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Today must be angry liberal day. Or is that every day that ends in Y?
You're the one parroting the nonsense that the Russians were helping Hillary. Really? With friends like that she sure as hell did not need enemies. She really got a boost from them leaking her emails in dribs and drabs before the election.
 

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You're the one parroting the nonsense that the Russians were helping Hillary. Really? With friends like that she sure as hell did not need enemies. She really got a boost from them leaking her emails in dribs and drabs before the election.
Can you show where I said anything remotely close to the Russians were helping Hillary. Anything close will do.
 

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I looked at this thread for the first time in a few days.

I liked it better when @GhostOf301 and I were saying things like (paraphrasing), "I understand why you would feel that way but I disagree with you," and ,"we have different experiences so I don't expect you to feel the way I do."
 
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I looked at this thread for the first time in a few days.

I liked it better when @GhostOf301 and I were saying things like (paraphrasing), "I understand why you would feel that way but I disagree with you," and ,"we have different experiences so I don't expect you to feel the way I do."

You assume that these people are debating in good faith and you are wrong in that assumption. While I think you’re one of the best here at articulating your points, you’re mistaken if you think these guys will ever give you credit.

I will say that @GhostOf301 is the most reasonable among them. I even find myself agreeing with him from time to time. Hard to believe right? I even laugh with @SNU0821 from time to time.

@Mac9192 and @topps coach are so firmly in the bubble it’s not really worth the effort. I assume it’s because they’re old and locked in their ways. Nothing you say is going to move them.
 
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The only thing that any of our resident snowflakes have said that’s true is that I am firmly in the “bubble” and locked in my ways politically. Guilty, and not ashamed.
There’s nothing the left says nowadays that I think will help our country. Nothing. Personally, I think any person left of center is on the delusional side.
To take it one step further, I think @durhamgolfer, @Crest is Garbage, and @Shatterthesky22, or the 3 stooges, are all batshit crazy. Two of you are too young, and your testicles haven’t dropped yet, and the other is, I think, an angry woman.
 

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The only thing that any of our resident snowflakes have said that’s true is that I am firmly in the “bubble” and locked in my ways politically. Guilty, and not ashamed.
There’s nothing the left says nowadays that I think will help our country. Nothing. Personally, I think any person left of center is on the delusional side.
To take it one step further, I think @durhamgolfer, @Crest is Garbage, and @Shatterthesky22, or the 3 stooges, are all batshit crazy. Two of you are too young, and your testicles haven’t dropped yet, and the other is, I think, an angry woman.
At least my testicles work pal. Not my fault your sorry *** can't please your woman.
 
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The only thing that any of our resident snowflakes have said that’s true is that I am firmly in the “bubble” and locked in my ways politically. Guilty, and not ashamed.
There’s nothing the left says nowadays that I think will help our country. Nothing. Personally, I think any person left of center is on the delusional side.
To take it one step further, I think @durhamgolfer, @Crest is Garbage, and @Shatterthesky22, or the 3 stooges, are all batshit crazy. Two of you are too young, and your testicles haven’t dropped yet, and the other is, I think, an angry woman.
No offense taken! I love old people bro!
 
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Realistically, I think that most of the people here are good people with the exception of a few.

We obviously disagree on policy but I don’t hold that against anyone. I have enjoyed the back and forth over the last few months.

For those that can’t stomach political talk, grow a set. Welcome to the real world.
 
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Boy you are really fixated on another man’ s testicles not really surprising
Dude, haven't you heard? Mac's balls are bigly, the biggest most beautiful balls the world's ever seen. One can't help but be fixated when you literally can't see anything other than the enormous circumference of Mac's Earth sized sack.
 

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Dude, haven't you heard? Mac's balls are bigly, the biggest most beautiful balls the world's ever seen. One can't help but be fixated when you literally can't see anything other than the enormous circumference of Mac's Earth sized sack.
Trump’s are bigger
 

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The only thing that any of our resident snowflakes have said that’s true is that I am firmly in the “bubble” and locked in my ways politically. Guilty, and not ashamed.
There’s nothing the left says nowadays that I think will help our country. Nothing. Personally, I think any person left of center is on the delusional side.
To take it one step further, I think @durhamgolfer, @Crest is Garbage, and @Shatterthesky22, or the 3 stooges, are all batshit crazy. Two of you are too young, and your testicles haven’t dropped yet, and the other is, I think, an angry woman.
what part of the so-called left's ideas do you have a problem with?
 

