THANKS RON POLK FOR DESTROYING OUR BASEBALL PROGRAM

ExtremeDog

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Who the hell are these guys on our roster, and who in their right mind thought they were SEC players.

Since Raffo was the one who recruited them, we did the right thing by not hiring him.
 

ExtremeDog

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Who the hell are these guys on our roster, and who in their right mind thought they were SEC players.

Since Raffo was the one who recruited them, we did the right thing by not hiring him.
 

weblow

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consistently win with the players we have right now. There is also not a coach on this planet that could prevent getting swept by the #3 team in the nation without pitchers.

Cohen has already improved this team from where Polk had it or would have it at this point. He needs a couple of years to get his kids in and get these kids used to playing his type of ball. Wait until next season to ***** about Cohen. I, as well as most fans, expect to see significant improvement next year.
 

basedog

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and some guy who follows or has a message board for Bama stated that our pitching last year was the worst in SEC history! Said he had never seen such a mess. RP left Cohen pretty much nothing but I do believe Cohen will get the most out of this so called SEC team and he has shown some improvemnet even if it looks like we have a HS team on the field.
RP had everything going for him at Msu, but man ole man between last year and what he left Cohen is the worse since I've watched Msu baseball and thats from the spring of 70. I can't see us in the SEC tourney. I lost a lot of respect on his handling of the AD and his sorry lazy recruiting!
 

Xenomorph

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...that, or you're brain dead.

The talent gap between us and UGA this weekend was shocking. We're throwing 86 mph. They're bumping 93. We've got guys in the starting lineup hitting below the Mendoza Line. They're sending gorillas to the plate.

The fact that all 3 games were competitive tells me a lot about Cohen.
 

hatfieldms

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RonnyAtmosphere said:
...& Cohen needs to start earning his paycheck & quit getting swept.
This is just idiotic. He actually needs players to win games. And quit getting swept? You act like it has been happening all year
 

patdog

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NONE. For the record, in his 1st season at Kentucky, Cohen went 7-23 with the alleged college baseball players Madison left him with. In his 3rd season he won an SEC championship (something that hasn't been done at MSU in 20 years). Madison arguably left Cohen with better players than Polk did.
 

jackstefano

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Didn't Polk have MSU in the equivalent of a BCS game 2 years ago?

If the answer is yes, then the next question is what the $##@ happened in the interim? And before you get your **** out of your schnizzle, I'm asking that with my tongue clearly disected from my cheek -- what happened between Omaha and not making the SEC tourney? Were you senior-heavy the year you made the CWS? I have no idea (as you might suspect).
 

State82

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just by having to deal with this charlie foxtrot left him by the previous regime.
 
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Easley, Rea, Moreland, LaNinfa, McCaskill, Brandon Turner (stayed hurt last year), Josh Johnson (not that good), and Aaron Weatherford off that team. Plus John Lalor and Justin Pigott who were instrumental in that run (Lalor had like a 20 something inning scoreless streak going and Pigott pitched a gem at FSU).

That team was decent, but it was that we got hot over a 5 game period more than anything. We hit well, but pitching sucked a lot of the year. Pitching picked up at the end of the year (or more specifically, post season play save the CWS) and we made a nice run. I enjoyed the hell out of it, but that team just played way above their heads for 2 weeks.
 

8dog

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in Rea, Easley, Turner (injured pretty much all last year)and Moreland. And Weatherford was hurt most of last year.

Even the average pitching that carried us to Omaha took a blow. Crosswhite was hurt and Josh Johnson graduated. That's 2 weekend starters off a bad weekend staff.

Mix in the fact that Laninfa was solid throughout his senior year so we lost him after Omaha.

That's a lot of player losses and we had nothing behind it, particularly on the mound.
 

rebfan04

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with no remarks added:

What if the team gets swept a bunch next year? Is it still Polk's fault, or should Cohen also garner some blame at that point?
 

Todd4State

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but I like loaded questions, so I'm game.

First of all- I don't think we're going to be swept a lot- this year or next year.

Second of all- If we don't improve Cohen should get some of the blame. I don't know what's going to happen next year, but I would be surprised if we don't see some people purged next year- some pitchers in particular- based onb what we've recruited because the numbers aren't adding up without kicking some people off of the team. I think we're going to have better arms next year, but they're going to be Fr, and I think they're going to pitch a lot- in particular Stratton, Watson, Bole, and Bracewell.
 

Todd4State

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RonnyAtmosphere said:
...& Cohen needs to start earning his paycheck & quit getting swept.

What do you think this team would be doing with Polk and/or Raffo at the helm?

I'll tell you- I think we would have about seven wins right now, and I think we would have gotten our barndoors blown off this weekend. We may suck as a team, but at least Cohen has us competitive and we're not embarassing ourselves out there.

I don't think Skip Bertman, Rod Dedeaux, or Augie Garrido could get these guys to a SR.
 

Bulldog from Birth

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Our baseball program has no excuses not to be a perennial Top 25 type team in the NCAA tournament every season. But he gets a pass this year. You'd have to see a complete lackadaisical effort for me to be concerned, and I don't see that at all. But I expect to qualify for regional play next year. And I expect to be in the running to host a regional in Year 3. And I expect to be in the position to host a regional at least 2 out of every 3 years starting in Year 4 and in the NCAA Tournament every year with the occasional pass for an enormous rebuilding year every once in a blue moon.

BFB
 

dawgphd

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facing a team with superior talent. And that pisses me off immensely. However, instead of watching a team that looks like a patient on life support with no hope for recovery, I think I see patient that is still sick but I now know that patient is going top get well sooner rather than later.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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rebfan04 said:
with no remarks added:

What if the team gets swept a bunch next year? Is it still Polk's fault, or should Cohen also garner some blame at that point?
If the State baseball team still sucks next year, this board will still be blaming Polk.

