The next debate could make/break

mneilmont

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Time is running out for Trump to attract support. Hillary seems to have the ground team to go forth if The Donald doesn't approach the performance of his partner. The deck is certainly stacked against him with the bias shown by the press. That should not be a surprise to most of us who follow politics, but I doubt anyone was prepared for the degree in which they obviously support Hillary over Trump.

I would like to offer Donald some advice from two times in life that have stayed with me. First, in the police academy, it was stressed on us to not take any violation personally. The violation is of the laws of the state and not me personally. Every violation is not life or death. It is simply the job and don't get too excited and put people or property into jeopardy to catch the culprit. Namecalling is not against you personally, but at the job you are doing.

The next was in a Business English class at WVU. The instructor emphasized that communication in business should be short and to the point, and the pronoun you is more important than is I. Address the needs of "you". Potential clients are not interested in what the "I" gains from the transaction. Each paragraph should begin with "You" if possible to show value placed on the client. "I" should never be the subject in a sentence. It is of no importance to the situation.

Request to Trump for next debate, therefore, is to look into the camera and begin each paragraph with "You" and explain what they will receive from the policies being presented. Don't fall into the rabbit chase over namecalling. Names are not directed at The Donald, but at the candidate for the position being sought. Don't take it personally. The only time "I " is used is in closing salutation of I thank you for your support.
 

bamaEER

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Time is running out for Trump to attract support. Hillary seems to have the ground team to go forth if The Donald doesn't approach the performance of his partner. The deck is certainly stacked against him with the bias shown by the press. That should not be a surprise to most of us who follow politics, but I doubt anyone was prepared for the degree in which they obviously support Hillary over Trump.

I would like to offer Donald some advice from two times in life that have stayed with me. First, in the police academy, it was stressed on us to not take any violation personally. The violation is of the laws of the state and not me personally. Every violation is not life or death. It is simply the job and don't get too excited and put people or property into jeopardy to catch the culprit. Namecalling is not against you personally, but at the job you are doing.

The next was in a Business English class at WVU. The instructor emphasized that communication in business should be short and to the point, and the pronoun you is more important than is I. Address the needs of "you". Potential clients are not interested in what the "I" gains from the transaction. Each paragraph should begin with "You" if possible to show value placed on the client. "I" should never be the subject in a sentence. It is of no importance to the situation.

Request to Trump for next debate, therefore, is to look into the camera and begin each paragraph with "You" and explain what they will receive from the policies being presented. Don't fall into the rabbit chase over namecalling. Names are not directed at The Donald, but at the candidate for the position being sought. Don't take it personally. The only time "I " is used is in closing salutation of I thank you for your support.
Nice advice but, that would be way out of character for him. Requires a level of humility that he's never expressed that I've ever seen from him. His schtick is all about 'I'.
 

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The next was in a Business English class at WVU. The instructor emphasized that communication in business should be short and to the point, and the pronoun you is more important than is I. Address the needs of "you". Potential clients are not interested in what the "I" gains from the transaction. Each paragraph should begin with "You" if possible to show value placed on the client. "I" should never be the subject in a sentence. It is of no importance to the situation.

Request to Trump for next debate, therefore, is to look into the camera and begin each paragraph with "You" and explain what they will receive from the policies being presented. Don't fall into the rabbit chase over namecalling. Names are not directed at The Donald, but at the candidate for the position being sought. Don't take it personally. The only time "I " is used is in closing salutation of I thank you for your support.
Hard to teach a 70 yr old "billionaire" new tricks.
 

Keyser76

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Who decides because of a debate? They don't even debate anything. The platforms change? If not I'll vote for the platform as to what a party wants to do and wants to push.
 

BombadEER

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Time is running out for Trump to attract support. Hillary seems to have the ground team to go forth if The Donald doesn't approach the performance of his partner. The deck is certainly stacked against him with the bias shown by the press. That should not be a surprise to most of us who follow politics, but I doubt anyone was prepared for the degree in which they obviously support Hillary over Trump.

