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Mac9192

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The last thing I am is emotional. I am trying to show you how this so-called conspiracy is absurd on its face. Way too many moving parts to pull it off in as many placed as would have been needed and that is even crediting that people were thinking about doing what you are suggesting. You, Topps and Mac always fall back on how the only voice I am listening to is a Democratic media machine voice. I don't know how many times I have explained that I read everything, including Fox News although I guess I will have to move to the new conservative news sites not that Fox has fallen out of favor with so many Trumpites. Perhaps I am actually a free thinker who is capable of making up my mind after analyzing many different points of view.
You can say what you want, but the last place you get your news from is Fox. It’s evident by your views. You want Trump gone more than you want to see if there’s anything to his claims.
 

durhamgolfer

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You can say what you want, but the last place you get your news from is Fox. It’s evident by your views. You want Trump gone more than you want to see if there’s anything to his claims.
and you want Trump to win so badly that you have embraced every ridiculous conspiracy theory rather than thinking critically. Both sides are invested, each in his own way.
 

Mac9192

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and you want Trump to win so badly that you have embraced every ridiculous conspiracy theory rather than thinking critically. Both sides are invested, each in his own way.
I just want the truth. I know you find that hard to believe.
 

Jtre

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I just want the truth. I know you find that hard to believe.

Why do you think it so easy for Rudy, Sydney and the squad to hint around at, "the truth," when they're holding press conferences where they don't take questions or granting interviews to Newsmax, but they find it so damn hard to produce evidence (or even outright levy fraud accusations) once they step into courtrooms?

Also, I've seen a couple videos of Trump supporters suggesting boycotting the Georgia runoffs and even destroying the Republican party if Trump does not get four more years as president. Any thoughts?
 
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GhostOf301

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So I guess when the democrats were talking about how unsecure elections were in 2018, they were just spreading conspiracy theories. Ha. A free thinker, huh. That's the last thing I get when I read derm's posts.
 

Jtre

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So I guess when the democrats were talking about how unsecure elections were in 2018, they were just spreading conspiracy theories. Ha. A free thinker, huh. That's the last thing I get when I read derm's posts.

I actually posted some about that earlier in this thread, too. The letters that were written(one of which was about 15 years ago) and questions that were raised are not exactly the same as what has been recently reported.
 

Mac9192

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Why do you think it so easy for Rudy, Sydney and the squad to hint around at, "the truth," when they're holding press conferences where they don't take questions or granting interviews to Newsmax, but they find it so damn hard to produce evidence (or even outright levy fraud accusations) once they step into courtrooms?

Also, I've seen a couple videos of Trump supporters suggesting boycotting the Georgia runoffs and even destroying the Republican party if Trump does not get four more years as president. Any thoughts?
How much more do I have to say “we’ll just have to see?” You keep pounding your little hammer demanding answers and screaming that Trump and Co are lying.
What’s your hurry? Powell says she has the goods. Does she? I don’t know. Be patient.
 

GhostOf301

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Why do you think it so easy for Rudy, Sydney and the squad to hint around at, "the truth," when they're holding press conferences where they don't take questions or granting interviews to Newsmax, but they find it so damn hard to produce evidence (or even outright levy fraud accusations) once they step into courtrooms?

Also, I've seen a couple videos of Trump supporters suggesting boycotting the Georgia runoffs and even destroying the Republican party if Trump does not get four more years as president. Any thoughts?
I would love to see the Republican party emplode myself if the election stays the way it is. Not as a sore loser, but as someone who wants a better quality party to vote for.
 
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Jtre

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How much more do I have to say “we’ll just have to see?” You keep pounding your little hammer demanding answers and screaming that Trump and Co are lying.
What’s your hurry? Powell says she has the goods. Does she? I don’t know. Be patient.

I'm not pounding and screaming and demanding. In that post I just asked for your opinion.
 

durhamgolfer

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So I guess when the democrats were talking about how unsecure elections were in 2018, they were just spreading conspiracy theories. Ha. A free thinker, huh. That's the last thing I get when I read derm's posts.
And although the Republicans refused to look into what the intelligence community was telling them about the potential for Russian interference, the states at least took a look at their systems and took steps to make them secure.
 

