either we're screwing things up or we're not making the right calls, or we're not right there yet to be able to make those plays.''

West Virginia's bowl hopes under first-year coach Neal Brown, the former Texas Tech offensive coordinator, ended last week in a 20-13 home loss to No. 21 Oklahoma State.

''I believe our guys will show up and play hard. ... I think it's about two things from a motivational factor: sending the seniors out on a positive manner and having a building block going into our offseason,'' Brown said. ''We need to finish this on a positive note.''

OFFENSIVE SPARK

Bowling Green transfer quarterback Jarret Doege is 59-of-85 passing (69.4%) for 660 yards with five touchdowns and no interceptions in three games. He started the last two, and will retain his eligibility as a junior next season even after playing the finale.

''I think they like the way he throws the ball around. They've changed the offense,'' Patterson said.

FINDING POSITIVES

Brown has had to deal with youth, injuries and some players leaving the team. He did find a positive in the Oklahoma State loss, with the Cowboys getting held to 285 total yards and national rushing leader Chuba Hubbard's 106 rushing yards being his fewest since early September.

''Defensively, overall, a really good performance. We got fatigued in the fourth quarter,'' Brown said. ''Some of that is because we don't have a whole lot of depth. The defensive line and the secondary, it's kind of a culmination into Week 11 playing a lot of snaps.''

TOO MANY TACKLES?

Wallow leads the Big 12 with 10.3 tackles per game, and his 113 total tackles (68 solo, 45 assists) are nearly twice as many as the next-closest TCU player: sophomore safety Trevon Moehrig has 58.

''It's not a good thing when somebody has this many tackles. That means a lot of guys are not making tackles,'' Patterson said. ''In respect to Garret, is you have the ability to make those tackles. ... He's one of our leaders. He's been a captain all year and we're glad he's coming back next year.''

MAKING THEM COUNT

West Virginia receiver George Campbell, a graduate transfer from Florida State, has 19 receptions this season. Seven have gone for touchdowns, and he averages 24.7 yards per catch.

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AP Sports Writer John Raby contributed to this report.
 
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Best 5-6 program I have seen in this conference for awhile.
They have completely dominated below average teams in Kansas and Purdue.

Whoever plays them in a bowl better be ready.
Probably get a PAC team in the Cheez it Bowl.

Just as long as WVU shows some fight in this game I don't think you can complain.
 

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Best 5-6 program I have seen in this conference for awhile.
They have completely dominated below average teams in Kansas and Purdue.

Whoever plays them in a bowl better be ready.
Probably get a PAC team in the Cheez it Bowl.

Just as long as WVU shows some fight in this game I don't think you can complain.

If it is all the same to you Nostradamus, I think we will play the game today and see what happens without conceding that TCU will end up bowl eligible.
 
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If it is all the same to you Nostradamus, I think we will play the game today and see what happens without conceding that TCU will end up bowl eligible.

It is going to be a tough game.
WVU could win it but they are going to need to raise their level.

When you can't run the ball on TCU it is hard to beat their defense
A) Have to find a way to run the ball
Or
B) You have to throw over the top to open Running lanes

It is the type of game that your weaknesses on the LOS will be apparent

Mainly because when they get the advantage they pound you again and again.
 

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TVSHIT knows all. He has already given TCU the victory. No need to kickoff. Just adjust the records.
 

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It is going to be a tough game.
WVU could win it but they are going to need to raise their level.

When you can't run the ball on TCU it is hard to beat their defense
A) Have to find a way to run the ball
Or
B) You have to throw over the top to open Running lanes

It is the type of game that your weaknesses on the LOS will be apparent

Mainly because when they get the advantage they pound you again and again.

Raise our level? This is a five win TCU team. They are struggling this year just as much as we are.
 
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Raise our level? This is a five win TCU team. They are struggling this year just as much as we are.

They aren't.
Wins and losses don't measure a team as much as how they won and loss those games.

TCU is much better than their record. They are as good as VA Tech and Virgina who were 8-3 in the ACC
TCU would probably beat both those teams
 

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They aren't.
Wins and losses don't measure a team as much as how they won and loss those games.

TCU is much better than their record. They are as good as VA Tech and Virgina who were 8-3 in the ACC
TCU would probably beat both those teams

[roll]
 
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TCU barely lost to 2 Top 10 football teams.
Dominated Baylor for the entire game
According to some on here was screwed over against OU.

Trust me when I say TCU would most likely be the second best team in the ACC
 
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Good thing is a lot of their talent is on its way out.
When they had them they didn't have a QB.