I would like to offer Donald some advice from two times in life that have stayed with me. First, in the police academy, it was stressed on us to not take any violation personally. The violation is of the laws of the state and not me personally. Every violation is not life or death. It is simply the job and don't get too excited and put people or property into jeopardy to catch the culprit. Namecalling is not against you personally, but at the job you are doing.

The next was in a Business English class at WVU. The instructor emphasized that communication in business should be short and to the point, and the pronoun you is more important than is I. Address the needs of "you". Potential clients are not interested in what the "I" gains from the transaction. Each paragraph should begin with "You" if possible to show value placed on the client. "I" should never be the subject in a sentence. It is of no importance to the situation.

Request to Trump for next debate, therefore, is to look into the camera and begin each paragraph with "You" and explain what they will receive from the policies being presented. Don't fall into the rabbit chase over namecalling. Names are not directed at The Donald, but at the candidate for the position being sought. Don't take it personally. The only time "I " is used is in closing salutation of I thank you for your support.
Why should a debate even matter. Hillary has been lying in these debates for 30 years and is a polished politician. That's exactly what we don't need is more of the last 8 years of the corrupt same ole. Trump is not a politician but a business man. Our country needs business and less regulations for our business. I couldn't care less what Hillary says, she said it for 30 years and it still hasn't worked. Time for a change.
 

mneilmont

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Hard to teach a 70 yr old "billionaire" new tricks.
I think you are going to be wrong on this one. Most realize he lost the last one. He does not like to lose. He will make the minor adjustment required to win. He may cause the whole damned thing to crash when the moderators attempt to stack the deck this time.

Holt early in the first debate bulled Trump back into answering the question asked. Thereafter, Trump did not give a political answer, give a canned answer without regard to the question, for nearly the rest of the time. Hillary was never restrained in any remarks she wanted to say. I bet Trump gets his talking points in this time on Benghazi and emails while he is also giving some details of what he wants to do for the country.
 

mneilmont

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Who decides because of a debate? They don't even debate anything. The platforms change? If not I'll vote for the platform as to what a party wants to do and wants to push.
But you see that the media awarded Hillary the win in the last debate for interrupting near everything Trump or Mod said. Like it or not for the reason, but she did get a bump for the win. I agree with you that the name calling and associated vernacular should be discredited. Grade them only on the details of the policy they are offering. We should not award the presidency to the captain of the debate team.
 

mneilmont

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Nice advice but, that would be way out of character for him. Requires a level of humility that he's never expressed that I've ever seen from him. His schtick is all about 'I'.
But he likes to win. He will be coached to drop the I and address the you. May even offer some of the audience the opportunity to tell him what are the needs of the country.
 

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It's over and it has been for a long time. Even Trump going sane now (which is unlikely anyway) isn't going to be enough. His debate performance isn't going to matter.

It's a national election. To win a national election you have to appeal to a broad cross section of people, especially as the country becomes more diverse. The GOP has hit 48% only once in the last six POTUS elections and Trump isn't going to do it either or even come close.

On the plus side for the Republicans I suspect this election is going to be their rock bottom in terms POTUS elections. Win or not in the future, after this election there's no place to go but up.
 

Mntneer

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It's over and it has been for a long time. Even Trump going sane now (which is unlikely anyway) isn't going to be enough. His debate performance isn't going to matter.

It's a national election. To win a national election you have to appeal to a broad cross section of people, especially as the country becomes more diverse. The GOP has hit 48% only once in the last six POTUS elections and Trump isn't going to do it either or even come close.

On the plus side for the Republicans I suspect this election is going to be their rock bottom in terms POTUS elections. Win or not in the future, after this election there's no place to go but up.

It still boils down to personality. If he shows it in the next two debates, and Hillary doesn't. Then he wins.
 

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It still boils down to personality. If he shows it in the next two debates, and Hillary doesn't. Then he wins.
That's silly. OP is right, this thing has been over for a while and Hillary has a terrible personality.
 

bamaEER

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That's silly. OP is right, this thing has been over for a while and Hillary has a terrible personality.
Plus Donald could come out smiling and kiss a room full of babies and it wouldn't matter. Everyone knows who he is at this point.
 