GhostOf301

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As I said earlier. They need to put up or shut up. Releasing vague and unsubstantiated claims half things at a time doesn't prove anything. It also doesn't mean that they are lying. It just means that they are wasting time and either giving people false hope or setting themselves up to be the laughing stock of the world. Or both. Depends on how convincing their case is. Also, they can have a mountain of anecdotal or circumstantial evidence that brings legitimate concerns to the court and still not have the legal standings to overturn the election. If that is the case, their biggest hope would be to raise enough doubt that the SCOTUS throws out the election and gives it to state legislators to vote on. That would be highly unlikely. So what it looks like to me, is there was clear fvckery, but no legal legs to stand on and Joe is ghe next president.
 

GhostOf301

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And although the Republicans refused to look into what the intelligence community was telling them about the potential for Russian interference, the states at least took a look at their systems and took steps to make them secure.
Lord. You mean the states looked at those Russian Facebook memes and made their system more secure from them? Holy **** man. Russia? Who was the sole person responsible to protect our country from foreign interference of our election in 2016? That did nothing because they wanted to use it as a weapon against Trump’s transition into power. This has nothing to do with the voting systems. Nice try.
 

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Cannot believe that any Republicans would boycott the Georgia runoffs for spite because they know the consequences of that.Please link those videos
 

durhamgolfer

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Lord. You mean the states looked at those Russian Facebook memes and made their system more secure from them? Holy **** man. Russia? Who was the sole person responsible to protect our country from foreign interference of our election in 2016? That did nothing because they wanted to use it as a weapon against Trump’s transition into power. This has nothing to do with the voting systems. Nice try.
Those are two separate issues. Whatever Obama should or should not have done in 2016, the intelligence agencies were warning the federal government that our election system had a lot of vulnerabilities and was susceptible to hacking, some of which could lead to the targeted spread of disinformation. Congress, which in those first two years had a Republican majority, refused to look into it. But the states did. Which makes a lot of sense as elections are the province of the states and each state does things differently. As a result, by 2020, this was one of the safest elections. Members of the Trump administration have said that as have some very proud Secretaries of the various states.
 

GhostOf301

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Safest by what standards, foreign interference? Because if you are claiming that this year's election was safe, that's laughable.
 

durhamgolfer

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How much more do I have to say “we’ll just have to see?” You keep pounding your little hammer demanding answers and screaming that Trump and Co are lying.
What’s your hurry? Powell says she has the goods. Does she? I don’t know. Be patient.
I guess my issue with you is that you see the possibility that this Germany server rumor could have actually happened. But, either way, the longer this goes on the more Trump casts doubt on the validity of Biden's win and that is a huge problem for democracy. You keep harping on Florida in Bush/Gore but there was a real issue there and a very tiny margin of votes. Still, when Gore conceded, he conceded and went into the shadows. He didn't have a teen age melt down like our beloved President. He respected the system and the process. Neither Trump nor any in his inner circle do and that is a huge issue.
 
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Shatterthesky22

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I would love to see the Republican party emplode myself if the election stays the way it is. Not as a sore loser, but as someone who wants a better quality party to vote for.
I mean yeah. Would be great if the Republicans imploded and the Democrats finally exploded into multiple parties. As it stands one of the reasons it's hard for Dems to get things done is because of the division within the party.
 
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topps coach

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Oh, I don’t know. The millions of mail in ballots without signature matching and the unsolicitated ballots in some states. The 11th hour changing of laws to allow previously rejected ballots. What could go wrong there?
She is too stupid to see that as long as her socialist hope for the country has a chance to be implemented
 

durhamgolfer

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She is too stupid to see that as long as her socialist hope for the country has a chance to be implemented
did you seriously just call me stupid? And then claim that I have "socialist hopes?" I put up with all the brain washing nonsense that you guys throw at me in pretty much every one of your posts but calling someone stupid should be out of bounds. You also might want to learn what socialism actually is before you claim that I am one. You could not be further from the truth.
 
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durhamgolfer

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Oh, I don’t know. The millions of mail in ballots without signature matching and the unsolicitated ballots in some states. The 11th hour changing of laws to allow previously rejected ballots. What could go wrong there?
If any of that had happened. . .
 

Jtre

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Cannot believe that any Republicans would boycott the Georgia runoffs for spite because they know the consequences of that.Please link those videos


If Newsweek is one of the fake news sites, ignore the text and go straight to the video from Georgia and the screenshots from Parler.

You can also ask @Mac9192 about them because I'm sure they're posted on sites like 4chan.
 