Even though Polk is long gone & Cohen is now the coach drawing the nice salary, it will be years before this fanbase holds Cohen responsible for anything.

Of course, all of this blaming Polk ******** was non-existent last weekend when MSU took 2 out of 3 from South Carolina. When something good happens, it's due to Cohen's genius. But when you get swept in a conference weekend series, it's time to burn Polk in effigy.

Fortunate for Cohen, he has the dumbest fanbase in the nation wrapped around his finger.
 

hatfieldms

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RonnyAtmosphere said:
rebfan04 said:
with no remarks added:

What if the team gets swept a bunch next year? Is it still Polk's fault, or should Cohen also garner some blame at that point?
If the State baseball team still sucks next year, this board will still be blaming Polk.

Even though Polk is long gone & Cohen is now the coach drawing the nice salary, it will be years before this fanbase holds Cohen responsible for anything.

Of course, all of this blaming Polk ******** was non-existent last weekend when MSU took 2 out of 3 from South Carolina. When something good happens, it's due to Cohen's genius. But when you get swept in a conference weekend series, it's time to burn Polk in effigy.

Fortunate for Cohen, he has the dumbest fanbase in the nation wrapped around his finger.
Is that you Ron? KB21? Who is this?
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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...& so will I.

You really shouldn't bring football into this, because when you loss a game in football, nobody has the warm & fuzzes for the "mess the last guy left the program in." Everybody gets pissed at the guy wearing the earphones on the sidelines & drawing the fat paycheck. And rightly so.

Put it this way: After MSU losses their first football game this fall, I want you to delete all the posts that gets on Mullen's *** for the loss. At least that will be consistent with your "Croom left Mullen a mess" theme.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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.. I'll never do something like creating a giant gif that gives Kodi Augutus all the credit for Stansbury's SEC tournament run. It takes a juvenile ******** like coach34 to do that, and doing something like that is not my bag.

I'm not making a complicated case here: I'm just saying the current coach is responsible for the current ups & downs of the team. That's not a hard concept to grasp.

You can't praise Cohen when he wins 2 out of 3 from South Carolina then turn around & blame Ron Polk when State gets swept by Georgia. Not only does that not make any sense, it is also not fair to either Cohen or Polk.
 

Croomp

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This is a big season for Cohen but you cannot skulldrag him like this for beign swept by a top 5 ball club. Regardless if rankings are bs or not I guarantee Cohen would be doing twice as good at Georgia(and be ranked top 10) right now then at State if he inherited the players that Georgia has right now. The players we got are about as bad as you could inherit in your first season at a SEC school. Cohen deserves a year to get the show restocked and ready before the blame is all on his shoulders.</p>
 

muddawgs33

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Fortunate for Cohen, he has the dumbest fanbase in the nation wrapped around his finger.
I think Cohen has made some coaching mistakes this year and I'm sure he would tell you the same. As far as talent goes, well that's on Polk. Polk led us to a season where we were 11 games below .500 and a 9-21 SEC record, lost to Middle Tenn. State 20-5, lose 2 of 3 to UNF, Swept by Baylor, Usc, Vandy, Usm, and Lsu. That's lack of talent. So excuse me if Polk doesn't shoulder a lot of the blame with this year's failures. It's pretty damn clear that we didn't have much talent last year and we don't have much this year. THANKS RON!!!!
 

rebfan04

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RonnyAtmosphere said:
rebfan04 said:
with no remarks added:

What if the team gets swept a bunch next year? Is it still Polk's fault, or should Cohen also garner some blame at that point?
If the State baseball team still sucks next year, this board will still be blaming Polk.

Even though Polk is long gone & Cohen is now the coach drawing the nice salary, it will be years before this fanbase holds Cohen responsible for anything.

Of course, all of this blaming Polk ******** was non-existent last weekend when MSU took 2 out of 3 from South Carolina. When something good happens, it's due to Cohen's genius. But when you get swept in a conference weekend series, it's time to burn Polk in effigy.

Fortunate for Cohen, he has the dumbest fanbase in the nation wrapped around his finger.

I remember that happening with Croom for at least two years, maybe more.

I was hoping that Cohen would be held to a higher standard because MState baseball is much more established than MState football.

We'll see.

For what its worth, I think Cohen should be responsible for losing to terrible teams (such as UT...no way you're as bad as them...maybe even Vandy).

Needless to say, you've played two of the better teams in the SEC so far. Cohen should be judged on the overall SEC record.
 

patdog

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jackstefano said:
Didn't Polk have MSU in the equivalent of a BCS game 2 years ago?

If the answer is yes, then the next question is what the $##@ happened in the interim? And before you get your **** out of your schnizzle, I'm asking that with my tongue clearly disected from my cheek -- what happened between Omaha and not making the SEC tourney? Were you senior-heavy the year you made the CWS? I have no idea (as you might suspect).
We finished 4th in the SEC two years ago (15-13 SEC record) and made a good run in the NCAA tournament. That would equate to a Cotton Bowl appearance, the same as David Cutcliffe had the year before he was fired at Mississippi. A better analogy to what Polk did in 2007 would be a #7 seed in the NCAA basketball tournament making it to the Elite 8.

And, as someone else has pointed out, we lost a LOT of players off that CWS team.
 

Xenomorph

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You can't praise Cohen when he wins 2 out of 3 from South Carolina then turn around & blame Ron Polk when State gets swept by Georgia.

On the contrary... If you believe Ron Polk left us with substandard pitching and weak hitting, that's EXACTLY what you should do.