The Real Story About Towles?

[mrhotdice]

I wonder what's the real story.. Not many senior to be QBs leave for one year someplace else simply because he was replaced by another QB who lost both games he started. Especially when he has started for so many games.

This seems to me to be a case were the coaches stuck with him even though the players did not.

UK needs a duel QB now so go get one.

Anyone have any good ideas?

 

[JHB4UK]

replaced by another QB who lost both games he started.

Real story? We can guess. Divided locker room, realized over 1/2 of the offense wanted their best buddie/recruiting class member to be starter instead of an old leftover from the Joker era guy. And by the end of the season Pat had lost the coaching staff as well, or the coaches surrendered to the mutiny of the players who dogged it to make Pat look bad to get Barker the job.

Best of luck to Patrick, hate that it went this badly for him here, hope he blows up wherever he goes next season

 

[RealCat41]

I'm a little confused. Barker started two games. He won one and lost one.

So are you looking for a story with Towles or a list of duel threat QB's?

 

[hoopsdave]

Actually it is just a smart decision by PT. He is on a roster that will require him to fight for a starting roll and has a possibility of not playing his senior year. Best case, he has to win the starting role again and look over his shoulder.
He can now pick his team based on known roster slots and "guarantee" his role on a team, and just maybe rekindle a shot at the next level.
It is the correct decision for him and I wish him well.

 

[Mr Schwump]

I wonder what's the real story.. Not many senior to be QBs leave for one year someplace else simply because he was replaced by another QB who lost both games he started. Especially when he has started for so many games.

This seems to me to be a case were the coaches stuck with him even though the players did not.

UK needs a duel QB now so go get one.

Anyone have any good ideas?

Happens every year. Actually is becoming more common. He's gone which satisfies a lot of people's desires, let him rest in peace.

 

[uk_fan_in_tn]

This happens all the time. Russell Wilson probably the most well known example.

 

[akaukswoosh]

This happens all the time. Russell Wilson probably the most well known example.

Yep

 

[CB3UK]

Actually it is just a smart decision by PT. He is on a roster that will require him to fight for a starting roll and has a possibility of not playing his senior year. Best case, he has to win the starting role again and look over his shoulder.
He can now pick his team based on known roster slots and "guarantee" his role on a team, and just maybe rekindle a shot at the next level.
It is the correct decision for him and I wish him well.

Bingo.

 

[Chuckinden]

Real story? We can guess. Divided locker room, realized over 1/2 of the offense wanted their best buddie/recruiting class member to be starter instead of an old leftover from the Joker era guy. And by the end of the season Pat had lost the coaching staff as well, or the coaches surrendered to the mutiny of the players who dogged it to make Pat look bad to get Barker the job.

Best of luck to Patrick, hate that it went this badly for him here, hope he blows up wherever he goes next season

It is only a guess without someone with true "inside" info, but this is what I feel too. I wish Towles all the luck in the world. He will be our Senator and/or Governor some day.

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

The old saying, QBs are born to transfer...

 

[mrhotdice]

The old saying, QBs are born to transfer...

Thanks guys, I guess it's best for him so good luck to him.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

I wonder what's the real story.. Not many senior to be QBs leave for one year someplace else simply because he was replaced by another QB who lost both games he started. Especially when he has started for so many games.

This seems to me to be a case were the coaches stuck with him even though the players did not.

UK needs a duel QB now so go get one.

Anyone have any good ideas?

I stopped reading when you said Barker lost both games he started.

 

[murpack]

PT went through three different offensive coordinators the four years he was here. That had to retard his progress somewhat.

 

[Birdseat]

I wonder what's the real story.. Not many senior to be QBs leave for one year someplace else simply because he was replaced by another QB who lost both games he started. Especially when he has started for so many games.

This seems to me to be a case were the coaches stuck with him even though the players did not.

UK needs a duel QB now so go get one.

Anyone have any good ideas?

