The difference in enthusiasm

JwUKFan11

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You're right, but the hard reality is that while the football team looks pretty good, they still probably won't make the playoffs, and then the Basketball team is just in complete disarray because we have a coach who is completely out of his element. Soon, we are going to have to invest a good amount of money in a new basketball coach.
 

UKWildcats1987

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You're right, but the hard reality is that while the football team looks pretty good, they still probably won't make the playoffs, and then the Basketball team is just in complete disarray because we have a coach who is completely out of his element. Soon, we are going to have to invest a good amount of money in a new basketball coach.

UK basketball wouldnt make the playoffs either if it was 12 teams.
 

MidseasonTweak

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The thing with Pope is that I fear he will not get on his guys and push them. The whole Garrison situation last year when Pope got on him good was almost certainly because Pope read a few threads or posts on RR about his coaching style - it wasn't a sincere coaching moment(s).
 

Snarks

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You're right, but the hard reality is that while the football team looks pretty good, they still probably won't make the playoffs, and then the Basketball team is just in complete disarray because we have a coach who is completely out of his element. Soon, we are going to have to invest a good amount of money in a new basketball coach.
Of course UK football won’t make the playoffs. But, the fact people are even having that conversation is amazing in Steins first season.
 

Rainmaker

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Between football and basketball is the furthest apart it’s ever been in favor of football. Stein is building a winner and Pope is going to struggle again this season.
It’s only a difference in expectations. Football being ranked at all is considered good. Basketball being outside the top 10 and anything less than final four is considered failure. Different expectations is the only difference there is and we as fans cause that.
 

bbnkat02

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It’s only a difference in expectations. Football being ranked at all is considered good. Basketball being outside the top 10 and anything less than final four is considered failure. Different expectations is the only difference there is and we as fans cause that.
No our history caused that. Success is a two edged sword.

Bama fans wanted DeBoer gone last year. Now he’s got Bama kicking ***.
This is a huge year for Pope. It’s out up or shut up time.

He of ALL peoples knew what he was signing up for.
 

UKWildcats1987

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No our history caused that. Success is a two edged sword.

Bama fans wanted DeBoer gone last year. Now he’s got Bama kicking ***.
This is a huge year for Pope. It’s out up or shut up time.

He of ALL peoples knew what he was signing up for.

DeBoer is way more qualified to coach Bama football than pope is to coach uk basketball. Deboer took Washington to a national title game. Pope had a decade of losing and doing nothing but mitch thought that qualified him for the uk gig.
 

Catastic5

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No our history caused that. Success is a two edged sword.

Bama fans wanted DeBoer gone last year. Now he’s got Bama kicking ***.
This is a huge year for Pope. It’s out up or shut up time.

He of ALL peoples knew what he was signing up for.
Deboer went to the SEC title game and was in the playoffs last season. Pope can’t even sniff the top half of the SEC.
 

LineSkiCat14

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You're right, but the hard reality is that while the football team looks pretty good, they still probably won't make the playoffs, and then the Basketball team is just in complete disarray because we have a coach who is completely out of his element. Soon, we are going to have to invest a good amount of money in a new basketball coach.

Ill tell yah, if you can pay both coaches top dollar, perfect. But if not? And we cant get an absolute AAA-tier coach like Hurley, etc? I'd go with a young coach for cheaper (as opposed to someone like Scott Drew for $10mil) and pay Stein to make him stay.

I know its a basketball state, but I have to believe if Kentucky can make the college playoff and be somewhat of a threat, thats going to make similar money to the basketball team being in the top10. Could be wrong.
 

JwUKFan11

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Of course UK football won’t make the playoffs. But, the fact people are even having that conversation is amazing in Steins first season.
Sure, it's cool. But this is a basketball state and always will be, and these teams Pope are putting out there just aren't good enough. That needs to change. Excitement for football is fun, but we still need to be competing for championships in bball.
 
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Cliffhanger82

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You're right, but the hard reality is that while the football team looks pretty good, they still probably won't make the playoffs, and then the Basketball team is just in complete disarray because we have a coach who is completely out of his element. Soon, we are going to have to invest a good amount of money in a new basketball coach.
Who are some of the folks who may be interested in being the next coach?
 

Skyguyb27

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Who are some of the folks who may be interested in being the next coach?
Not saying you, you may have asked sincerely but generally people always cry who will replace the coach. People were scared to push Stoops out and ask who would replace him now in just 6 short games later they wouldn’t take him as a water boy to this coaching staff.

There’s always someone in the distance waiting.
 

Snarks

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Not saying you, you may have asked sincerely but generally people always cry who will replace the coach. People were scared to push Stoops out and ask who would replace him now in just 6 short games later they wouldn’t take him as a water boy to this coaching staff.

There’s always someone in the distance waiting.
There were still better candidates than Pope when he was hired. If we were going to roll the dice on an unproven coach, why not get a young up and comer (similar to Stein)? Instead we got an unproven coach with a proven track record whose best accomplishment was he played here.

I would have rather Mitch rolled the dice on Jai Lucas or a mid major coach who had success.

Problem is we rolled the dice once and it failed, we need a sure thing next time. I have faith Batt won’t panic like Mitch did and get a good hire.
 

Doc4UK!

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That was not Kentucky basketball we witnessed last night. We still do not really have any idea of what we are doing on offense. Way too many turnovers and no screens set for all of these "so called" great shooters (only one I saw was Milan).

Last night, both Diallo and Wilkins look like mid-tier players and those are the two guards who are supposed to carry us this year. Williams Jr will likely be our starting PG before SEC play begins, but he is certainly not a John Wall or a De'Aaron Fox. We are left to wonder what exactly Pope's offense is and is it even effective for today's college game?.
 
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