Reagor
Sewo
Darius Anderson
Will end up contributing in the NFL
 
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Yet you continue to respond.
Quit being such a dumbass.
You are at the point where you are going after Doege.

If WVU wins this game it is a good sign. TCU is a solid team and the below average teams they have played they dominated.
WVU is hanging tough.
 

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They aren't.
Wins and losses don't measure a team as much as how they won and loss those games.

TCU is much better than their record. They are as good as VA Tech and Virgina who were 8-3 in the ACC
TCU would probably beat both those teams

Oh my gosh. You are struggling. Wins and losses don’t measure a team? Seriously? Do bowl selection committees know this? Because I think they believe you at least have to win a certain amount of games to be considered good enough to get an invite to their bowl.

Thank you Butch Jones and your “winner in life” mentality.

WVU lost by 3 to Baylor. WVU lost by 3 to Oklahoma State. I guess we can now claim those as wins because we played tough. Quick somebody text Coach Brown. Let him know we are going bowling after all.
 

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The TEams TCU has beaten
Ar-Pine Bluff (32)
Purdue - (21)
Kansas - (37)
Texas (I guess they are below average. 10)
Texas Tech (2)

Yeah they have beaten them all so badly. WVU is just as talented and just as good. Go home. KC
 
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Oh my gosh. You are struggling. Wins and losses don’t measure a team? Seriously? Do bowl selection committees know this? Because I think they believe you at least have to win a certain amount of games to be considered good enough to get an invite to their bowl.

Thank you Butch Jones and your “winner in life” mentality.

WVU lost by 3 to Baylor. WVU lost by 3 to Oklahoma State. I guess we can now claim those as wins because we played tough. Quick somebody text Coach Brown. Let him know we are going bowling after all.


Baylor had 300 more total yards than WVU.
That game wasn't that close.

You measure a team by how much fight they have. Adversity happens in sports and life.

For whatever reason some of you on here just give up.
Football teams aren't like that. Especially TCU.
 
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Adversity happens.

WVU has nothing to play for today but yet they have hung tough all game.

Especially with their defense. Great game plan by Neal Brown and his staff.
 
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You are a see saw with a broken handle. First you say we suck and TCU kills bad teams. Now we are good again.


WVU has a WIN! Suck on that *****.

You sure are a dumbass.
Should have just kept quiet.
To top it off you come back and run your mouth.

No one said WVU sucked. Please find where I said they are a bad team.
I did say TCU kills bad teams and have all year.
Purdue and Kansas being the main ones.


You pissed all over this thread because I said something good about TCU.
Insecurity sucks.

WVU won a huge game that they could have ended up not showing up.
They handled losing to Oklahoma State and showed up against a team meeting a win.
Proof what Neal Brown is doing works.


Seth Doege is a good QB. Anyone who says different has no idea about football.
 

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Baylor had 300 more total yards than WVU.
That game wasn't that close.

You measure a team by how much fight they have. Adversity happens in sports and life.

For whatever reason some of you on here just give up.
Football teams aren't like that. Especially TCU.

So if the 49ers have more yards than the Patriots in the Super Bowl this year, but the Patriots have more points, do they give the trophy to the 49ers?

You are a clown.
 
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So if the 49ers have more yards than the Patriots in the Super Bowl this year, but the Patriots have more points, do they give the trophy to the 49ers?

You are a clown.


That is why you have to watch the games.

Point is WVU/Baylor wasn't a close game no matter what the score says.
They were clearly the better team

For WVU to lose that game is a credit to Neal Brown and his staff.

For the most part with a young team, injuries and attrition WVU could have won a lot of games they had no reason being in.

What happens when Brown actually does have an OLine?
 

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That is why you have to watch the games.

Point is WVU/Baylor wasn't a close game no matter what the score says.
They were clearly the better team

For WVU to lose that game is a credit to Neal Brown and his staff.

For the most part with a young team, injuries and attrition WVU could have won a lot of games they had no reason being in.

What happens when Brown actually does have an OLine?

You made it clear you had already decided TCU was winning today.

The only stat that matters is the score board.
 
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YES !!!!!!

West Virginia University is playoff bound 2020.

Cause TVZ said we beat a powerhouse TCU team. Buy your season and playoff tickets now!!!

I don't know about all that.

TCU is one of the more respected programs in the Big 12.
They will tell you where you stand.

WVU is closer to the probably the top half of the P5 than bottom half even at 5-7.