That SEC Shorts taping at the Grant Presidential Library…

DesotoCountyDawg

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That was the only "state's right" the war was about. Calling it "State's rights" is just part of a massive whitewashing campaign started by the Daughters of the Confederacy.
Yeah I know, that’s why I said that.
 

Dawgbite

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I’ve often wondered how long slavery would have survived if allowed to die a natural death. How different would race relations have been in the 20th century without the civil war being treated like some kind of martyr.
 
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FormerBully

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I disagree about it being un-winnable from the start. It was very winnable for the south until July of 1863. The simultaneous defeat at Gettysburg and Vicksburg was the tip of the bell curve for the south in the war.

Lee’s aggressiveness and feeling of invincibility were assets in Virginia but liabilities in Pennsylvania. If Lee had listened to Jeb Stuart and have been happy with pinning the Union army on those hills in Gettysburg while opening the path directly to Washington…. Who knows. Lee could have turned toward Washington and the chase would have been on. And then if he inevitably clashed on ground more favorable to him close to Washington… again…. Who knows.

The war was not un-winnable if two or three changes could have been made and the outcome have been totally different.
One of Lee's and the south's biggest mistake was their desire for sweeping historic battle victories. If you look at the percentage of men lost Lee does not rank favorably. They were unable to adapt to changing warfare and that is why I think Grant is the better general.
 
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HailStout

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The union Could have ended the war earlier if Grant had been in charge from the start. It is well documented how frustrated Lincoln was with his initial generals. I believe he went through three top generals before finally landing on Grant. The main issue was the fact that they weren’t willing to do what was necessary to end the war because they were afraid of the cost of human life. Because of this more lives were lost.
 

Walkthedawg

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The union Could have ended the war earlier if Grant had been in charge from the start. It is well documented how frustrated Lincoln was with his initial generals. I believe he went through three top generals before finally landing on Grant. The main issue was the fact that they weren’t willing to do what was necessary to end the war because they were afraid of the cost of human life. Because of this more lives were lost.
If the south and the north had swapped generals before the first Bull Run, the war would probably been over in 6 months. The Union had a bunch of bureaucrats masquerading as war command until Grant. The south had warfighters from the start.
 
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LocalBeachBum

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Somebody acting surprised that William Faulkner’s home is in Oxford is the least believable thing in this video. Outside of their weird antebellum worship and lasting association with Jim Crow laws, it’s their most defining characteristic

faulkner was too broke to move out of Oxford. So he drank himself to death to escape it.
 

LocalBeachBum

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Lincoln invaded the south to preserve the tariff revenues from the southern ports. The south was going to undercut the north tariffs by 10%.

/stuff they don’t teach in history anymore
 
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It would be nice for Keenum to use his political influence to lobby for a "grant" to build proper presidential library that is also a mini civil war museum. Build it somewhere that folks could easily get to it and tour it, preferably near the Hunter Henry Abomination, I mean Center. Something to draw people in and another thing to do with kids/visitors on game day. We need attractions.

You're pretty close. In the lot on the corner of Russell and Hwy 12.
 

LocalBeachBum

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True, but certainly immoral and reprehensible. It's one of those deals, the further we move away from it, the more we understand how wrong it was and still is.

lots of things are immoral and reprehensible when you look through Overton windows. I liken slavery to abortion. Look at how many people will fight you for the right to declare a baby in the womb a non human, like the slaves were declared non human.
 

Mr. Cook

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I’ve often wondered how long slavery would have survived if allowed to die a natural death. How different would race relations have been in the 20th century without the civil war being treated like some kind of martyr.
Interesting point. Technology (mechanization) was inevitable. And like most forms of human labor in history, efficiencies and machines make their impact advancing many market segments. (Compare precision agriculture today with farming practices just 3 decades ago)

Fast forward to today: Makes the future look real interesting with the advent of AI and deem machine learning.
 
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