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Bulldog Bruce

Bulldog Bruce

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The tournament was the first time I got to watch the new bats in full game mode. The ball Renfroe hit to left in the championship game looked like it was hit square and it didn't even move the outfielder back. Wes Rea drove one to right and the right fielder might have moved in. Ground balls looked like they were hit hard and the infielder had to move in on them. Hard hit line drives seem to barely get over the infielders heads.

I believe the ball would jump off wood better than those bats. I also think these players need to go back to the old idea of leverage. The hot bats allowed players to get away with using shorter bats. They now need the extra length to generate more speed on the ball at contact. For example Wes Rea should use a 35 or 36 inch bat. And I really believe I would consider using wood bats.
 
Bulldog Bruce

Bulldog Bruce

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The tournament was the first time I got to watch the new bats in full game mode. The ball Renfroe hit to left in the championship game looked like it was hit square and it didn't even move the outfielder back. Wes Rea drove one to right and the right fielder might have moved in. Ground balls looked like they were hit hard and the infielder had to move in on them. Hard hit line drives seem to barely get over the infielders heads.

I believe the ball would jump off wood better than those bats. I also think these players need to go back to the old idea of leverage. The hot bats allowed players to get away with using shorter bats. They now need the extra length to generate more speed on the ball at contact. For example Wes Rea should use a 35 or 36 inch bat. And I really believe I would consider using wood bats.
 
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DirtyLopez

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juice them up a little bit from where they are now. They should just go back to the black magic bats and be done with it. That is assuming they don't go to wood in the near future.
 
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RocketDawg

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but at least they sound like a wood bat instead of the "clink".<div>
</div><div>I just wish they'd go back to all wood. Some of these new bats break too, and a wood bat has to be a lot cheaper than the ones we use now.</div>
 
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engie

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This guy is one of our all-time homerun leaders. He hit 29 bombs in 1981 before they juiced the bats up in the first place in the same Dudy Noble that these guys can't hit bombs in today.

His opinion on this topic should definitely hold alot of weight.

Love the thoughts on Rea and getting him a longer bat. Do they even manufacture the aluminum in those lengths? They used to only mass-produce to 34" about 10 years ago..
 
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drt7891

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The problem would eventually be a decent supply of wood. Right now, the major leagues get the best wood and they use tons of it. I can't imagine the number of bats a single player would use throughout the course of the season and manufacturers that sponsor these players give them their best products. After that, the pecking order is obviously the minor leagues and most teams have at least 2 minor league teams.<div>
</div><div>Then would come college... much bigger than even the minor leagues and MLB put together... and it wouldn't be just the top schools, it would be every NCAA school in every division (there are 280 Division 1 schools alone...). That would put a huge dent in, not only the supply of wood, but also the quality of manufacturing. I'm sure the average college player would not go through near as many bats as a Major league player over the course of a season, but MLB wouldn't even touch the NCAA in the number of bats needed throughout the course of a season. </div><div>
</div><div>I imagine metal bats are here to stay. </div>
 
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State82

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Between the bat companies and MLB, this should come to fruition. It needs to get done.
 
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engie

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They are still allowed to be at -3. Wood bats are generally -2 but high performance ones(read expesive) can be -3...

I find it very, very hard to believe that these bats are in any way better than wood. Those balls Renfroe has been hitting to the edge of the warning track for the past 9 games have been SMOKED for the most part.

Florida St will not hold these balls, that much people can be sure of...
 
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CEO2044

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if these "new bats" aren't breaking more. I've seen 2 break in the past week.<div>
</div><div>Apparently it's more common than I've seen, but I know I've rarely seen that in the college game, and all of a sudden last week I saw two.</div><div>
</div><div>That alone would tell you that you may as well move to wood and save on cost.</div>
 
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State82

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I have seen him hit some that are probably still bounding around somewhere to this day. Mammoth shots.
 
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00Dawg

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I recall one of my brothers using a 36" aluminum batin high school about a decade ago. Hearing that Wes Rea uses a 34" bat gives me a lot of pause...I was occasionally using that length in junior high.
 