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what part of the so-called left's ideas do you have a problem with?
Abortions up to the moment of birth and after,no border security and free healthcare and college for illegal aliens,defunding the police and ending fracking which means gas prices over three dollars a gallon to name a few
 
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Abortions up to the moment of birth and after,no border security and free healthcare and college for illegal aliens,defunding the police and ending fracking which means gas prices over three dollars a gallon to name a few
After the moment of birth? That's called murder buddy. No one is saying for there to be no border security and no one is talking about free healthcare and college for them. Maybe improving our ability to get immigrants citizenship quicker and yes, free healthcare and cheap college for all legal US citizens. None of this is bad. Fracking needs to go full stop if we want to keep our planet healthy for generations to come and ensure our children don't have to fight against a global warming issue that is too far gone.
 

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Other than their views on taxes, healthcare, abortion, immigration, guns, police, foreign policy, crime, energy/fuel, and the whole free stuff garbage? None, I guess
I should have known better than to ask. I was actually hoping to start a decent conversation. I should have learned.
 
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Abortions up to the moment of birth and after,no border security and free healthcare and college for illegal aliens,defunding the police and ending fracking which means gas prices over three dollars a gallon to name a few
other than ending fracking, which has been causing more and more earthquakes, you either have everything else wrong or so simplified as to be the same thing as wrong. As Shatter pointed out, abortions after birth are called murder. As for abortions "up to the moment of birth", women who have third-trimester intact dilation abortions do it because something has gone so horribly wrong with the pregnancy that their now lives are at risk. Is protecting their health wrong? While there is a more radical element that proposes open borders, most people on the left recognize the need to control the borders. And as Shatter said, they/we are absolutely not advocating for free healthcare and college for undocumented workers. You should know though that a lot of these undocumented workers pay income tax and the IRS knows exactly who they are. But money talks so they don't go after them.
 

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After the moment of birth? That's called murder buddy. No one is saying for there to be no border security and no one is talking about free healthcare and college for them. Maybe improving our ability to get immigrants citizenship quicker and yes, free healthcare and cheap college for all legal US citizens. None of this is bad. Fracking needs to go full stop if we want to keep our planet healthy for generations to come and ensure our children don't have to fight against a global warming issue that is too far gone.
Have u listened the governor of Virginia.His stance was echoed by most of the left.You are too stupid to understand that nothing is free so free college and healthcare will eventually be paid for by millions of taxpayers and like any massive government program costs will spiral and quality goes down.Since Btw Obamacare raised the price of healthcare went up by over 2000 per family.After Trump pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord our emission have been reduced by ten percent
 
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other than ending fracking, which has been causing more and more earthquakes, you either have everything else wrong or so simplified as to be the same thing as wrong. As Shatter pointed out, abortions after birth are called murder. As for abortions "up to the moment of birth", women who have third-trimester intact dilation abortions do it because something has gone so horribly wrong with the pregnancy that their now lives are at risk. Is protecting their health wrong? While there is a more radical element that proposes open borders, most people on the left recognize the need to control the borders. And as Shatter said, they/we are absolutely not advocating for free healthcare and college for undocumented workers. You should know though that a lot of these undocumented workers pay income tax and the IRS knows exactly who they are. But money talks so they don't go after them.
Right now it is murder for abortions but if the left has its way that will no longer be the case.Please Google the Virginia governors statement on abortion which the left widely applauded.Thirty years ago most Democrats said abortions should be rare.Only instance that should be available is in the case of rape,incest or life of the mother is at risk.One other is what my nephews wife just wen though was her baby had a medical condition that he would live no longer than a week and would be in constant pain
 

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I answered honestly. You know I’m conservative.
I get you are conservative but having read a ton from both sides, it seems the conservatives have chosen to believe things that are not true when it comes to Biden and his supporters. When you say we could ruin this country, it makes me think that perhaps you have gotten wrong what you think people on the so-called left want.
 
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Right now it is murder for abortions but if the left has its way that will no longer be the case.Please Google the Virginia governors statement on abortion which the left widely applauded.Thirty years ago most Democrats said abortions should be rare.Only instance that should be available is in the case of rape,incest or life of the mother is at risk.One other is what my nephews wife just wen though was her baby had a medical condition that he would live no longer than a week and would be in constant pain
And those us who are pro-choice, still think that abortions should are safe, legal and rare. that has not changed
 

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I get you are conservative but having read a ton from both sides, it seems the conservatives have chosen to believe things that are not true when it comes to Biden and his supporters. When you say we could ruin this country, it makes me think that perhaps you have gotten wrong what you think people on the so-called left want.
Maybe all people on the left are not so radical.Ten years ago there wasn’t a hell of a lot of difference between Democrats and Republicans,however your party are controlled by the far left wing of your party.If you don’t believe me read Biden’s platform .It is probably between 95 percent of what Bernie and AOC advocated.You Will counter with Biden is a moderate but he will cow tail to them if he even lasts four years
 

