Do you know how many people don’t follow those mandates? The staffs are scared to deal with them so they just look the other way.
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No. Never once have seen anyone wherever I’ve been that didn’t abide by it. Literally never. Do you have any data/stats to show otherwise?
Hahaha....kinda, but civil....plexiglass is another layer of protection that goes both ways...
How do all the mask stooges explain Texas? I remember some pretty silly stuff. Even calling their governor a Neanderthal and a reckless murderer. All while still praising a sexually abusive narcissist up in NY even after killing thousands of grandparents with his idiotic EO. But one has an R and the other has a D. No surprise.
Additional context.
In Texas, 11,881,680 people or 40% of the state has received at least one dose.
Overall, 9,377,315 people or 32% of Texas's population has been fully vaccinated
Sure. But the outrage was with that in mind. Also, that's not a high percentage of vaccinated people compared to a lot of other states.
Agreed....I'm interest to hear the theories on why the mortality and infections are down vs other states who are locked up still...that was the context. Sorry if that didnt come across.
You are far left, it’s okay, you bleed it in every one of your posts. You can’t deal with fact rather need to “will” your feelings to be the truth.
There is no point in trying to have a real discussion. You guys are entrenched in your right wing views ( and I am being kind in leaving it at that) and do nothing more than insult us and tell us we are incapable of doing anything other than following a so-called party line, which is simply a complaint that we don’t agree with you. So why bother trying to have a discussion.
Well, you have never actually tried to have a real conversation. You selectively respond to people's posts and ignore most things that don't suit your feelings. What's funny is that when you ask questions, you typically get answers. When you are asked a question you refuse to answer most times. So who is the one not having real conversations here? You quoted a post today and ignored the content by deflecting to Trump, who is not relevant today. So who is the one not having real conversations here? And I know full well you won't bother answering this, because you won't be able to. But what are some right wing views that I am entrenched in?
I am happy to answer. You are full of ****. I have answered many of your poorly researched texts by pointing out your errors. Your response has to been to insult me. You are honestly asking why I think you are right wing? Because all of your responses hew to the alternate facts Trumpian line.
I knew you couldn't answer. All I need is an example. With something of substance to back it up. Just one. Where are my right wing responses? What makes them right wing? I'd be happy (unlike you) to discuss my right wing posts if you can provide me with one.
Also, I found it annoying when conservatives constantly bitched about Obama after he was gone. It doesn't do anything to move forward as a society to constantly complain about the past without any solutions on how to move on from it. So I find it equally annoying when people like you, (Not far left(lol)) constantly obsess about Trump. He's gone, move on.
But what's funny is I have spent the past four years talking about policies and how I side more with the majority of Trump’s policies than I did the progressive left. I was fully able to do that without having unwavering support for Trump the person. Where is the left to defend the current administration's policies? Why are we still obsessing about Trump? What has Biden done to improve our country? Are we more united now that the evil orange man is gone?
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You seriously don’t think you’re responses are right wing. Your comments on abortion and trans rights are more than enough examples. I say I am not far left, which I am not, and you tell me I am an idiot. As for the rest, I am not bothering. Not because I don’t have answers but because it isn’t worth it. I have given you examples and you have dismissed them. And give me a break about being united. You on the right got us into this mess. You can’t even be civil on a message board.
What have I said about abortion that is right wing? You're giving examples without substantive context. I have never said that I was anti abortion, have I? All I said was that you have a trashy take on it. You said 'imagine being a woman and being forced to carry a fetus for 9 months'. That’s why her body her choice is ********. I consider people who have abortions or support other people having abortions as a form of birth control, trashy. Sorry. I am not a religious person, but the disregard for human life and the privilege to bear it is disgusting. I understand that it's not always cut and dry and that people are left with a tough and heartbreaking decision for a variety of reasons and I can't with a good heart call those people killers. I would hate to be in that position and I would hate anyone close to me to be there too. But in the cases where women have one after the other or they do it because they just don't want to be forced to carry a crummy ole fetus around for 9 months are killers. I am not necessarily pro-choice as that's a loaded stance. But I also don't side with the far right on it.
Trans rights? Where have I commented on trans rights? WTH.
I didn't call you an idiot. I laughed at your claim that you were not far left "by any means". If you're not, than you're putting on a hell of a show here.
As for the rest, you're not bothering because it's all smoke and mirrors with you libs. You have nothing to say because you vote with your feelings and as long as the guy in charge has empathy and doesn't tweet mean things, policy be damned. Who doesn't want real conversation again? You do you, man. But don't make hypocritical claims of other people refusing to have conversations when you are one of the biggest bob and weaver when it comes to conversation ITT.