Mac9192

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@Jtre keeps reaching, and @durhamgolfer is even more out there than he is. Whining because the allegations haven’t been proven yet, or crying because this is still up in the air. Gore holding it up for 30 some days in 2000 was acceptable, yet we aren’t at 3 weeks this election, and Trump is acting like a child. Hahaha.
You libs are more worried about getting Trump out of office than “possibly” giving this just a little more time.
I’m sure you would be asking Biden to concede if he was the one behind (cough cough).
 

durhamgolfer

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Lord. You mean the states looked at those Russian Facebook memes and made their system more secure from them? Holy **** man. Russia? Who was the sole person responsible to protect our country from foreign interference of our election in 2016? That did nothing because they wanted to use it as a weapon against Trump’s transition into power. This has nothing to do with the voting systems. Nice try.
@Jtre keeps reaching, and @durhamgolfer is even more out there than he is. Whining because the allegations haven’t been proven yet, or crying because this is still up in the air. Gore holding it up for 30 some days in 2000 was acceptable, yet we aren’t at 3 weeks this election, and Trump is acting like a child. Hahaha.
You libs are more worried about getting Trump out of office than “possibly” giving this just a little more time.
I’m sure you would be asking Biden to concede if he was the one behind (cough cough).
you got one thing right. This guy is such a threat to democracy that he can’t go to soon
 

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did you seriously just call me stupid? And then claim that I have "socialist hopes?" I put up with all the brain washing nonsense that you guys throw at me in pretty much every one of your posts but calling someone stupid should be out of bounds. You also might want to learn what socialism actually is before you claim that I am one. You could not be further from the truth.
You are for government control of healthcare which represents between 17 to 18.5 percent of the economy dependent upon which source you look at.You are also for ending the use of fossil fuels which is between 3.5 to 4 percent of our economy.So you want to destroy 20 percent of economy without taking account of what that will do to the rest of economy.Socialism is government taking over private industry so I know what Socialism is.Whatyou liberals do not know or understand that throughout history is that innovation is dependent upon motivated talented people with an intense desire to succeed.Your plans and hopes will take that away.Why would anyone work hard if they are not going to be rewarded.That is why you are stupid
 
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Watching a special on Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple. He was talking about the fascist government and comparing it to Hitler and the Nazis. Said the government had bad intentions for African Americans. It was 1978. I swear I have heard lines like this recently. Maybe not
 

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You are for government control of healthcare which represents between 17 to 18.5 percent of the economy dependent upon which source you look at.You are also for ending the use of fossil fuels which is between 3.5 to 4 percent of our economy.So you want to destroy 20 percent of economy without taking account of what that will do to the rest of economy.Socialism is government taking over private industry so I know what Socialism is.Whatyou liberals do not know or understand that throughout history is that innovation is dependent upon motivated talented people with an intense desire to succeed.Your plans and hopes will take that away.Why would anyone work hard if they are not going to be rewarded.That is why you are stupid
God, you are misguided.
 

durhamgolfer

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Watching a special on Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple. He was talking about the fascist government and comparing it to Hitler and the Nazis. Said the government had bad intentions for African Americans. It was 1978. I swear I have heard lines like this recently. Maybe not
Yup. Those of us who are students of history recognize how similar Trump is to other fascist dictators. Then once Trump started splitting up families and caging children, he moved closer to Hitler. Not there but on that trajectory
 

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Yup. Those of us who are students of history recognize how similar Trump is to other fascist dictators. Then once Trump started splitting up families and caging children, he moved closer to Hitler. Not there but on that trajectory
Again it was ur hero Obama who built the cages and had more deportations than Trump.The kids that were separated were ones that the authorities could not determine who the parents were
 

Jtre

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@Jtre keeps reaching, and @durhamgolfer is even more out there than he is. Whining because the allegations haven’t been proven yet, or crying because this is still up in the air. Gore holding it up for 30 some days in 2000 was acceptable, yet we aren’t at 3 weeks this election, and Trump is acting like a child. Hahaha.
You libs are more worried about getting Trump out of office than “possibly” giving this just a little more time.
I’m sure you would be asking Biden to concede if he was the one behind (cough cough).

What was I reaching about? I simply provided a link to a video that @topps coach asked to see.

You're right that I don't believe any of this **** because it sounds exactly like the videos that I watched over 10 years ago where a bunch of YouTube basement dwellers exposed the Illuminati by watching Jay-Z videos and reading Alan Moore comic books.

I get that you're all in on this neverending story of twists and turns. It's cool because some people need that in their lives.

QAnon is able to exist because there is a large amount of unhappy people in this world who spend too much time on the internet and need a sense of community and belonging. QAnon gives that to them, just like the Trump community and all that goes into supporting does for you. Just look at the phrasing you use when you talk about one of the conspiracy theories.