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Time is running out for Trump to attract support. Hillary seems to have the ground team to go forth if The Donald doesn't approach the performance of his partner. The deck is certainly stacked against him with the bias shown by the press. That should not be a surprise to most of us who follow politics, but I doubt anyone was prepared for the degree in which they obviously support Hillary over Trump.

I would like to offer Donald some advice from two times in life that have stayed with me. First, in the police academy, it was stressed on us to not take any violation personally. The violation is of the laws of the state and not me personally. Every violation is not life or death. It is simply the job and don't get too excited and put people or property into jeopardy to catch the culprit. Namecalling is not against you personally, but at the job you are doing.

The next was in a Business English class at WVU. The instructor emphasized that communication in business should be short and to the point, and the pronoun you is more important than is I. Address the needs of "you". Potential clients are not interested in what the "I" gains from the transaction. Each paragraph should begin with "You" if possible to show value placed on the client. "I" should never be the subject in a sentence. It is of no importance to the situation.

Request to Trump for next debate, therefore, is to look into the camera and begin each paragraph with "You" and explain what they will receive from the policies being presented. Don't fall into the rabbit chase over namecalling. Names are not directed at The Donald, but at the candidate for the position being sought. Don't take it personally. The only time "I " is used is in closing salutation of I thank you for your support.
I always find it entertaining to see wingnut morons such as yourself whine bout liberal media bias yet on the other hand tout Fox News and their #1 ratings. You jackasses always want it both ways. Trump is already toast. The sad thing is that there are millions of idiots in this country who actually hope he wins. I guess that is an indictment of our educational system. Or parenting. Nobody ever accuse racists of being too bright though.
 

mneilmont

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Amazing. The same people have been predicting his loss from day. When do you save face and state the fact that you have no idea in hell what is going to happen tomorrow, but that it is simply a liberal desire.
 

Mntneer

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That's silly. OP is right, this thing has been over for a while and Hillary has a terrible personality.

It's silly, but it's been the nature of the Presidential election since Nixon/Kennedy.

Hillary has a terrible personality, but Donald's is sometimes much worse. Hence the closeness of this race.
 
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It's silly, but it's been the nature of the Presidential election since Nixon/Kennedy.

Hillary has a terrible personality, but Donald's is sometimes much worse. Hence the closeness of this race.
This race isn't close. 5% lead for Hillary. She'll win by at least 7. probably get 10 million more votes and will probably win 350 electoral votes. If it wasn;'t for the idiot racists here in the South, Trump wouldn't get more than 100 electoral votes.
 

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It's silly, but it's been the nature of the Presidential election since Nixon/Kennedy.

Hillary has a terrible personality, but Donald's is sometimes much worse. Hence the closeness of this race.
It's not close. Media is just trying to sell ads. And personality had nothing to do with it.
 

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Why should a debate even matter. Hillary has been lying in these debates for 30 years and is a polished politician. That's exactly what we don't need is more of the last 8 years of the corrupt same ole. Trump is not a politician but a business man. Our country needs business and less regulations for our business. I couldn't care less what Hillary says, she said it for 30 years and it still hasn't worked. Time for a change.
More hope and TRUE change. ..The writing was on the wall when Obla-me said"I will FUNDAMENTALLY change America "... And man,has he "tried ":middlefinger::boxing:[poop]
 

Mntneer

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It's not close. Media is just trying to sell ads. And personality had nothing to do with it.

Personality has everything to do with it. Resumes do not.

And the race is still close compared to where it should be with anyone else running against Trump.
 
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Personality has everything to do with it. Resumes do not.

And the race is still close compared to where it should be with anyone else running against Trump.
Anyone else isn't running against him (except for the two also rans). Hillary is. And as high as her unfavorables are, she's still cleaning Trump's clock. Trump is the worst candidate by a major party in history. He is an embarrassment to our country. The fact that the GOP nominated him is an indictment of the stupidity of the GOP.
 

Mntneer

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Anyone else isn't running against him (except for the two also rans). Hillary is. And as high as her unfavorables are, she's still cleaning Trump's clock. Trump is the worst candidate by a major party in history. He is an embarrassment to our country. The fact that the GOP nominated him is an indictment of the stupidity of the GOP.