He graduates in December. He can go either continue to take some generic classess and play at uk or he can go work on a Master's Degree and play elsewhere.

As someone else said, he can also fight for the starting position or pick a location in need of a QB.

As a senior, the future does not look bright staying at uk.

 

[Tskware]

Jake Ruddock was Iowa's starting QB in 2014, started every game for Michigan in 2015. I think it is a sorry *** rule, but it is now the new norm in college football.

 

[Saguaro Cat]

Max Smith did it last year. From uk.

 

[blugrazz]

Jake Ruddock was Iowa's starting QB in 2014, started every game for Michigan in 2015. I think it is a sorry *** rule, but it is now the new norm in college football.

Its only a sorry *** rule if you emphasize the athlete portion of "student-athlete" but if you emphasize the student portion than its a rightful and deserving rule of anyone who finishes their degree in less time than their athletic eligibility. It probably happens more often in non-revenue sports yet no-one complains. Why shouldn't he be afforded the opportunity to diversify his education by attending another university. Its not like he is going to have a long and prosperous NFL career.

 

[BlueRaider22]

Actually it is just a smart decision by PT. He is on a roster that will require him to fight for a starting roll and has a possibility of not playing his senior year. Best case, he has to win the starting role again and look over his shoulder.
He can now pick his team based on known roster slots and "guarantee" his role on a team, and just maybe rekindle a shot at the next level.
It is the correct decision for him and I wish him well.

Moreover, he can pick a school that runs an offense that may suit him better.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

Hope for the best for him but he usually ends long drives the same way like he did sat.

 

[Los Gatos]

Yes, but I'll bet a very low percentage of those who transfer never complete the masters degree program at the second school. They just use the graduate rule as a loop-hole in the transfer rules.

Don't have any data to back this up, just seems likely.

 

[BlueRaider22]

PT went through three different offensive coordinators the four years he was here. That had to retard his progress somewhat.

And no supporting cast.....

 

[John Henry]

If I were Pat I would go. Best option because he will excell in a real football program

 

[Glenn Fohr]

Best of luck to him. Good kid, represented the university well with class.

 

[Birdseat]

Yes, but I'll bet a very low percentage of those who transfer never complete the masters degree program at the second school. They just use the graduate rule as a loop-hole in the transfer rules.

Don't have any data to back this up, just seems likely.

Not sure why that matters. It becomes no different than a a STUDENT-athlete that fails to graduate after year 1, 2, 3, or 4. And for the school losing the player, it is actually a benefit in that they help the APR (as opposed to the players who never graduate).

 

[truebluewildcat_rivals34254]

.Folks, a kentucky boy born and bred uk fan who was mentored by a former wildcat, who's grandfather was a state senator...doesn't just walk away from the team and program he loves because of a little competition...

he won the job once because he was the best option...and he'd win it again for the same reason...

players don't run from competition...they run from dumpster fires...

if he sensed things were going to improve and that there was some hope for next season...he'd stay, work his tail off and win the job again...

this is a fairly big indictment on the state of the program...

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

PT went through three different offensive coordinators the four years he was here. That had to retard his progress somewhat.

And now he will have another OC. Hope it works out for him.

 

[Krisys]

He knew that the coaching staff was gonna cave to the little ***** boys like stone hands baker. They wanted their buddy Barker in and were gonna make damn sure they got it.

 

[Beatle Bum]

I wonder what's the real story.. Not many senior to be QBs leave for one year someplace else simply because he was replaced by another QB who lost both games he started. Especially when he has started for so many games.

This seems to me to be a case were the coaches stuck with him even though the players did not.

UK needs a duel QB now so go get one.

Anyone have any good ideas?

Seriously? Do you know who started the season as FSU's QB? Oregon's QB? Do you know the QB for the Seattle Seahawks?

