The race to a National Seed

DudyDog

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Conceivably there are 7 SEC teams remaining for 3-4 spots. Here are the current
rankings by RPI, with conference and overall records beside each team.
Ranking by RPI
(1) Florida13-5 / 36-6
(3) South Carolina14-4 / 33-8
(4) Texas A&M12-6 / 32-8
(5) Ole Miss10-8 / 31-10
(13) Miss. State10-8 / 27-13
(14) Vandy10-8 / 30-10
(16) LSU10-8 / 27-13
Remaining Schedule and projected outcomes:
I projected the outcomes by using these scenarios:
Home National Seed possible going 3-0 against non National Seed possibles.
Home National Seed possibles going 2-1 against other National Seed possibles.
Visiting National Seed possibles going 3-0 against non National Seed possibles with a losing conference record.
Visiting National Seed possibles going 2-1 against non National Seed possibles with a winning conference record.
(1) FloridaProjected Outcome(3) South CarolinaProjected Outcome
@ South Carolina1-2Florida2-1
@ Tennessee3-0@ Kentucky2-1
Vandy2-1Texas A&M2-1
@ LSU1-2@ Alabama2-1
(5) Texas A&M(6) Ole Miss
@ Arkansas3-0LSU2-1
Vandy2-1@ Georgia3-0
@ South Carolina1-2Kentucky2-1
Ole Miss2-1@ Texas A&M1-2
(12) Miss. State(15) Vandy
@ Alabama2-1Georgia3-0
Missouri3-0@ Texas A&M1-2
@ Auburn3-0@ Florida1-2
Arkansas3-0Auburn3-0
(17) LSU
@ Ole Miss1-2
Arkansas3-0
@ Tennessee3-0
Florida2-1
Every team other than MSU has at least 2 games with other teams comprising the list
of possible National Seeds. Two, Florida and Texas A&M have 3 series with these teams.
With 4 series to go, MSU has positioned themselves to be in the National Seed conversation.
Alabama should be the toughest team left on the schedule. If we can win 2 of 3 there, we
should be in position to realistically take 7 of the last 9 from the three teams remaining.
That would put our conference record at 19-10.
Here are those final conference standings using the outcomes above:
(3) South Carolina22-8
(13) Miss. State21-9
(1) Florida20-10
(4) Texas A&M20-10
(16) LSU19-11
(5) Ole Miss18-12
(14) Vandy18-12
Using the scenarios above means we would finish 11-1 over our last 12 conference games.
Personally, I don't think we can do that with our Sunday play, and I say play because I don't
think it's all pitching on Sundays. The fielders can do their part to stink things up on Sunday,
(here I have visions of that little pop up falling in front of our first baseman while he stands
on the bag for whatever reason).
I can see however, things playing out pretty close to what is projected for the other teams
in contention for a National Seed.
We're in the conversation at least, something I wasn't sure we could do at the beginning
of the season. If we keep our focus, I believe we can get one of those National seeds.
Another thing that I think will play into who is selected and who is not is going to be
how teams play in the SEC tourney. I believe the committee will take the regular
season resume and let the results in the SEC tourney go into who might get in and
who they will leave out.
If two teams are neck and neck going into the tourney and one goes 0-2 while the other
goes 2-2, I think that might tip the scales for that team.
So I believe we'll have to wait it out until after the tourney before we know anything for certain.
Go Dog's!

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Raiderdawg.sixpack

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I've posted this before...

Over the past 5 years, national seeds win on avg. 44.7 +/- 3.2 games. (Average record is ~45-13). Only 1 national seed has won less than 40 games & only 1 national seed lost 20+ games (Florida in 2014).

A regional host typically has 40.65 +/- 3 wins (average record is ~41 - 17). There have been a few outliers, both UCLA and Cal St. - Fullerton, host with 33 wins. I think that has to do with getting more west coast regional hosts than earning it.

You have to remember, last year Texas A&M went 44-11 & Vandy went 41-19, no national seed. The year before, South Carolina went 41-16, Ole Miss went 40-18, and Vandy went 40-18, no-national seed.

I think our magic number is 38 wins to host a regional. Unless we go on a major tear, I think we are on the outside looking in at the national seeds.
 

MSUDC11

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My conservative projection for our last 14 games has us going 9-5. That would put us at 36-18. No way we don't host with that resume'.

One thing you aren't considering is that other teams in national seed contention aren't exactly lighting the world on fire.

Florida, A&M, and Miami are safely in the Top 8. Florida State and South Carolina probably are at the current moment (even though I'm iffy on SC. They have beaten absolutely no one aside from Ole Miss).

After that? Look at what other teams in contention did this week:

LSU lost 2/3 to us at home
Texas Tech lost 2/3 to Texas, who is terrible
Vandy lost 2/3 to Tennessee
TCU lost 2/3 to Oklahoma State
UCSB lost 2/3 to Cal Poly
Louisville lost 2/3 to Boston College

We have the three most impressive series wins in college baseball. Ole Miss was a great RPI series win, and Georgia is now in the Top 30. We have one bad loss, as even Oral Roberts is in the 70-80 range.

If we win our remaining series (at least one sweep would help), common sense says that the only thing keeping us from a national seed is a total screw job by the committee.
 

MSUDC11

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It's our highest RPI game remaining, so a win would be very nice. But a loss doesn't hurt us either.
 

Bulldogg31

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This year may be different. Kyle Petersen just tweeted that the West region isn't worthy of a single national seed this season, and they may not even host a regional out there. Only chance right now is if committee just wants a geographic balance with host sites.
 

57stratdawg

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This year appears to be a bit of an outlier though. There's really only one team west of Texas in the national seed discussion except UCSB and they got swept this weekend. The entire Pac12 looks bad, I think 75% of the conference is within 2 conference games.


We have 6 home games left. We need at least 4. Ideally 5. I think 37 regular season wins locks us in to a national seed.
 
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I always considered 40 wins to be the comfortable level for an SEC team to host. It's definitely a weird year, but I just can't see us getting a national seed with 37-38 wins. I'll believe it when I see it.