Terry Pettit lays the smack down on coach Riley haters *** MUST READ ***

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St. Anger

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Actually it is dead on. Pettit is setting the record straight to the people questioning Riley.
No he's not. He's setting the record straight on what Pelini did to the program and that will take time to recover from, regardless of who's in charge. Hence, the VW comparison.

Many posters in the thread see that.
 
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I agree with his point on Pelini. However, what I struggle with is that the same administration that allowed Pelini to continue that behavior for years is still in place. The head of Volkswagen was fired and I assume the middle execs/management that allowed it has or will be fired too.

Why does NU administration get a pass on hiring Pelini and allowing him to create an environment like that? Are they not held accountable as well? If you are going "cut out a cancer" don't you want to cut out all of it to prevent it from coming back?

It was Osborne's hire. There's not many with as much political clout @ NU than Coach Osborne. So, with Bo-ner winning that "magical" 9-wins a year it was hard to get the votes to support paying off his contract. So, it's not so easy as the AD should have cut Pelini out long ago.

To the OP, thanks for sharing that. We have to give Coach Riley time to fix the culture at NU. Winning will come. It's just not more important than doing it the Nebraska way. If you can't figure that out then you just have an axe to grind.

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I agree with you. However, I would venture a guess that the football community is waaaaaayyy more vocal to Harvey (for better or worse) than the academia community. I would also guess that football was top of mind during the move to the B10.

It certainly plays a big role, but as a graduate from Nebraska, I'm far more interested in the academic quality of the institution as a whole. That's why it exists. When I look back at Harvey's tenure the AD will be a minor component in my mind.
 

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No he's not. He's setting the record straight on what Pelini did to the program and that will take time to recover from, regardless of who's in charge. Hence, the VW comparison.

Many posters in the thread see that.

The second paragraph is in response to the players and season.
 

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And with yet another voice being heard - this one willing to on-the-record criticize Pelini - I get the sense that the current administration is calling in old favors.

Or perhaps old coaches (e.g., Charlie, Milt) are recognizing a mature staff that wants advice, feedback, and involvement from successful professionals and believe that should be celebrated.
 
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No he's not. He's setting the record straight on what Pelini did to the program and that will take time to recover from, regardless of who's in charge. Hence, the VW comparison.

Many posters in the thread see that.

I'm pretty sure Mr. Pettit himself entitled this "Volkswagen and Nebraska Football". The OP is trying to mislead and spin this article.
 

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I'm pretty sure Mr. Pettit himself entitled this "Volkswagen and Nebraska Football". The OP is trying to mislead and spin this article.

Quality and excellence in yourself and it carries over to your product. That's what he's getting at. And Pelini did neither and it contaminated the the heart of the program... the people. Do you get it yet???
 

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Quality and excellence in yourself and it carries over to your product. That's what he's getting at. And Pelini did neither and it contaminated the the heart of the program... the people. Do you get it yet???

Oh, I do understand. Then why not simply state Pettit's title of the article in the OP subject. Why spin it?
 
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Son, you don't know what trolling is.

According to Google, trolling is making a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

If the statement "lays the smack down on Riley haters" in the thread title can be qualified as provocative, then this thread meets the definition of trolling.
 

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What a difference a year makes.

A year ago, we had people defending a brash coach that won an above average amount of games as a head coach..... now, we have people defending a nice coach that has not won at an above average clip.

You know what I would like? A coach that doesn't need defending.
 

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According to Google, trolling is making a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

If the statement "lays the smack down on Riley haters" in the thread title can be qualified as provocative, then this thread meets the definition of trolling.
And boom goes the dynamite.
 
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No he's not. He's setting the record straight on what Pelini did to the program and that will take time to recover from, regardless of who's in charge. Hence, the VW comparison.

Many posters in the thread see that.


Reading comprehension is weak these days.

Petit spends a fair bit of time relaying his personal experience with the NU fan base and almost being forced out.

The moral of that particular story doesn't have to do with firing Pelini and eliminating what everyone knew must be eliminated. It has to do with allowing time for good things to happen, lest we act too quickly and sabotage ourselves.

A situation that is a direct yes vote for keeping Riley.
 