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engie

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as you think.

I played in a pretty prestigious summer league during college, and I made it through the entire season with a single wood bat, taking bp and everything. Granted this was somewhat due to luck, and largely due to the fact that I rarely ever got jammed. The worst guys on our team only broke 2-3...

3-4 wood bats/player/season should be sufficient. Just take BP with(heavier) aluminum. I could see there being a "introduction time", in which they ramp up supply and production over a few years...

One thing for certain...there is not a greater supply of aluminum that northern white ash and maple out there...
 
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War Machine Dawg

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I've seen our guys absolutely murder the ball on several occasions, and it just died in the outfield. Renfroe's blast at Hoover would've been out of the Dude, but with the larger dimensions of Regions, it wasn't close. It literally took a miracle for anyone to get one out this week. Douchenozzles like MSDawg34 are bitching about how much and how early we bunt, but virtually every coach in the league is bunting as early as the 1st now due to the bats. They suck and there's no way around it. There's no way Rea, Renfroe, and Porter should only have 15 homers between them. I'd say each of them should have 10 minimum if the bats were worth a damn.

There's got to be a happy medium between the gorilla ball bats that let anyone hit 15 HRs and these bats. If they can't find it, then just go back to the gorilla ball bats. I love pitching & defense, but the college game needs to have runs scored.
 
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CEO2044

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engie said:
as you think.

I played in a pretty prestigious summer league during college, and I made it through the entire season with a single wood bat, taking bp and everything. Granted this was somewhat due to luck, and largely due to the fact that I rarely ever got jammed. The worst guys on our team only broke 2-3...

3-4 wood bats/player/season should be sufficient. Just take BP with(heavier) aluminum. I could see there being a "introduction time", in which they ramp up supply and production over a few years...

One thing for certain...there is not a greater supply of aluminum that northern white ash and maple out there...
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I might disagree with you on the wood bat thing though. I worked for a minor league team when I was younger getting the bats.... we broke a lot. UPS also went on strike one of those years and we couldn't get them for a month or so- it was pretty tough to make do. Maybe that's why I feel like it was happening a lot.<div>
</div><div>This was also in the minors, where you had veteran pitchers that would jam you to get the broken bat.
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</div><div>I feel like it was 1 every 2-3 games or so. I had that job for a few seasons.</div><div>
</div><div>Still, I'm arguing in favor of going to wood.

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goodknight

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Primary reason for the change was the safety of pitchers and those who play the corners. Bat technology has surpassed the playing field dimensions making it a danger to those playing close. It takes an 80- mph pitch roughly 0.52 seconds to reach home plate and a 90 mph pitch roughly 0.46 seconds. Average speed of the ball coming off a collegians bat varies between 84-95 mph. Using similar times of the ball to return to the batter means a pitcher has less than 0.6 second reaction time to get out of the way or catch the ball. In other words bu the time you say 1 Miss the ball is there before you say issippi!
 
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Optimus Prime 4

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Then plant more trees. There is enough wood. They just need to harvest more. Sell the frozen concentrated orange juice futures and get on some Loiusville Slugger shares stat.
 
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patdog

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you're right they would be a lot better than what we have now. Surely they could come up with some metal bat standards that would be closer to what a true wood bat would be. These bats are going to kill college baseball if they stick with them. </p>
 
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gravedigger

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seem to remember it. could be wrong.

I seem to remember Mike Kelley using some silver bat with no lettering too.
 
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DAWG61

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we can find plenty of supplies for the bats. College ball is basically single A pro-ball already. I can't believe the wood bats aren't used right now. I know if I was about to spend millions on a 1st round pick I would like to know how he hits with a wooden bat.
 
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RocketDawg

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And metal/composite bats are $500? Ridiculous. More inflation than I thought since I was a kid ....<div>
</div><div>Back then, major league baseballs were $5; wonder how much they are now.</div>
 
Bulldog Bruce

Bulldog Bruce

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We still used both Easton and Worth at the time and I had some 35" Worth bats also. I liked the Easton more.
 
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