"You on the right got us into this mess". Lol. So it is me that crams falsehoods and all out lies about racism and bigotry? It is me that uses the small minority of cases and turns it into divisive propaganda? It is me that calls half the country, nazis, white supremacists, and other ridiculous names to get each side to hate the other? I am the one that makes everything from math tests to voting, about race? I am the one that cultivates victimhood by convincing every minority possible that they are victims before they're even born? Yeah, as above, this is more smoke and mirrors from the left.
Grow some skin. If I am rude in a couple of posts, that doesn't mean that I can't even be civil. You may have a different way of being rude. Such as deliberately taking people's posts out of context, misquoting people to make them say something completely different from their intentions or making uncalled for accusations about their morals and then dodging their response. I find that rude too, but my feelings aren't hurt.
Trans rights? Where have I commented on trans rights? WTH.
I didn't call you an idiot. I laughed at your claim that you were not far left "by any means". If you're not, than you're putting on a hell of a show here.
As for the rest, you're not bothering because it's all smoke and mirrors with you libs. You have nothing to say because you vote with your feelings and as long as the guy in charge has empathy and doesn't tweet mean things, policy be damned. Who doesn't want real conversation again? You do you, man. But don't make hypocritical claims of other people refusing to have conversations when you are one of the biggest bob and weaver when it comes to conversation ITT.
"You on the right got us into this mess". Lol. So it is me that crams falsehoods and all out lies about racism and bigotry? It is me that uses the small minority of cases and turns it into divisive propaganda? It is me that calls half the country, nazis, white supremacists, and other ridiculous names to get each side to hate the other? I am the one that makes everything from math tests to voting, about race? I am the one that cultivates victimhood by convincing every minority possible that they are victims before they're even born? Yeah, as above, this is more smoke and mirrors from the left.
Grow some skin. If I am rude in a couple of posts, that doesn't mean that I can't even be civil. You may have a different way of being rude. Such as deliberately taking people's posts out of context, misquoting people to make them say something completely different from their intentions or making uncalled for accusations about their morals and then dodging their response. I find that rude too, but my feelings aren't hurt.
You just answered your own question and made my point. This diatribe has laid out the conservative position nicely. Thank you
You are useless. Common sense doesn't exist with you clowns. You calling that a diatribe shows that you either didn't bother to read it or you're even further left than I thought possible. You are a coward and a hypocrite.
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Fauci being Fauci-
“Well, you know, George, I’m obviously careful because I mean I’m a physician and a health care provider. I am now much more comfortable in people seeing me indoors without a mask,” Fauci said, going on to say that he had initially kept the mask on — despite being fully vaccinated – in order to set a visual example.
“I mean, before the CDC made the recommendation change, I didn’t want to look like I was giving mixed signals but being a fully vaccinated person, the chances of my getting infected in an indoor setting is extremely low and that’s the reason why in indoor settings now I feel comfortable about not wearing a mask because I’m fully vaccinated,” Fauci concluded.
So you did it as a “visual example.” Meaning, you lied. You knew damn well vaccinated people aren’t getting and spreading this disease, yet you kept telling everyone the opposite. He went in front of congress, in front of the american people day after day and knowingly lied. He’s supposed to be a physician, a doctor, someone people can trust. CONARTIST.
“Well, you know, George, I’m obviously careful because I mean I’m a physician and a health care provider. I am now much more comfortable in people seeing me indoors without a mask,” Fauci said, going on to say that he had initially kept the mask on — despite being fully vaccinated – in order to set a visual example.
“I mean, before the CDC made the recommendation change, I didn’t want to look like I was giving mixed signals but being a fully vaccinated person, the chances of my getting infected in an indoor setting is extremely low and that’s the reason why in indoor settings now I feel comfortable about not wearing a mask because I’m fully vaccinated,” Fauci concluded.
So you did it as a “visual example.” Meaning, you lied. You knew damn well vaccinated people aren’t getting and spreading this disease, yet you kept telling everyone the opposite. He went in front of congress, in front of the american people day after day and knowingly lied. He’s supposed to be a physician, a doctor, someone people can trust. CONARTIST.
just because Texas doesn't have a mask mandate, there are plenty of Texans going about their day to day wearing masks when the feel the need and avoiding some situations that would be deemed risky
See how dumb you look? Saying I’m right wing? I’ve been calling out both parties yet you accuse me of being a righty, all because you have nothing else to go on. Typical subjective views; no facts, just how you handle your clinical statements too. Bravo, Susan. Bravo.
