The Debate
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33% believe Biden WON the debate..bahahahahaha...Trump destroyed him
Think how bad Biden would’ve looked if Nikki Haley was debating him.
The only way Trump loses the election is if he Trumps over the next few months. I still think in 2027, there’s a significant chance that neither Trump or Biden is our president.
The only way Trump loses the election is if he Trumps over the next few months. I still think in 2027, there’s a significant chance that neither Trump or Biden is our president.
They were polling the dpic's & nytiger's of the world. Only CNN could dig up people who thought Biden won that.
There is 0 chance Biden is the President in 2027
You see something like last night, and people talk about the 2024 election and this and that.
I am extremely worried about our country because it is painfully obvious that Biden is not and has not been leading our country, and it has been for a while, just not sure how long. Though I expect it has been this way since Day 1 to some extent. At least back to the days of the Easter bunny guiding him around.
The other world leaders have kept their mouths shut, and helped usher him around on the stage.
And screw the mainstream media for continuing the charade. I get a certain extent of trying to protect the strength of the office of the President, but all the Dem leaders and media, and George Clooney who prop this guy up are the problem. And Jilly is a horrible person for even allowing this.
There were signs of this before the 2020 election. So many people were wondering how long until Kamala was President way back then.
It is now obvious, and should be to everyone, even the View hosts. that Biden is not running the country, and the question should be Who is running the country.
I understand if Dems just don't want Trump. And will vote for the homeless guy on the street over him. But the Dems and Reps owe the citizens of this country better candidates.
Biden appeared to be genuinely surprised at some of the things Trump said last night that were true. Like the debunked Charlottsville quotes. And the Losers and such about our troops. Biden has either been told and forgotten, or his circle has purposely kept him out of the loop.
Heck even the CNN moderators, had looks of sympathy a few times for Biden and how he looked.
There are obvious power reasons the Dems have strategized this, I firmly believe the early debate was to give them time to enact an already devised plan to put Gavin or someone else up as the nominee. And the Dems should be upset that they had a choice stolen from them in the primary process, and are instead going to be told who their nominee is.
I am not really sure what policies the average American disagrees with Trump about. Having Abortion at the state level? Support for Israel? Strong borders? Growing economy? What policies do the Dems actually not like from Trump? and how has Biden helped those policies they don't like from Trump?
I am extremely worried about our country because it is painfully obvious that Biden is not and has not been leading our country, and it has been for a while, just not sure how long. Though I expect it has been this way since Day 1 to some extent. At least back to the days of the Easter bunny guiding him around.
The other world leaders have kept their mouths shut, and helped usher him around on the stage.
And screw the mainstream media for continuing the charade. I get a certain extent of trying to protect the strength of the office of the President, but all the Dem leaders and media, and George Clooney who prop this guy up are the problem. And Jilly is a horrible person for even allowing this.
There were signs of this before the 2020 election. So many people were wondering how long until Kamala was President way back then.
It is now obvious, and should be to everyone, even the View hosts. that Biden is not running the country, and the question should be Who is running the country.
I understand if Dems just don't want Trump. And will vote for the homeless guy on the street over him. But the Dems and Reps owe the citizens of this country better candidates.
Biden appeared to be genuinely surprised at some of the things Trump said last night that were true. Like the debunked Charlottsville quotes. And the Losers and such about our troops. Biden has either been told and forgotten, or his circle has purposely kept him out of the loop.
Heck even the CNN moderators, had looks of sympathy a few times for Biden and how he looked.
There are obvious power reasons the Dems have strategized this, I firmly believe the early debate was to give them time to enact an already devised plan to put Gavin or someone else up as the nominee. And the Dems should be upset that they had a choice stolen from them in the primary process, and are instead going to be told who their nominee is.
I am not really sure what policies the average American disagrees with Trump about. Having Abortion at the state level? Support for Israel? Strong borders? Growing economy? What policies do the Dems actually not like from Trump? and how has Biden helped those policies they don't like from Trump?
Great questions related to how we got here and whos running the show. Its called the deep state and they are globalist beholden to this world group over and above the US constitution and its citizens. I am talking dems and repubs as part of that group. Trump is not part of the group and thats why hes been attacked in a way never seen over the last 8 years. That should be a huge clue to the people on who they need to support unless they want a global socialist state that is. Here is whos running the show more than likely.
A lot of lies told last night…….on BOTH sides! It’s truly a shame that this is the best that America has to offer!
But the biggest lie that has been told is from all the people surrounding Joe that he is a well man. It’s very sad that they are allowing him to embarrass himself, and our country, by continuing with the charade! If ever there was Elder Abuse, this is it. Shame on them. GO TIGERS!
just curious, what lies did Trump tell last night?
I get that he exaggerates some things - best this or that ever, stuff. But what actual lies did he tell. I am curious, because I don't spend much time following a lot of the talking points. But most of what he said, is at least supported by some portion of truth to my knowledge.
The previous VA governor did try and allow abortion beyond birth, which is murder imo.
That was maybe the one biggest I heard people challenging.
Who are those 33%? The real people running our government who don't want to lose their power?? They need to question their ability to make honest assessments. You can vote for Biden, but he lost that debate.
to be honest, I don't think Biden actually purposely lied about this one. I just don't think he knew and his circle lied to him about many issues. He looked so surprised at some of the things Trump said, that we know are true. It is like Biden's info was from 3 years ago.