"I'm hearing..."

That's how you always start it but you're not hearing anything. You're not some connected Washington insider. You're a guy on a Duke board talking politics waiting for basketball season to start. But you've gotten so wrapped up in this extreme right/Trump obsessed online community that they make you feel like you're connected.

People can support whoever the like politically. But please don't allow your unwavering belief about some of this stuff his circus sideshow is selling you to go too deep into rabbit holes and lose your mind.
 

GhostOf301

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Trump campaign seems to be distancing itself from Sydney Powell. That doesn't mean that she is full of ****. It means that they don't want to be held accountable for her accusations. Seems like they would want to stand behind her if it helps their cause.
 

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"QAnon is able to exist because there is a large amount of unhappy people in this world who spend too much time on the internet and need a sense of community and belonging. QAnon gives that to them, just like the Trump community and all that goes into supporting does for you. Just look at the phrasing you use when you talk about one of the conspiracy theories." Jtre

Wouldnt that also apply to Antifa verbatim? substitute Liberal for Trump, Antifa for QAnon and its one in the same
 

Mac9192

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What was I reaching about? I simply provided a link to a video that @topps coach asked to see.

You're right that I don't believe any of this **** because it sounds exactly like the videos that I watched over 10 years ago where a bunch of YouTube basement dwellers exposed the Illuminati by watching Jay-Z videos and reading Alan Moore comic books.

I get that you're all in on this neverending story of twists and turns. It's cool because some people need that in their lives.

QAnon is able to exist because there is a large amount of unhappy people in this world who spend too much time on the internet and need a sense of community and belonging. QAnon gives that to them, just like the Trump community and all that goes into supporting does for you. Just look at the phrasing you use when you talk about one of the conspiracy theories.

"I'm hearing..."

That's how you always start it but you're not hearing anything. You're not some connected Washington insider. You're a guy on a Duke board talking politics waiting for basketball season to start. But you've gotten so wrapped up in this extreme right/Trump obsessed online community that they make you feel like you're connected.

People can support whoever the like politically. But please don't allow your unwavering belief about some of this stuff his circus sideshow is selling you to go too deep into rabbit holes and lose your mind.
I’ve watched one q anon video. Known of them for years, and I’ve watched one. I’ve not said anything to be fact, unless you count me saying I think politicians and the media are corrupt, which I believe to be a fact. I don’t have a problem with the Pro Trump supporters in Georgia, nor do I have a problem with them not wanting Trump to concede, or whatever. Did I miss something though, like them burning, rioting, or looting ****? Otherwise, they’re exercising a right they have. That’s where you’re reaching. Now, if they start doing any of that stuff I mentioned, or beating the hell out of innocent people, then you have a point.
I still think strongly that Powell has some damaging evidence. This part here is yes, my opinion.
I hope Trump is right, and Biden doesn’t win. I do fear for our country with us getting back to the status quo with a Biden/Harris White House.
 

Mac9192

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"QAnon is able to exist because there is a large amount of unhappy people in this world who spend too much time on the internet and need a sense of community and belonging. QAnon gives that to them, just like the Trump community and all that goes into supporting does for you. Just look at the phrasing you use when you talk about one of the conspiracy theories." Jtre

Wouldnt that also apply to Antifa verbatim? substitute Liberal for Trump, Antifa for QAnon and its one in the same
Antifa literally is dangerous. When q anon followers start doing the **** Antifa does, then we can say they’re the same.
 

Jtre

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"QAnon is able to exist because there is a large amount of unhappy people in this world who spend too much time on the internet and need a sense of community and belonging. QAnon gives that to them, just like the Trump community and all that goes into supporting does for you. Just look at the phrasing you use when you talk about one of the conspiracy theories." Jtre

Wouldnt that also apply to Antifa verbatim? substitute Liberal for Trump, Antifa for QAnon and its one in the same

Not exactly. ANTIFA, for as much as I despise the actions of most of them who rep it, is a kinda/sorta movement that originated (like most things, it got messed up and twisted immediately) with folks marching against hate groups (who actually exist). To be clear, this is what I have been able to learn in limited research.

QAnon stemmed out of a conspiracy theory that was based around high-level Democrats and celebrities running a child trafficking ring out of a pizza parlor with the intent of utilizing the kids' blood for some sort of ancient sacrifice. I've read that the reason George Soros is such a target of them is because of the whole "Blood Libel," similarities. To be clear, this is what I have been able to learn about QAnon in limited research.

If I'm wrong on either account I'll take the L.