 

[Beatle Bum]

Real story? We can guess. Divided locker room, realized over 1/2 of the offense wanted their best buddie/recruiting class member to be starter instead of an old leftover from the Joker era guy. And by the end of the season Pat had lost the coaching staff as well, or the coaches surrendered to the mutiny of the players who dogged it to make Pat look bad to get Barker the job.

Best of luck to Patrick, hate that it went this badly for him here, hope he blows up wherever he goes next season

Again, this is a head shaker. Stoops stuck with Towles through Interception after interception. Does anyone really think he lost the job because people wanted their buddy to get the job?

 

[vhcat70]

Jake Ruddock was Iowa's starting QB in 2014, started every game for Michigan in 2015. I think it is a sorry *** rule, but it is now the new norm in college football.

Only lawyers would think that way. PT fulfilled his four year commitment to UK. Net, I have no problem with it. Besides, coaches switch jobs & can coach at the new school the next week. See no reason players can't have some options too.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Only lawyers would think that way. PT fulfilled his four year commitment to UK. Net, I have no problem with it. Besides, coaches switch jobs & can coach at the new school the next week. See no reason players can't have some options too.

I agree.

The rule is a good one. He graduates and can go play someplace and have a chance at being noticed again by the NFL. His year was so bad, that overcoming that in the eyes of the NFL, fans, and coaches was going to be difficult.

Starting in a different offense may give him a boost and redeem him for scouts. Smart move for Patrick. Hope the best for him.

 

[Kybluedude]

Wish him the best. Good kid. Best for both parties. We need a qb to build with over a couple years and he needs a chance with one year to try and get a shot. If Jeff Brohm sticks at WKU that system could work for Patrick. They are losing their QB.

 

[JHB4UK]

Yes, but I'll bet a very low percentage of those who transfer never complete the masters degree program at the second school. They just use the graduate rule as a loop-hole in the transfer rules.

Don't have any data to back this up, just seems likely.

We are talking about football playing students who actually earn real degrees in less than 4 years. I think those are the types of kids who take academic success a lot more seriously than you are assuming.

Why would anyone hate this rule? The one time a college kid has the power and ability to step away from the programs treating them like slaves. What is garbage is the making kids sit out a year, blocking their school choices if they want to leave - while coaches can be fired or quit and pick up a new job in a new location with no restrictions a day later.

 

[frost1]

Pat transferring is best for him & UK. If he goes to Duke, David Cutcliff , Sp, is a good QB Coach.. I wish him the best. Just wasn't right fit at UK.

 

[Gabewcat]

PT can now pick an offense that is suited to his talents. He will go to a school that has a pro style offense and get away from this trash fire at UK. The NFL will take notice next year. Meanwhile, he will leave his heart at the ball of confusion that is UK. I laugh at all the posters that were clamoring for Barker and now not a peep out of them after his 7-20 performance vs Louisville.

 

[Dallas-Wild]

Really hope PT gets into a proven winning system with great coaching and plays great!

Great young man who loves UK.

 

[Soupbean]

Looks like a Jeff Driskoll deal to me. Jeff struggled mightily and UF but had a pretty good senior year in Louisiana. Looked much more comfortable with the pressure off. Might be the best thing for him

 

[Ajax10]

.Folks, a kentucky boy born and bred uk fan who was mentored by a former wildcat, who's grandfather was a state senator...doesn't just walk away from the team and program he loves because of a little competition...

he won the job once because he was the best option...and he'd win it again for the same reason...

players don't run from competition...they run from dumpster fires...

if he sensed things were going to improve and that there was some hope for next season...he'd stay, work his tail off and win the job again...

this is a fairly big indictment on the state of the program...

Dead on. He left the day after a horrible loss. The offensive play calling, line protection and receiver routes did nothing to help him or any other QB (or offense for that matter) I actually agree that it is an indictment of the coaches. He saw nothing in the future for him here.

 

[Glenn Fohr]

I wish him well. Gave his heart and soul here.