I am not sure what else the Republican party could do to provide a better candidate. There were some pretty good options in the primaries. I really like DeSantis. I think he would be one of the best presidents we have had since Reagan, but Trump got more votes. What else can the party do besides just not letting Trump run at all?
I will vote for Trump because he better than the alternative, but I have never voted for him in a republican primary. Clearly many do though.
There should be zero doubt at this point what liars the media and the Democratic Party are at this point. Last night was not shocking at all to anyone that's been paying any attention. I'm not sure what people thought the benefit to lying in such ways with the cheap fakes and all the ridiculous comments about staffers having trouble keeping up with Biden was?
Our institutions are corrupt and failing. They do not live in reality and nothing quite illustrates that better than what we saw last night. Demand better from them. Trump is a damn liar and exaggerator. And he looked benign compared to the unbelievable deception, incompetence and general dishonesty of Biden, his administration and perhaps even more so, the media!
Our institutions are corrupt and failing. They do not live in reality and nothing quite illustrates that better than what we saw last night. Demand better from them. Trump is a damn liar and exaggerator. And he looked benign compared to the unbelievable deception, incompetence and general dishonesty of Biden, his administration and perhaps even more so, the media!
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anyone else notice the COMPLETE lack of TI house LibTARDS in this discussion? I mean, what could they possibly say? Although I am CERTAIN nytiger will attempt.
It was a **** show both ways Trump just spouted lies about random crap with his time rather than answer questions. Both are too old. I wish there was a better choice. What are the odds that neither make it through full term? To me this boils down to giving up the democracy and votes mattering or autocracy under a crooked dirtbag who only cares for his ego and self serving interest.
We need ro take the trash out from both parties. Influence peddling and trump have ruined the Republican party. Just look at the trash they have put on scotus. Partisan politics is cancer to uniting our country.
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We have citizens united and a conservative Supreme Court to blame. Only way this gets fixed is if citizens United is overturned and that can only happen if the court shifts to the left.
But you need a democratic president to make that happen. In the mean time, we will get a bunch of party over country folks continuing to ***** about the situation while checking any box with an “R” next to it. Those are the biggest fools in this country.
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I didn’t say that he did. I said that he’s toeing the party line, which I see as how a 40 year old living in the DC beltway that did go to a snooty college would view things.
Seems like a fair enough assessment of the Democratic Party to me
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You didn't actually think he would remember the 13 Abby Gate victims, did you? Of course not !! He was too busy checking his watch every five minutes during the transfer... He's a POS...
My favorite Trump line- Joe you never fire anyone do you??
Trash they have put on scotus? Biden gave us a judge who does not know the difference between a man and a woman
I’m starting to think @areeves and all his NWO conspiracy talk might just be the most reasonable explanation for what we are experiencing right now.
This was all staged so the Dems could dump Joe. Newsome and Michelle Obama on deck
I only was able to watch a little of the debate.
Biden lost, bigly. He was mumbling, weak, and failed to pounce on trumps lies. He was terrible.
Trump was also terrible. He had zero substance. Like when they asked if his 10% tariffs would affect affect inflation. He said no and immediately launched into some ******** about millions of terrorists crossing the border. He so fortunate that Biden performed much, much worse.
I hope Biden steps aside, as I have been saying for 2+ years on this forum. I am afraid that someone more progressive could take his place, and then the far left would take over the dem party the same way the far right has taken over the Republican Party.
That ruling should never be overturned. The ruling isn't the problem. The system we have in place that allows for that circumstance is the problem. We could pass laws, amend the Constitution and work together to resolve what is a glaring hole in our electoral process. You really think that's the biggest problem? It's an issue but it's down the list and blaming the Supreme Court is demonstrative of a significant lack of understanding about what the job of the court is. Par for the course I'm afraid...
Exactly right. The Supreme Court is now doing what it was designed to do. Follow the Constitution.
The far right ?? I am nowhere near far-right politically... Did I vote for Trump? Yes, because I see the damage that is being done to this country with idiotic border policies, begging for oil from our enemies when it's produced so much cleaner right here at home, supporting socialist DA's that favor criminals over victims, cabinet secretaries nominated because of gender id instead of ability, and the fact that those above who fail are never replaced when performance is sub-par...
But, I am certainly not far-right... I support common sense abortion policies (16 weeks and with exceptions), I am pro 420 reform, I am pro-Ukraine, I am pro-immigration when done legally, and I am pro-NATO...
Never let these facts get in the way of a good lie they’ve been telling for the last years! They refuse to show police moving out or the way and letting people in the Capital. They refuse to show his speech where he said “peacefully protest”…it doesn’t help the Lefts lies!!
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Almost everything you have ever posted on this site is wildly wrong, including the above. And the hubris coming out of you is remarkable.
Go read some books and develop some ability to think critically.
I dunno … I could see a Michelle Obama/Newsome ticket for sure, but not a Newsome/Obama ticket.
It’s becoming more and more clear why Newsome agreed to debate DeSantis. It was a “test” to see how well Newsome polled and performed. DeSantis gutted him in the debate and the polling was atrocious, sooooooooo ya … Newsomr won’t get the nod.
People LOVE Michelle Obama, qualified or not she would obliterate Trump.
I think we are going to see either Obama or Gretchen Whitmer leading the ticket with Newsome as VP.
Either way, it won’t be Biden.