Had they played "covid to perfection," they would not have taken such a bath in the congressional elections.
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They will think 2020 wads walk in the park after 2022 their will be are’s wave then.
I specifically looked for percentage gains. For example, Biden performed at over 3 percentage points higher than Clinton in Iowa, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas and 2.5 percent better in North Carolina.
To give an idea of truly how many more people voted in literally every state in the country, Biden's 2020 totals in Texas and North Carolina would have given him 2016 wins of more than 600,000 and 300,000 votes, respectively.
Some of the things you have mentioned go back to Trump spreading information that is simply not true. You and I talked about the Detroit thing, which was flat wrong, as being something he may have misinterpreted or not understood. As it turned out it was based on someone who actually submitted an affidavit in court with counties and voting from Minnesota and used that data for districts in Michigan.
Trump tweeted about the rejection rate in Georgia, saying it is normally 5 percent but this year it was sub 1 (I don't remember the exact sub 1 percent number). Checking Georgia's records for the last three elections the percentages are all sub 1 and roughly the same. As opposed to his Detroit tweets, no one seems to know where the hell he got the Georgia data from.
The stuff about stopping counting and waking up with Biden leading has been exaggerated and, in some cases, straight fabricated. All one has to do to understand what happened in states that Biden turned around is look at the trajectory and occurrence in three states, that really no one talks about: Virginia, Ohio and Kentucky. If it is possible (and I'm not sure it is, but I'm going off memory of the surprising numbers at the time), find a site that shows the head to head race as ballots were being counted.
Ohio and Kentucky allowed for early counting of mail-in and early in-person ballots (they counted in the order things were received, essentially) and Biden had sizable leads in both (massive actually). As day of, in-person ballots got counted, Biden's lead shrunk and Trump won comfortably.
In Virginia, nothing got counted until day of, in-person ballots were calculated and counties/districts reported results all at once. Trump, a massive underdog in the state, led until late Tuesday night. Of course, late Tuesday night was still only representing 60-65 percent of the state vote. Fairfax county, largest in the state and historically blue, reported after all mail-in and early were calculated and the state immediately swung for Biden. A short time later, the state was projected as a comfortable Biden win.
Things like this literally happened all over the country, but no one talks about it because Donald Trump doesn't tweet about them.
My theory about the passion both for and against Trump was a nationwide trend. Look all over the country. Places like Texas had more people vote early than have ever voted there in the history of this country. The turnout around the country was massive and, as I mentioned yesterday, it was projected. Nate Silver at Tivethirtyeight, to cite just one expert, projected 145 million plus turnout.
I know it seems easy because I'm a liberal and the guy I voted for won, but looking at some of this stuff logically goes a long way.
It gets commonly thrown about that Trump's 2016 win was shocking but it shouldn't have been. I said many times in the lead up, she was the only candidate he could beat and practically any other Republican would have beaten her, as well.
Too many liberals simply failed to recognize certain qualities about her and this country, which is what led to their reaction of shock. I have always said, while I fully believe there was Russian interference (not direct collusion with Trump) in the election in terms of the spread of mis and disinformation, the truth is Trump didn't need it.
Data is data and all the anomolies cannot be explained just by saying it was sheer numbers because those numbers were not ubiquitous, they occurred in very specific places at specific times - thats the oddity. They are outliers in every data model that I've seen....normalized for this election turnout
You mentioned specific places and times, but I'm not sure I follow you. Can you explain?
I have made several attempts to explain the massive turnout gains from 2016 to 2020 that occurred all over the nation that don't include fraud and rigging. This is not just because it was turnout falls in line with projections but also because I can't wrap my mind around a nationwide fix that would literally involve fixing every state. Seriously, if Joe Biden can gain over 300,000 more votes from 2016 in Tennessee you don't think he can pick up 300,000 in Wisconsin, a state that has gone blue every election but 2016 since Reagan won in 1984?
That's how significant the turnout increase was in 2020. Was every state rigged so that Biden would lose by closer margins in states he had no chance to win?
Do you have a theory as to why turnout was significantly higher across the country?
Hey i was just checking the board to see if Covid was still about to disappear as our resident virologist/epidemiologist/social commentary expert told me it would.
11/18/20 Reuter poll say 19 percent of Democrats and thirty percent of independent voter think election were rigged.Know a higher percentage of Republicans think that .With that many people thinking Biden stole the election it makes it more likely that 2022 will see massive Republican gains
I've noticed the "virus will be gone after the election" crowd has certainly thinned. I also noticed two months ago the "Europe handled it so much better" crowd disappeared.
Turns out it's a virus and none of us keyboard warriors know what the hell we're talking about.
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Coach K just happens to be a position to really see the meaning of BLM and used his platform to deliver a message that, judging from his voice in the video, was pretty near and dear to his heart.