Far more people not wearing masks in Texas than actually are. The problem with the overarching idea here is that non-PPE in a civilian setting is utterly useless in reduction of transmission of most diseases.
No offense, but this is such a weak post. Masks are useless. I don’t know why you try to spin it.
If you say so, but I've never said masks are the end all be all....as they aren't 100%
But you did spin the post about Texas dropping the mask mandate by saying there’s plenty of people there still wearing a mask. That’s a comment that you’re only trying to make to show masks may be playing a part in Texas’s success.
thats not spin, that is a fact that even w/o a mandate many Texans still choose to attempt to protect themselves and their families to the best of their abilities by wearing masks in some situations....and I do believe mask use helps, you dont, and thats fine...
What defines a good choice though? Wearing a mask? If that’s a good choice, I’d hate to see a bad choice.
Believing based on feeling versus no definitive science is an interesting way to go.
So people are wearing masks even though the overlords don't force them too? The same people who claimed it was reckless and would lead to the slaughtering of thousands of Texans to lift the mask mandates are now claiming that people are wearing their masks despite it not being mandated. Almost like the mandates were BS to begin with.
Here's what should have been done.
'There is no substantive proof that cloth masks are a safe tool to prevent the spread of covid. But we believe that it is better to wear one than to not. We recommend the use of masks when you are unable to keep a safe distance. If you choose not to wear a mask, please be responsible and allow for people around you to keep a safe distance. If you see someone who is not wearing a mask and it makes you uncomfortable, avoid contact with that person and keep your distance.'
Here's what happened.
'Masks are mandatory inside or out. If you don’t wear a mask you should be confronted by Karens and Darens and mask shamed for being a grandma killer. I have 100 subjective articles to show you where they talk about science without actually providing any that shows data from selective and hypothetical cases proving that masks work without actually providing proof."
'There is no substantive proof that cloth masks are a safe tool to prevent the spread of covid. But we believe that it is better to wear one than to not. We recommend the use of masks when you are unable to keep a safe distance. If you choose not to wear a mask, please be responsible and allow for people around you to keep a safe distance. If you see someone who is not wearing a mask and it makes you uncomfortable, avoid contact with that person and keep your distance.'
Here's what happened.
'Masks are mandatory inside or out. If you don’t wear a mask you should be confronted by Karens and Darens and mask shamed for being a grandma killer. I have 100 subjective articles to show you where they talk about science without actually providing any that shows data from selective and hypothetical cases proving that masks work without actually providing proof."
This is what i was saying(or attempting to) the other day. Even if you want to ignore the data and want to believe masks are effective, that’s fine. The problem is and will always be, you’ve got way less than 1% of people that are wearing the right masks, correctly, for the right amount of time. Everything else is like trying to keep insects out of your yard by putting up a chain link fence. And worse yet, you’re arguably doing more harm to yourself by continuing to put these filthy cloths over your face that are filled with bacteria. And by filthy, i mean, you keep it in your glove compartment, you use it more than once without cleaning it, you leave it out collecting dust or pollen these days, you’re touching it and your face with your hands, etc.
Btw 40% of Americans have been fully vaxed, 60% are halfway home. Time to move on from this and enjoy life again.
Hoping duke follows the science and allows Cameron to be full in November.
I am excited to see the left finally come out in support of the pipeline...the Russian one
Again my three Doctors have said that masks are useless but according to the medical experts on this board know that I should fire them
Again with almost all of what you say but still do not understand why a vaccination for a disease that has a ninety nine plus survival rate.As many of us have said Covid would end soon after the libs took power
I have absolutely no idea. I’m not a doctor, so would never tell anyone what to inject into themselves. I spoke to my doctor, he said it’s safe, and i just went ahead and did it. And while I’m not sure if i had covid or not prior to getting vaxed, i have no idea why you need to get vaxed if you already had it. Some argue the antibodies Only last 8mo, but I’d like to see more data on how true/untrue that is.
To your point, CDC survivability rates if infected by Covid:
Ages:
0-19: 99.997%
20-49: 99.98%
50-69: 99.5%
70+: 94.6%
How soon? Biden has been in power for several months now and while slowing there are still new cases of covid everyday. At least that is what the press is saying. In fact, about three weeks after the inauguration, the press reported cases were on the rise, somehting Mac gleefully pointed out on this board. So far, Texas is the only state getting airtime for the reduction in new cases. Did the Dem-loving liberal media suddenly become enamored with the Republican governor?