Imagine if Obama were running against Trump. It would be 10-20 point margins. As bad as Hillary's personality (and unfavorables) is, Trump's is worse.
 
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Imagine if Obama were running against Trump. It would be 10-20 point margins. As bad as Hillary's personality (and unfavorables) is, Trump's is worse.
Exactly. I saw a poll somewhere that if Pence was running against HC, she would only be up by 1 point. If Kaine was running against Trump, Kaine would be up by 15 points. Telling.
 

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Exactly. I saw a poll somewhere that if Pence was running against HC, she would only be up by 1 point. If Kaine was running against Trump, Kaine would be up by 15 points. Telling.

The GOP needs a moderate, charismatic individual to run for the WH. Someone who can appeal to minorities, temper the radicals and not come across as smug, crazy, cranky, etc.

As qualified as McCain and Romney were, they were the cranky old guy and the stuffy rich white guy. With Trump they've got bat **** crazy.
 

mneilmont

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It's not close. Media is just trying to sell ads. And personality had nothing to do with it.
Who is selling those popular ads to attract the overflowing crowds to come out and greet Trump? Hillary has to hire people to attend the small crowds that are coming out to listen to her message.
 
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I call ********.
"In a hypothetical matchup between Trump and Clinton's running mate, Tim Kaine, the numbers for Democrats are even stronger. Kaine would win, 55% to Trump's 39%. Were Mike Pence at the top of the GOP ticket, Clinton would still win, but only by one point, 47% to 46%. The poll was take before Tuesday night's vice presidential debate."
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/clinton_opens_10_point_lead_over_trump_in_latest_national_poll
 

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"In a hypothetical matchup between Trump and Clinton's running mate, Tim Kaine, the numbers for Democrats are even stronger. Kaine would win, 55% to Trump's 39%. Were Mike Pence at the top of the GOP ticket, Clinton would still win, but only by one point, 47% to 46%. The poll was take before Tuesday night's vice presidential debate."
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...point_lead_over_trump_in_latest_national_poll
I meant, it's easy to say that when those aren't your choices. Kaine and Pence haven't seen near the scrutiny they would as nominees. It's ********.
 
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The GOP needs a moderate, charismatic individual to run for the WH. Someone who can appeal to minorities, temper the radicals and not come across as smug, crazy, cranky, etc.

As qualified as McCain and Romney were, they were the cranky old guy and the stuffy rich white guy. With Trump they've got bat **** crazy.
Good luck in getting this rational hypothetical person through the GOP primary (ie acceptable to the religious right and tea baggers)
 

mneilmont

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Exactly. I saw a poll somewhere that if Pence was running against HC, she would only be up by 1 point. If Kaine was running against Trump, Kaine would be up by 15 points. Telling.
You have to give the Triple Prick a little leeway and understanding in the matter. He has obvious traits of all three. Like the current president, TP is a wannabe black and does his best to emulate. Also he is excessively braggadocious like The Donald to the point of irritation, but Trump has been extremely successful in raising his kids. And the Triple Prick is a bit envious in Hillary's capacity to be an habitual liar who can be so good that some believe her. He is the biggest liar on this site and few believe him, but she has taken her talents universally.

Is there any reason that he has become totally confused? No hope for anyone who goes out of way to find a computer name that is descriptive of himself in life. And the Triple Prick boy is so confuses that he takes pride in being so stupid.
 
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You have to give the Triple Prick a little leeway and understanding in the matter. He has obvious traits of all three. Like the current president, TP is a wannabe black and does his best to emulate. Also he is excessively braggadocious like The Donald to the point of irritation, but Trump has been extremely successful in raising his kids. And the Triple Prick is a bit envious in Hillary's capacity to be an habitual liar who can be so good that some believe her. He is the biggest liar on this site and few believe him, but she has taken her talents universally.

Is there any reason that he has become totally confused? No hope for anyone who goes out of way to find a computer name that is descriptive of himself in life. And the Triple Prick boy is so confuses that he takes pride in being so stupid.
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