The Force Awakens
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New cast, who dis? He appears to be getting Force-lobotomied.
His name is Poe Dameron played by Oscar Issac. He is a pilot for the Resistance (formerly the Rebel Alliance).
All time great. I was looking for the SNL Star Wars Auditions and could not find them in a quick search. Great stuff, especially Kevin Spacey's stuff (Walken, Matthau, Jack Lemon).
Agreed.
For anyone that may not have seen any of the movies but wants to watch them then I suggest this order - 4,5,6,1,2,3. But there is a strong argument to watch them in this order - 4,5,2,3,6. Skip 1 altogether. Here is a good blog that sums that up but if you haven't seen them then don't click as there are spoilers.
http://www.nomachetejuggling.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-order/
http://www.nomachetejuggling.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-order/
You have to show your kids Episode 1. Otherwise how would they know that too could become narcissistic, paranoid, child-killers?
Well, that sounds pretty dark when you put it like that. The sexual attraction from an 18-year old Padme and a 10-year old Anakin was weird enough.
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This is some speculation on my part but after watching that trailer and the focus it puts on Boyega, Ridley, and Driver's characters the more I'm convinced that all three are Force users. Driver's Ren is obvious and Boyega's too but Ridley is being set up as the "new Luke" of these films. I won't be shocked if Ridley and Ren are both Skywalker/Solo's who were split up the way Luke and Leia were to hide them from some greater threat. Ren obviously is obsessed with Vader (a "fanboy" if you will) and his "legacy". Which honestly we don't know what that means. Anakin was the one who brought balance to the Force and the first six movies are basically the rise, fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker.
Luke, after Empire, was focused on "redeeming" or "saving" his father Anakin. Maybe Ren's purpose is "redeeming" or "saving" Darth Vader? Maybe the First Order blames Vader for the destruction of the Empire and Ren's goal (whereas Luke saw only his father, Ren sees Darth Vader) is to restore Vader to a position of reverence. Which makes Ren an Anti-Luke in a way.
I don't know. Just fanboy speculation myself.
This is some speculation on my part but after watching that trailer and the focus it puts on Boyega, Ridley, and Driver's characters the more I'm convinced that all three are Force users. Driver's Ren is obvious and Boyega's too but Ridley is being set up as the "new Luke" of these films. I won't be shocked if Ridley and Ren are both Skywalker/Solo's who were split up the way Luke and Leia were to hide them from some greater threat. Ren obviously is obsessed with Vader (a "fanboy" if you will) and his "legacy". Which honestly we don't know what that means. Anakin was the one who brought balance to the Force and the first six movies are basically the rise, fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker.
Luke, after Empire, was focused on "redeeming" or "saving" his father Anakin. Maybe Ren's purpose is "redeeming" or "saving" Darth Vader? Maybe the First Order blames Vader for the destruction of the Empire and Ren's goal (whereas Luke saw only his father, Ren sees Darth Vader) is to restore Vader to a position of reverence. Which makes Ren an Anti-Luke in a way.
I don't know. Just fanboy speculation myself.
The Force Awakens has beaten The Hunger Games record for pre-sale tickets sold on the first day of availability by a factor of 8!
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-the-force-awakens-ticket-sales-1201621977/
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-the-force-awakens-ticket-sales-1201621977/
Love this. Trying to get my wife to watch these, and I had to trade Disney movies for Star Wars. So for every episode I make her watch, I'm stuck with Aladdin or Little Mermaid. Plus, Episode I sucked. The rationale in that post swayed me.
That would be an obvious conclusion maybe too obvious. But it's Abrams we're talking about here...everyone and their mother knew it was Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness despite the denials.
Wouldn't shock me if it played out that Rey and Ren are both Skywalker descendants. Abrams loves to invoke nostalgia, ideas of fate, etc. and I think this film is designed specifically for that from both a story perspective and a marketing one.
I know it's some twist but I hope it's nothing lazy but it very well could be Luke's son and the ages would probably line up.
It looks badass though. Anxious to see Solo/Chewie.
I was meaning an actual cloning of Anakin/Vader or some other force users.
Maybe it's Samuel Jackson clone under the helm.
Driver looks more like a Leia/Han coupling to me. I think maybe it's too obvious though. Sometimes I think I just like the theory that Ren's an obsessed fanboy.