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Right now it is murder for abortions but if the left has its way that will no longer be the case.Please Google the Virginia governors statement on abortion which the left widely applauded.Thirty years ago most Democrats said abortions should be rare.Only instance that should be available is in the case of rape,incest or life of the mother is at risk.One other is what my nephews wife just wen though was her baby had a medical condition that he would live no longer than a week and would be in constant pain

I googled Northam's comments and he actually said pretty much the same thing you did, minus the rape and incest part. He stated that late-term/time-out abortions would only be in the rare case that the mother's physical or mental well-being would be in jeopardy (basically what you stated as your opinion about the mother) or that the pregnancy was not viable (what you said about your nephew's wife).

My condolences to your nephew, your niece and their family.
 
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I googled Northam's comments and he actually said pretty much the same thing you did, minus the rape and incest part. He stated that late-term/time-out abortions would only be in the rare case that the mother's physical or mental well-being would be in jeopardy (basically what you stated as your opinion about the mother) or that the pregnancy was not viable (what you said about your nephew's wife).

My condolences to your nephew, your niece and their family.
He specifically said if the baby survives the abortion that the baby would be made comfortable until the mother could consult and decide what to do.If the baby is alive why is that not murder
 
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I get you are conservative but having read a ton from both sides, it seems the conservatives have chosen to believe things that are not true when it comes to Biden and his supporters. When you say we could ruin this country, it makes me think that perhaps you have gotten wrong what you think people on the so-called left want.
First, if Biden wins, do you honestly think he will serve a full term? I don’t. He isn’t healthy mentally. Harris is who the left wants. The real scary part is Harris and Pelosi. There isn’t anything I can find good to say about Pelosi.
This is just one small example of how corrupt our media is, and how evil she is. The salon owner in Pelosi’s district that was hammered financially due to COVID. With the mask mandates, she had the nerve to go into that lady’s salon without wearing a mask. Then, when called out on it, she said she was set up.
Pelosi is a horrible individual. Don’t even bring up her wanting to pass this next round of stimulus. They are trying to get money to bail out these cities that were destroyed by the thugs. Most, if not all, of these cities that they want to money to go to are run by democrats.
But, all anyone from the left wants to do is blame Trump. He can’t win. If he would have sent in federal help to stop the rioting and looting, he would have been called a bully.
I would have applause him if he would have tear gassed every rioter.
 

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First, if Biden wins, do you honestly think he will serve a full term? I don’t. He isn’t healthy mentally. Harris is who the left wants. The real scary part is Harris and Pelosi. There isn’t anything I can find good to say about Pelosi.
This is just one small example of how corrupt our media is, and how evil she is. The salon owner in Pelosi’s district that was hammered financially due to COVID. With the mask mandates, she had the nerve to go into that lady’s salon without wearing a mask. Then, when called out on it, she said she was set up.
Pelosi is a horrible individual. Don’t even bring up her wanting to pass this next round of stimulus. They are trying to get money to bail out these cities that were destroyed by the thugs. Most, if not all, of these cities that they want to money to go to are run by democrats.
But, all anyone from the left wants to do is blame Trump. He can’t win. If he would have sent in federal help to stop the rioting and looting, he would have been called a bully.
I would have applause him if he would have tear gassed every rioter.
I find it amazing that you poke fun at Biden's supposed lack of mental acuity when Trump is incapable of making a coherent sentence, let alone stringing a few together. Covefe anyone.
In any event, Harris is not who the left wanted. They have coalesced around the ticket because they/we feel strongly that the country will not survive another term of Trump's corruption. Pelosi has been great for this country. She gets a bad rap because she is the ***** who gets stuff done. But,she definitely was set up. She called ahead to find out the policy about going to the salon and was told to come in. Then, the owner gave the security tape to Fox News. Who does that? Someone who is setting her up.
As for the next round of bailouts, states and cities that have been hit by the pandemic have had their budgets decimated. In NYC, the mayor is doing weekly furloughs of city workers to try to help with the budget gap. As far as the cities being run by Democrats, big cities do tend to get run by Democrats. Trump and McConnell have made some pretty awful comments about these cities. Remember Trump saying that the pandemic numbers would be less if you cut out people in the blue states? That is really the guy you think is going to bring the country together? Then McConnell had the temerity to talk about not giving handouts to blue states. Cuomo correctly pointed out that Kentucky takes in more taxes than it pays so we have been bailing them out on a daily basis.
And when talking about corruption, how about Trump requiring the secret service to stay I his hotels and charging the government full freight for that?
 

