The Orange and Sugar bowl matchups are the worst

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I can remember as far as national appeal. I`m betting Fox has a little prayer meeting with the BCS after this bowl season.
 

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FOX only has to worry about it one more year. ESPN/ABC is going to have the BCS after next year, I think.
 

FQDawg

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I think it will be a pretty good game. The Orange, I agree with you. I'd rather watch paint dry.
 

thatsbaseball

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for the rights to broadcast these prime time games that Hokie-Bearcat matchups just ain`t gonna cut it. Fans can ***** all they want but when ratings suck and the folks writing the checks start bitching something will give.</p>
 

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I don't totally disagree with you but with the rotating nature of the games no bowl or sponsor is likely to have a bad match-up/ratings two years in a row. And three or for good years in a row probably make up for the occasional bad game.

I'd personally like the conference tie ins to the BCS removed in favor of the top 10 teams in the standings getting the spots in the BCS bowls.
 

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FrenchQuarterDawg said:
I don't totally disagree with you but with the rotating nature of the games no bowl or sponsor is likely to have a bad match-up/ratings two years in a row. And three or for good years in a row probably make up for the occasional bad game.

I'd personally like the conference tie ins to the BCS removed in favor of the top 10 teams in the standings getting the spots in the BCS bowls.
They just added a game and moved some of the tie ins around a bit. The ACC and Big East will always play each other in the Orange bowl, SEC vs At Large in Sugar, Big 12 vs At large in Fiesta, and Pac 10 vs Big 10 in rose.
 

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...they should have dropped the conference tie-ins or at least put in overrides for better matchups if available. If I were Bama fan, I'd much rather play Texas, on any field, than play Utah in the Sugar Bowl.

If your team is good enough to be in a BCS bowl, I think it does not matter much where you play. Location concerns fall apart.

The BCS bowls should have a pecking order for the best matchups. But I guar-an-damn-tee you the reason they don't is because that would look like a baby step towards a playoff.

And it would invite post-season controversey. For example if Florida blows out OU and Texas beats Alabama (assuming they played each other), all hell would (continue to) break loose claiming that Texas instead of OU should have been in the NC game.

Its all a system by the man to keep the brother down. They're serving up a national championship game and they're telling us that we're gonna like it regardless. Once that game is set, all other games are steup with different criterior which discourages any second guessing of the NC game.
 

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I'm saying they SHOULD remove the tie-ins. I don't want to see teams in the upper teens playing in BCS bowls even if they are conference champions. If we can't have a playoff, I'd at least like to see a system where if you are in the Top 10 of the final BCS standings (regardless of conference affiliation), you get to play in a BCS bowl.

Then this year we could have had...

National Championship - Oklahoma vs. Florida
Sugar - Alabama vs. Texas - two classic powers
Fiesta - Texas Tech vs. Utah - two up-and-coming teams with innovative offenses
Orange - Ohio State vs. Boise State - old guard vs. relatively new upstart
Rose - USC vs. Penn State - classic Big 10/Pac 10 match-up

I purposefully didn't put together a Utah-Boise State matchup because there is no way the powers that be would allow two undefeated teams to play in a non-national championship game - especially not two teams from non-BCS conferences.
 

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I have a conspiracy theory here- I think that the BCS wants a non-BCS team to beat an SEC team to say that the SEC isn't that good to try to legitimize some of the weaker conferences like the Big 10 and Big East. See Hawaii/UGA last year and Bama/Utah this year. OR it conspiracy theory number 2 says that they are matching a non-BCS team with an SEC team to justify not putting a non-BCS team in or to give them the best chance of having no unbeaten teams.

Take your pick.
 

FQDawg

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I left out the ACC and Big East champs on purpose because they don't fit my "Top 10 in the BCS standings" criteria this year. Next year, if one of their teams (champ or otherwise) were to be ranked in the Top 10 of the final standings, they get a spot in a BCS bowl.

I think it would produce much better match-ups and games, which would produce much bigger audiences - which is supposedly the point.
 

Emanonion

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I read it as "Im glad they changed it" instead of "I wish they would change it" and to be honest, after rereading it, Im not sure how I misread it.

The only problem I have with your matchups is there are 3 teams from one league and I think it needs to be a little more spread out than that. I dont believe that some of the conferences just automatically deserve a tie in, but the Cincy definitely deserves to be in over the 3rd Big 12 team.