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I'm glad Bo is gone and Riley is trying to change the culture. That doesn't mean he should be given 5 years to do it. He must show significant progress next year. This is a business, and he's getting paid a lot of money to deliver a winning program. There are plenty of coaches out there who are decent human beings and still capable of winning a lot of games.
 

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We sabotaged ourselves when we fired 9 win coach.. People want to give Riley more time because they know they look like fools slobbering all over him in the preseason.
 

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Reading comprehension is weak these days.

Petit spends a fair bit of time relaying his personal experience with the NU fan base and almost being forced out.

The moral of that particular story doesn't have to do with firing Pelini and eliminating what everyone knew must be eliminated. It has to do with allowing time for good things to happen, lest we act too quickly and sabotage ourselves.

A situation that is a direct yes vote for keeping Riley.
So comparing his situation, i.e., giving a coach some time is "Lays the smack down on coach Riley haters."

Um, ok.
 
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We sabotaged ourselves when we fired 9 win coach.. People want to give Riley more time because they know they look like fools slobbering all over him in the preseason.

That guy who got zero HC or DC offers at the D1 level after he got fired? Wait, wait. Where did he land again?

/End Discussion
 
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I'm glad Bo is gone and Riley is trying to change the culture. That doesn't mean he should be given 5 years to do it. He must show significant progress next year. This is a business, and he's getting paid a lot of money to deliver a winning program. There are plenty of coaches out there who are decent human beings and still capable of winning a lot of games.

I don't believe anyone that matters has laid down a time frame.

People are speculating that Riley won't be here come December, or worrying that will be here forever. There are an infinite number of numbers between 4 weeks from now and forever. Lots of choices, that most people aren't considering.
 
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@BigRedPimp, if that happens, the culture built to get to the similar results will be well worth the money, time and effort, no matter how painful to some.

According to Google, trolling is making a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

If the statement "lays the smack down on Riley haters" in the thread title can be qualified as provocative, then this thread meets the definition of trolling.

Coach Pettit told all you Peelini groupies to STFU and sit down, which is why the title is what it is - accurate and spot on. You wouldn't be able to handle trolling, jawbreaking proved that over the last 3 years.
 

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So comparing his situation, i.e., giving a coach some time is "Lays the smack down on coach Riley haters."

Um, ok.


I quoted this:

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No he's not. He's setting the record straight on what Pelini did to the program and that will take time to recover from, regardless of who's in charge. Hence, the VW comparison.

Many posters in the thread see that."

You clearly left out half of Petits message. If you have problems with the thread title, you'll have to fight with Tim about that.
 

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We sabotaged ourselves when we fired 9 win coach.. People want to give Riley more time because they know they look like fools slobbering all over him in the preseason.

Bo was done with Nebraska...and we were done with him. I don't get why that is so difficult to understand. If Riley was the right hire is a total different discussion.
 

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@BigRedPimp, if that happens, the culture built to get to the similar results will be well worth the money, time and effort, no matter how painful to some.



Coach Pettit told all you Peelini groupies to STFU and sit down, which is why the title is what it is - accurate and spot on. You wouldn't be able to handle trolling, jawbreaking proved that over the last 3 years.
You keep responding about Pelini. Obviously you got the thread title wrong.
 
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You keep responding about Pelini. Obviously you got the thread title wrong.

No doubt. And just because some of us are not satisfied with Mike to date, doesn't mean we wanted to retain Bo.
Agendas are all over the OP's thread title.
 
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I didn't post one single Peelini comment until others did.

9 wins 9 wins 9 wins!!!

Thread title remains dead on.
No, you started mentioning Pelini when others brought up what's actually written in the post by Petitt. Because that's what it's actually about. I never brought up Pelini.
 

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I think everyone is in agreement that Bo needed to be fired. So this it isn't a big shocker what Pettit wrote about Bo. He admitted that he doesn't know whether or not Mike Riley has the will, talent and luck to rebuild the culture. I say there is nothing in Riley's record at either Corvallis or Lincoln to show that he is anything other than a mediocre coach. I question the loyalty shown by certain writers (Are they paid by the University?) on this board to a coach they knew nothing about less than a year ago and I challenge one these pro-Riley members to give me one fact that shows Riley is a highly successful coach. Endorsements are just one person's opinion. I want one hard, cold, concrete fact. Don't bother looking at his record. It isn't there.
 
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