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Allar could not hold a candle to DC.
Tengwall Film Study - PSU 4th Quarter Offense
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Allar could not hold a candle to DC.
Drafted means nothing re: results for PSU. And if he keeps playing like he has the first 3 years and 4 games, his draft stock will continue to plummet.
He will get drafted by the same geniuses who thought Colston Loveland was a better NFL prospect than Tyler Warren. Warren 19 catches 263 yds vs Loveland 3 catches 43 yards.
Sir, we don’t heal our broken leg faster by breaking the other leg.Bring back Jay and the Spread HD.
Even if we ran his stuff from 1994, wouldn’t do nearly as well, but a good plan violently executed today > a great plan executed tomorrow.
Lean this way, but I don’t think DC is DC under James Franklin. And I don’t think he wins those because Franklin wouldn’t have won as much as Joe with those teams.
When has his draft stock plummeted that it will continue to do so? I guess Arch and Nussmeier should quit football.
How many Penn State records will Drew have when he leaves? Hardly a bust. He's already won what...26 games.
Warren > Loveland but that's a lot about how awful Caleb Williams is
It also worked out great for Warren that he wasn't trapped in the hell that is Chicago right now.
There are tons of problems here. The WR's aren't great but they aren't terrible. The Tight Ends are missing blocks. The running backs haven't improved in 3 years. The OL isn't good or are at best, inconsistent. The schemes aren't good - the same thing all the time, the same motion, flooding the short side of the field, etc. And Allar isn't as good as he needs to be - missing reads on run/pass options, not pulling the trigger when he needs to, not taking easy wide open check downs, terrible footwork at times, panics when there is no need to, etc.
What I don't understand is how things are so bad this year which would seem to be a preparation/practice issue which has to be squarely on Franklin.
Many of the offensive problems are the scheme, though Allar and Singleton are alarmingly inconsistent and the OL is struggling with the lack of physically staying on blocks. They might go after their first block and then fail to get to the 2nd level on runs, then are getting pushed backwards too often in pass protection
All fair...I still maintain most of those issues are due to scheme. Why the hell is Drew ever running a zone read?
The only thing I kind of disagree about is the chekdowns. Our route combinations are so bad rarely is that even a viable option. He does miss some though. Probably the most accurate criticism of him.
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Tengwall does a good job.
The biggest things I saw:
- Some poor blocking
- Plenty of open WRs
- Allar panicking under pressure
The second one is kind of frightening because it could really be what cost the team a title last year, not throwing to open guys.
Seven straight years of the least consistent QB play in college football, and not one move in the portal for a known quantity. From the depths of the Grand Canyon to the Moon, the only thing can count on is you don't know what you can count on at the QB position at PSU.
I'm not sure AK is still at PSU next season. Although this year isn't doing him any favors in terms of finding a head coaching job so far, so maybe he will be back.
Allar has beaten no one…he is not even a top half Big10 QB this year. He is soft as his HFC. Got to believe NFL is way ahead of us…
Arch has played about 4 games…jury still out on him.
Allen is playing great football…best player on team. And the toughest.
AK may not be back next season and it probably won’t be his decision. Franklin has a short fuse when it comes to offense coordinators who don’t meet expectations.
The WR position continues to dog PSU. It is the biggest reason the team continues to struggle on offense. The league is full of SEC and tOSU WRs. It is an indictment of Franklin that he has not fixed that issue sufficiently for Drew to thrive.
The jury isn't out on Arch Nussmeier or Allar. They'll all be selected no later than day 2. Interesting you skipped Nussmeier.
I would disagree. The WR position is not the reason Drew turtles up in big games. They got open versus Oregon and he often didn’t see them. WR’s leave us and enjoy success elsewhere. The offense issues are multifaceted, but they start primarily with Drew.
I think it’s a problem. I don’t think it’s the biggest one. That would be the QB position, the HC, or some combo of the two.
I don’t think folks realize what kind of odds we’d have to be bucking to have:
Every WR we’ve recruited not be able to get open on any route.
Every WR we’ve gotten via the portal notbe able to get open on any route. Even after getting open in prior stops.
Occam’s Razor to me. Simplest answer is the qb isn’t good. But that was an excuse in 2010. With the portal, other than blind loyalty, no reason any team where the coach talks Elite so often should settle for such madness under center.
Kerry only took one class in 1994. If it was not one, it was two but I am positive it was only one class. Wally did something similar his 5th year.
That was Moore’s 19th college game. Most of the new contributors were portal guys.
I really could care less about either. Allar has been a complete bust. It’s over. Time to move on.
Lol you don't care about either because you don't actually understand anything you're discussing but that's fine. Live in a bubble which prevents you from comprehending the real issues.
I watched one of those PSU podcasts. No one knows or understands what the problem is on offense. But it is a combination of AK, Drew, O-Line and WRs. Throw in Singleton. Spread the blame evenly.
The issue is it probably won't get fixed this year at least significantly fixed to where we legitimately can make a run at the title. There are fundamental core problems with the offense.
The issue is it probably won't get fixed this year at least significantly fixed to where we legitimately can make a run at the title. There are fundamental core problems with the offense.
3 cupcakes and a game in, and they’re just noticing this? After returning starters or replacing them with upgrades at 10 positions?
That’s all on the HC. All of it.
Skippy - I forgot more about and am far closer to PSU football than you are or ever will be.
Clearly all roads lead back to Franklin. Franklin was able to do what he wanted and talk his way around the issues that he created when Sandy Barbour was here. Kraft cannot take this piss poor product for much longer. Hoping at the end of this underperforming year they can convince Franklin to leave. The answer is not another OC. Franklin will have $40 million on his contract starting sometime in '26. Maybe we can push him to another job. I think Va Tech could be a good landing spot.
Looking at things realistically, we’re coming off a semifinal run last season, and currently have the 6th ranked team in the country at the moment. Is “piss poor product” the best word choice when looking at where things stand in the grand scheme?
Seven first downs through 3 quarters with all the buildup and, realistically, 6 months to prepare?
Piss poor is strong. Poor is about right. It’s a poor product.
Again, piss poor product. You cannot traipse that horse crap offense out for 3 quarters in your biggest home game in decades and do that. I don't care about whether they came back. We lost, Franklin lost. Results have to matter at some point.