A few minutes ago I stopped on Hannity as I scrolled through channels. A replacement was hosting and he made the announcement of the big news about the public hearings about the 2020 election to be held in Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania. This was made to sound like a potential big break into investigations into the 2020 election.
I assumed this was (please forgive me) fake news, so I searched for information.
Four hours ago, this was posted:
Three hours ago, this was posted:
Two hours ago:
30 minutes ago:
To summarize, the Trump campaign posted an announcement four hours ago that was completely untrue, Fox reported it (apparently without checking the source) three hours and officials in two of three named states released statements pointing out no such hearings will take place. Despite that, a host of Fox's second highest viewed "news" show repeated the untrue claims despite fact-check already released by officials in the concerned states.
I assumed this was (please forgive me) fake news, so I searched for information.
Four hours ago, this was posted:
Three hours ago, this was posted:
Two hours ago:
30 minutes ago:
To summarize, the Trump campaign posted an announcement four hours ago that was completely untrue, Fox reported it (apparently without checking the source) three hours and officials in two of three named states released statements pointing out no such hearings will take place. Despite that, a host of Fox's second highest viewed "news" show repeated the untrue claims despite fact-check already released by officials in the concerned states.
No way. This poster is an expert on all matters....especially the virus. There is no way he was wrong about this.
Good article.
John Fetterman seems like he has a good future. He also seems like the type of politician who can appeal to voters across a lot of different demographics.
I actually first learned about him as an example from an implicit bias training.
After reading that article only a liberal thinks he he would appeal to different demographics
Happy Thanksgiving to all liberals, moderates,and conservatives!!! OFC
He's in favor of legalizing marijuana, which any true capitalist should be, as it has the potential to create a lot if financial opportunities for companies as well as for enterprising, hardworking folks.
He supports LGBTQ rights, which anybody who claims to be a supporter if small government should be, as it encourages the government to stay out of people's bedrooms, surgical procedures and social lives.
If you're a big 2A believer that probably makes you a strict constitutionalist, which means you would support separation of church and state. Since the only leg to stand on being against gay marital rights is one that belongs to a specific religion, you should probably be in favor of gay rights.
He supports raising the federal minimum wage, which is something that appeals to progressives and should appeal to the under-educated folks in our society.
Finally, he's a big, imposing white dude who kinda looks like a tough guy and he doesn't mind using profanity during interviews. That type of thing seems very important to Trump-Republicans.
Happy Thanksgiving, Hart. I hope you and yours have a great day and stay safe.
Lowering taxes should appeal to everyone, lower unemployment should appeal to both sides, raise wages for everyone, less danger around the world and no wars should appeal to both sides, better economy and trade should appeal to both sides, reducing sentences for non violent crimes should appeal to both sides, having NATO pay their fair share should appeal to both sides.....if only we could find someone who could help us with this......these types of things should be important to both sides, but apparently not. See...easy to play that game.
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Yep. We’ve had all that. A real shame politics gets in the way. All the good that’s been done is about to get undone.
Keep your brain cells? Do you even have any that work bruh? LolMannn I don’t wanna go slow (legalizing marijuana) legalize cocaine so I can go fast and keep my brain cells
Back at ya Hart. Hope you and yours stay safe throughout what is sure to be a wild finish to 2020
Yep. He’ll probably be back at 1600 Pennsylvania Ln every day.
The Establishment, again. Gonna get bad, again.
Excuse me. Pennsylvania Avenue. You really know how to dodge the point though. Totally avoid what’s being talked about, on purpose. Clever really. Happens to you a lot when you know there’s nothing you can say.
Were you your 5th grade dodgeball champ?
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I don't think President Obama will actually spend every day at the White House like you said, so I didn't know I had to address that.
If by establishment you mean professionals who actually know how to run a governmental operation, then, yes, I look forward to that.
You really think the politicians that are democrats do a good job, don’t you? You really believe the garbage the media says too, don’t you? I admire your loyalty. Totally naive, and based off lies, but what’s sad is you buy it.
The professional that involved us in endless wars,high taxes,energy dependence and loss of jobs to foreign countries.Yep exactly what we need
that would be the Republicans. We could move off oil dependency if we put more effort into clean energy. It would also lead to more jobs.
He had 8 years. More damage (costs alone would kill us) attempting to go the “clean energy” route. Obama was kicking the can down the road, towards the cliff, and then Hilary was going to kick it over the cliff.
Obama was only a smooth talker in public, but a puppet to The Establishment. A snake in the grass. You liberals are dangerous to our country.
This story largely missed the broadcast news media cycle because of Thanksgiving programming. However it exploded on internet. Wondered your thoughts (conservatives, moderates, liberals) on the president's comments: