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The left has NOTHING concrete to talk about. Six months into Sleepy Joe’s term, the libs here have yet to produce 1 solid positive he’s done, instead their only goal is to fire off shots about Trump. Divert from the real issues.
Their mission is to merely find a problem (or problems), assign blame to anyone right of center, and then smear the **** out of them. They are no more worried about solving real issues than I am about going to Mars.
 
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The left has NOTHING concrete to talk about. Six months into Sleepy Joe’s term, the libs here have yet to produce 1 solid positive he’s done, instead their only goal is to fire off shots about Trump. Divert from the real issues.
Their mission is to merely find a problem (or problems), assign blame to anyone right of center, and then smear the **** out of them. They are no more worried about solving real issues than I am about going to Mars.
We’ve seen this movie before Obama blamed everything on Bush for eight years so Joe is just gettin started
 
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The left has NOTHING concrete to talk about. Six months into Sleepy Joe’s term, the libs here have yet to produce 1 solid positive he’s done, instead their only goal is to fire off shots about Trump. Divert from the real issues.
Their mission is to merely find a problem (or problems), assign blame to anyone right of center, and then smear the **** out of them. They are no more worried about solving real issues than I am about going to Mars.
True the Dems will try to keep the racial wounds festering with voter suppression lies for awhile until the next criminal dies while resisting arrest or after attacking a cop then it will be BLM front and center again Anything to divert attention from run away inflation, a senile commander in chief, and a cackling hen waiting in the wings to become the most powerful person in the world
 

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True the Dems will try to keep the racial wounds festering with voter suppression lies for awhile until the next criminal dies while resisting arrest or after attacking a cop then it will be BLM front and center again Anything to divert attention from run away inflation, a senile commander in chief, and a cackling hen waiting in the wings to become the most powerful person in the world
So. Freaking. True. Here’s a classic example of the left. Nothing we can do cause the inmates run the jail.
 
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Have you seen footage of school board meetings of parents railing against CRT? It would probably be news to them that CRT is not taught at their children’s elem schools or , even more to the point, on their home computer for the home schooled. The facts are not on your side. Furthermore, unless Republicans have made serious inroads into Black and brown communities , not all of these concerned parents are on the “right” I would wager
What facts are not on her side? Footage of parents at school board meetings is anecdotal.
 
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I’m sure there’s not a lesson plan entitled “Why White People are Evil”. However, when you only focus on the negative aspects of our history and ignore things like social mobility, expanded suffrage for the poor and women, and immigration from every corner of the globe you are propagandizing and not teaching history in any meaningful sense. I’m guessing proponents of CRT have a hard time explaining why people want to come here from all over the world. People typically flee oppressive regimes not risk life and limb to emigrate to them
If the negative aspects of our history have traditionally been swept under the rug, advocating for ADDING that isn't a focus on ONLY that. Leaving it out in favor of only the positive is propaganda. Isn't tellong the full story more appropriate content for teaching people critical thinking skills?

As for people coming here, can Walmart or McDonald's -- for example -- employ tons and tons of people AND be terrible, exploitive employers? Can't both things be true? We already know how successful those companies are. If we're telling the truth, doesn't that include the ugly parts? And since we already know the good stuff, telling the whole truth means adding the bad stuff.

Help me understand. This seems like you're forgetting the cereal is already in the bowl when it's time to add milk.
 

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Good morning, dattier. Normally I would not say anything, but when someone is misgendered, it can be very painful for them. Sometimes in a life altering way. @durhamgolfer 's pronouns are she, her, hers.
You really can be a patronizing jerk. If you have learned nothing else in our time on this string, I would have thought you would have recognized that I am more than capable of standing up for myself. And no, I don’t for a second think that you corrected Dat’s choice of pronouns out of concern for me. As you have done in the past, you were clearly making fun of the trans/gender fluidity movement
 

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You really can be a patronizing jerk. If you have learned nothing else in our time on this string, I would have thought you would have recognized that I am more than capable of standing up for myself. And no, I don’t for a second think that you corrected Dat’s choice of pronouns out of concern for me. As you have done in the past, you were clearly making fun of the trans/gender fluidity movement
Yikes. Somebody must have not had their morning cup of joe. So angry.

No worries. I actually could care less about the choice of pronouns.

I think what you meant to say is that you COULDN'T care less. If you could care less, it means you do care, just that you could care less. But I have to ask. Why don't you care? It's so important to so many. It seems a little heartless to be so dismissive to that demographic of society when they need your love now more than ever.
 

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If the negative aspects of our history have traditionally been swept under the rug, advocating for ADDING that isn't a focus on ONLY that. Leaving it out in favor of only the positive is propaganda. Isn't tellong the full story more appropriate content for teaching people critical thinking skills?

As for people coming here, can Walmart or McDonald's -- for example -- employ tons and tons of people AND be terrible, exploitive employers? Can't both things be true? We already know how successful those companies are. If we're telling the truth, doesn't that include the ugly parts? And since we already know the good stuff, telling the whole truth means adding the bad stuff.

Help me understand. This seems like you're forgetting the cereal is already in the bowl when it's time to add milk.

Here's the thing, that part of history hasn't been swept under the rug. It has been taught, discussed and been used to show progress. In the less than 250 years our country has gone from owning slaves to electing an African American president. I have sat in classes where the treatment of African Americans in the 1960's was taught. Not as a way to tell one group to feel bad or place blame but to expose it, to prevent it from happening again, to show that progress has been made. It was taught in a way not to play victim hood but to encourage those that are here now. Those came before you couldn't ride the bus to school, were spit on and attacked. So when you just don't feel like getting up and going to school or completing work, remember the footsteps that you are following.
 
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If the negative aspects of our history have traditionally been swept under the rug, advocating for ADDING that isn't a focus on ONLY that. Leaving it out in favor of only the positive is propaganda. Isn't tellong the full story more appropriate content for teaching people critical thinking skills?

As for people coming here, can Walmart or McDonald's -- for example -- employ tons and tons of people AND be terrible, exploitive employers? Can't both things be true? We already know how successful those companies are. If we're telling the truth, doesn't that include the ugly parts? And since we already know the good stuff, telling the whole truth means adding the bad stuff.

Help me understand. This seems like you're forgetting the cereal is already in the bowl when it's time to add milk.
“Traditionally swept under the rug” is a falsehood . Liberals have been writing grade school textbooks for decades. If anything, students learn more about civil rights issues than anything else. An elem school teacher recently told me that every historical figure taught in third grade is either a Civil War Era freedom fighter Douglas Tubman later Chavez Castro totally one sided view of history. Big Government Good Business and Freedom bad Thats nonCRT proponents of CRT claim that it’s filling a gap that doesn’t exist The end game of CRT is not “teaching history”; it’s reparations and a more robust quota system that the courts will be cowed into rubber stamping lest they be called racist
 

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If the negative aspects of our history have traditionally been swept under the rug, advocating for ADDING that isn't a focus on ONLY that. Leaving it out in favor of only the positive is propaganda. Isn't tellong the full story more appropriate content for teaching people critical thinking skills?

As for people coming here, can Walmart or McDonald's -- for example -- employ tons and tons of people AND be terrible, exploitive employers? Can't both things be true? We already know how successful those companies are. If we're telling the truth, doesn't that include the ugly parts? And since we already know the good stuff, telling the whole truth means adding the bad stuff.

Help me understand. This seems like you're forgetting the cereal is already in the bowl when it's time to add milk.
I would strongly suggest you talk with parents and teachers who have first hand knowledge of CRT not what’s been rinsed and sanitized through the filter of Cnn and msnbheehaw
 

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I choose to believe that the others have been so slanted, and bad, that other media outlets were created.
If it is simply your belief, I would expect less language implying it is fact.

Media created in response to perceived bias in other media is already getting it wrong from the get-go. They've decided their slant before they write the story and retrofit the evidence to fit that. Just like diverse urban areas and college education and travel abroad leads to more liberal social views on average, journalists covering a wide range of people, places, and things are more often going to skew left. In and of itself, that's not an indictment of their work. Most journalists try* to be as unbiased as possible; it's just that humans aren't perfect. (*They try until they get caught up in the way the game is played now, anyway.) NBC, which someone scoffed at earlier, is considered "left-leaning" by the site I just linked. Leaning, as in, not extreme. The AP is considered among the least biased. The site you cited is all the way right. If that's the news you consume, of course neutral things are going to seem liberal by comparison.
 
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If it is simply your belief, I would expect less language implying it is fact.

Media created in response to perceived bias in other media is already getting it wrong from the get-go. They've decided their slant before they write the story and retrofit the evidence to fit that. Just like diverse urban areas and college education and travel abroad leads to more liberal social views on average, journalists covering a wide range of people, places, and things are more often going to skew left. In and of itself, that's not an indictment of their work. Most journalists try* to be as unbiased as possible; it's just that humans aren't perfect. (*They try until they get caught up in the way the game is played now, anyway.) NBC, which someone scoffed at earlier, is considered "left-leaning" by the site I just linked. Leaning, as in, not extreme. The AP is considered among the least biased. The site you cited is all the way right. If that's the news you consume, of course neutral things are going to seem liberal by comparison.
That’s quite a Bob Beiman sp leap you made there from “left leaning” NBC to the “least biased” AP to “neutral things”. Hope you didn’t pull anything
 
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Here's the thing, that part of history hasn't been swept under the rug. It has been taught, discussed and been used to show progress. In the less than 250 years our country has gone from owning slaves to electing an African American president. I have sat in classes where the treatment of African Americans in the 1960's was taught. Not as a way to tell one group to feel bad or place blame but to expose it, to prevent it from happening again, to show that progress has been made. It was taught in a way not to play victim hood but to encourage those that are here now. Those came before you couldn't ride the bus to school, were spit on and attacked. So when you just don't feel like getting up and going to school or completing work, remember the footsteps that you are following.
A lot of it has, though. The Civil War was about slavery, not ambiguous, philosophical states' rights. And MLK was a radical who pissed off the establishment, not the watered down peaceful guy we often celebrate today. And we learn about Brown v BOE and the Civil Rights Act of '64, but not about how real-estate redlining kept schools segregated for decades after that in some places.