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He specifically said if the baby survives the abortion that the baby would be made comfortable until the mother could consult and decide what to do.If the baby is alive why is that not murder
He specifically said the mother would dictate whether to use extraordinary life saving techniques or simply make the baby comfortable until it passes. That is not murder.
 

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He specifically said if the baby survives the abortion that the baby would be made comfortable until the mother could consult and decide what to do.If the baby is alive why is that not murder

See the post right above mine for specific wording. I thought that was clear what was said when I posted earlier.

Do you believe life begin at conception?
 

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I find it amazing that you poke fun at Biden's supposed lack of mental acuity when Trump is incapable of making a coherent sentence, let alone stringing a few together. Covefe anyone.
In any event, Harris is not who the left wanted. They have coalesced around the ticket because they/we feel strongly that the country will not survive another term of Trump's corruption. Pelosi has been great for this country. She gets a bad rap because she is the ***** who gets stuff done. But,she definitely was set up. She called ahead to find out the policy about going to the salon and was told to come in. Then, the owner gave the security tape to Fox News. Who does that? Someone who is setting her up.
As for the next round of bailouts, states and cities that have been hit by the pandemic have had their budgets decimated. In NYC, the mayor is doing weekly furloughs of city workers to try to help with the budget gap. As far as the cities being run by Democrats, big cities do tend to get run by Democrats. Trump and McConnell have made some pretty awful comments about these cities. Remember Trump saying that the pandemic numbers would be less if you cut out people in the blue states? That is really the guy you think is going to bring the country together? Then McConnell had the temerity to talk about not giving handouts to blue states. Cuomo correctly pointed out that Kentucky takes in more taxes than it pays so we have been bailing them out on a daily basis.
And when talking about corruption, how about Trump requiring the secret service to stay I his hotels and charging the government full freight for that?
Uh Harris by her votes is the most liberal Senator in the Senate so why doesn’t the left want her.You have never answered my question about why Harris is a good candidate since she only had a five percent approval rating during the Democratic Primaries.Well Trump or his family family had not accepted a billion dollar deal from China.You think that may be why he said Cmon man China is not competition for they are really good people
 
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I find it amazing that you poke fun at Biden's supposed lack of mental acuity when Trump is incapable of making a coherent sentence, let alone stringing a few together. Covefe anyone.
In any event, Harris is not who the left wanted. They have coalesced around the ticket because they/we feel strongly that the country will not survive another term of Trump's corruption. Pelosi has been great for this country. She gets a bad rap because she is the ***** who gets stuff done. But,she definitely was set up. She called ahead to find out the policy about going to the salon and was told to come in. Then, the owner gave the security tape to Fox News. Who does that? Someone who is setting her up.
As for the next round of bailouts, states and cities that have been hit by the pandemic have had their budgets decimated. In NYC, the mayor is doing weekly furloughs of city workers to try to help with the budget gap. As far as the cities being run by Democrats, big cities do tend to get run by Democrats. Trump and McConnell have made some pretty awful comments about these cities. Remember Trump saying that the pandemic numbers would be less if you cut out people in the blue states? That is really the guy you think is going to bring the country together? Then McConnell had the temerity to talk about not giving handouts to blue states. Cuomo correctly pointed out that Kentucky takes in more taxes than it pays so we have been bailing them out on a daily basis.
And when talking about corruption, how about Trump requiring the secret service to stay I his hotels and charging the government full freight for that?
I find it hard to believe you could post this with a straight face. You lost me at the part where you degraded Trump, yet say nothing about Biden. Anyone with half a brain, and I mean anyone, knows Biden isn’t well. That’s why he’s been kept in the basement so much. The media knows it, but has been told to not say anything about it. Pelosi wasn’t set up. The salon owner has lost money, her way of living, due to COVID. Pelosi is an old hag that is wasting oxygen that someone else could really use.
Trump isn’t polished, but he’s sharp. Biden is washed up. Harris was their pick.
This isn’t rocket science. Someone really corrupt has her there.

Look up where some of Soros’s money has gone to, in terms of his donations. Follow the money from him. One in particular, is the District attorney in St Lous. The same hack that tried to have charges brought against the couple that kept the rioters out of their house. Think he also made a donation to Harris a while back. Soros is an evil man.
There is nothing the left is doing that is for the betterment of our country. Nothing.
 
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