But if that occurred, wouldn't it have been touched on in the originals? I don't think they will got he cloning route.
I enjoy this theory as well but hopefully there will be some explanation on how that came to be,
According to the new canonicity of the recent post-RotJ novels and comics....
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The "precursors" of the Knights of Ren were hunting down Vader artifacts including his lightsaber.
SUCK! SUCK! SUCK! SUCK! SUCK! SUCK! OH NO! SHE'S GONE FROM SUCK TO BLOW!
I don't know whether to laugh at this or take offense. Too late, I was laughing before I started typing.
The thing is, Lucas could have taken the general story concept but handed the dialogue off to someone else. That was never his strong suit and it is no coincidence that the most critically acclaimed installment was not directed by him.
Really going out a limb here by saying the 3 people using lightsabers are also force users?
Well, we do know that since Vader killed all the Jedi, and in episode IV, we see Vader strangle Admiral Motti with the force. "Lack of faith disturbing."
Since the Jedi are all gone, probably relates to Ridley asking Solo if the stories are all true.
I am of the opinion that they are essentially making the same movie as the original trilogy, just with updated characters. Cant mess it up.
Vader = Ren
Luke/Leia= Boyega and Ridley (adding in the storm trooper addition, which we see Luke in IV)
Luke=Yoda/Ben Kenobi
Same plot lines will happen. Not really going out a limb here either.
But who knows.
The crashed Imperial Cruiser is a thing of beauty.
Since the Jedi are all gone, probably relates to Ridley asking Solo if the stories are all true.
I am of the opinion that they are essentially making the same movie as the original trilogy, just with updated characters. Cant mess it up.
Vader = Ren
Luke/Leia= Boyega and Ridley (adding in the storm trooper addition, which we see Luke in IV)
Luke=Yoda/Ben Kenobi
Same plot lines will happen. Not really going out a limb here either.
But who knows.
The crashed Imperial Cruiser is a thing of beauty.
Really going out a limb here by saying the 3 people using lightsabers are also force users?
To be honest I'm kind of shaky on Boyega's Finn. That would be classic Abrams mystery box, misdirection bs.
Yea, maybe. Han did use the lightsaber to cut open the tauntaun on Hoth, and General Greivious in one of the crap prequels. So it could be that Boyega is using a light saber.
I actually think that scene is closer to Empire on Dagobah, were Luke goes into the cave and sees Vader. In so much that its not real. Either training simulation, or something. But who knows.
I actually think that scene is closer to Empire on Dagobah, were Luke goes into the cave and sees Vader. In so much that its not real. Either training simulation, or something. But who knows.
Doesn't really mean anything, but it's always been said that in the early drafts of the original movie, lightsabers were waaaaay more common than they ended up being in the end. As in, stormtroopers were all armed with them. There's Ralph McQuarrie concept art to back that up. It could be as simple as Finn having received some rudimentary training in their use because he was a stormtrooper.
When all is said and done, I expect Rey to be the one with the force abilities.
I didn't know that, but I've heard stories about Boba Fett using a saber. I've read some spoilers, as in some of the characters are an amalgamation from books and cartoon.but who knows.
As I said, I think the new one will mirror IV
There is some "slight of hand" going on in that trailer.
first off, As the voice over starts in this shot I'm pretty sure that's Captain Phasma standing on the bridge
And I'm not so sure if Kylo is holding that Vader helmet. Just because it's all in that little sequence doesn't mean it's connected.
first off, As the voice over starts in this shot I'm pretty sure that's Captain Phasma standing on the bridge
And I'm not so sure if Kylo is holding that Vader helmet. Just because it's all in that little sequence doesn't mean it's connected.
There is some "slight of hand" going on in that trailer.
first off, As the voice over starts in this shot I'm pretty sure that's Captain Phasma standing on the bridge
And I'm not so sure if Kylo is holding that Vader helmet. Just because it's all in that little sequence doesn't mean it's connected.
Very well could be from Max Von Sydow's character.
Exactly! There's still some key figures out there that we haven't really seen yet. Andy Serkis and Max are 2 that definitely come to mind. IMDB even has people listed without their cast name. That guy who played one of the Ewoks is on there but his character name is missing.
If you're referring to Warwick Davis, I'm guessing he's probably going to be in just cameo type role, like Simon Pegg. I don't think their characters are going to be integral to the plot.