Generally speaking, telling people who still have it bad that they should be grateful they don't have it as bad as their grandparents is not going to be well received.
 

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I would strongly suggest you talk with parents and teachers who have first hand knowledge of CRT not what’s been rinsed and sanitized through the filter of Cnn and msnbheehaw
I watch/read neither CNN nor MSNBC. I am a teacher and I support CRT. Most teachers feel the same way. And that's just as anecdotal as the parents and teachers you suggest I talk to.
 

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“Traditionally swept under the rug” is a falsehood . Liberals have been writing grade school textbooks for decades. If anything, students learn more about civil rights issues than anything else. An elem school teacher recently told me that every historical figure taught in third grade is either a Civil War Era freedom fighter Douglas Tubman later Chavez Castro totally one sided view of history. Big Government Good Business and Freedom bad Thats nonCRT proponents of CRT claim that it’s filling a gap that doesn’t exist The end game of CRT is not “teaching history”; it’s reparations and a more robust quota system that the courts will be cowed into rubber stamping lest they be called racist
That does not resemble any curriculum I am familiar with. It is again anecdotal.
 

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That’s quite a Bob Beiman sp leap you made there from “left leaning” NBC to the “least biased” AP to “neutral things”. Hope you didn’t pull anything
I'm not sure what you're getting at. If it's not humanly possible to be perfectly neutral, "least biased" is as close as we can get. It seems like you're missing the forest for the trees, though, to focus so narrowly on a handful of words.
 

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Datt, you said all you needed to when you said you’re a teacher. That explains a lot.

INSTITUTIONALIZED
 
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I watch/read neither CNN nor MSNBC. I am a teacher and I support CRT. Most teachers feel the same way. And that's just as anecdotal as the parents and teachers you suggest I talk to.

What do you teach your students about race relations?
 

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Datt, you said all you needed to when you said you’re a teacher. That explains a lot.

INSTITUTIONALIZED
“Most teachers feel the same way” reminds me of Joy Reid making fun of Republicans who focus on the increased rate in large cities by saying “me and some friends ate in midtown just last week and we didn’t see anyone getting mugged”
 

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Actually in some ways their grandparents had it better and it had nothing to with systemic racism. Their grandparents were more likely to grow up in a two parent home, less likely to be in a crime infested hellhole called a hood. Even more importantly their grandparents were not likely poisoned by the pervasive victim mentality spread by so-called civil rights leaders like Al Sharpton. Before anyone puts words in my mouth I’m not advocating a return to Jim Crow era legislation but merely opining that the African Am comm is regressing in some ways or at the very least stagnating: crime rate among young men , strength of the nuclear family, and the achievement gap which all ensure that they will lag behind other ethnic groups economically
 
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Actually in some ways their grandparents had it better and it had nothing to with systemic racism. Their grandparents were more likely to grow up in a two parent home, less likely to be in a crime infested hellhole called a hood. Even more importantly their grandparents were not likely poisoned by the pervasive victim mentality spread by so-called civil rights leaders like Al Sharpton. Before anyone puts words in my mouth I’m not advocating a return to Jim Crow era legislation but merely opining that the African Am comm is regressing in some ways or at the very least stagnating: crime rate among young men , strength of the nuclear family, and the achievement gap which all ensure that they will lag behind other ethnic groups economically
Yes, they are regressing. It’s by design too. The hacks like Sharpton, and many others, aren’t interested in making things better. I’m not sure liberals in general are either.
They are more interested in finding a problem, and finding who to blame.
The ones like Sharpton have one agenda: lining their own pockets.
 
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Actually in some ways their grandparents had it better and it had nothing to with systemic racism. Their grandparents were more likely to grow up in a two parent home, less likely to be in a crime infested hellhole called a hood. Even more importantly their grandparents were not likely poisoned by the pervasive victim mentality spread by so-called civil rights leaders like Al Sharpton. Before anyone puts words in my mouth I’m not advocating a return to Jim Crow era legislation but merely opining that the African Am comm is regressing in some ways or at the very least stagnating: crime rate among young men , strength of the nuclear family, and the achievement gap which all ensure that they will lag behind other ethnic groups economically
Cuz lynching was such a great method of law enforcement. Sorry that Ghost’s name got in here. Problem with the cellphone software
 

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Cuz lynching was such a great method of law enforcement. Sorry that Ghost’s name got in here. Problem with the cellphone software
That's weird. But to your comment. What do lynching or any method of law enforcement have to do with what he said?